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> berkeley223 Wrote:
> > Remember he looked god-awful in the 1st Q of the
> > preseason game---how soon we forget....
> Seriously? The first quarter of the first
> pre-season game? If that's all you've got, then,
> I'm not worried.
> This is the problem with Henne haters - no sense
> of context. The performance of a QB in the first
> quarter of the first preseason game almost always
> has NOTHING to do with the QB.
Ghoti, you are too smart for such a ridiculous comment. No I am not basing my opinion of henne on 1 Q of 1 preseason game. How about his 3 seasons as the phins QB?
context. I was responding to people who were talking "franchise tag" and long term agreement" based on his last 2 preseason games; I was pointing out the absurdity of that by referencing the preseason as well. these posts would be quite long if each one had to include every background fact of a player's career in order to make a point.
I don't hold the fact that he sat on the bench as a rookie against him---other than it was an additional year of sitting and learning so he should have been ahead of the curve when he started to play. Everyone compares him to sanchez, but he started as a rookie and they are basically the same statistically the first few years. but again it's not all stats with henne--he can make some good plays but it is the horrible ones, and the ineptitude with the game on the line, that are the problems. I will be the first to happily admit I was wrong about him should he hopefully have a great season. But I think we'd all have to say that would be a pleasant surprise at this point given his *career* to this point.
ghotirule: “I get it. Fans are angry and looking for someone to blame.”
No, you absolutely DON’T GET IT.
Stop the incessant BS lane ass excuses for the shit box QB situation we’ve been suffering with. Really. Who the ***k are you not going to hold accountable except Henne?
Some people actually know what a good QB looks like and how he performs on the field. To this point Henne is NOT a good QB by any barometer.
Seriously, cut the crap. Once again, the kid is utterly worthless on the trade market. He has inspired ZERO confidence around the league. His career in Miami has been a huge disappointment SO FAR.
Like I said: You don’t get it. No one “hates” the kid. That’s like juvenile crap. But a lot of us don’t care for his game whatsoever.
Moving forward, let’s see week by week what Henne is all about. But don’t try to sell me how “underrated” and/or “underappreciated” Henne has been. And that his game has been “really pretty decent.” Barf! His game has stunk like a dead squirrel rotting on the interstate for 5 days.
I think this response is quite uncalled for. We know how you feel, but the profanity is completely unnecessary. In fact, you actually proved ghotirule's point about being angry. If that's not an angry post, then I don't know what is.
> You and your kind don’t seem to get it. Being a
> really good QB in the NFL is all about being
> CLUTCH under pressure – and thus far Chad Henne
> has proved to wilt under pressure and make bad
> decisions, bad throws, and just plain
> old-fashioned stupid mistakes.
> There are a number of peeps around here who want
> to blame the OC and the associated crew for the
> absolutely INEPT offense this team presented last
> year. Well, I’m sure there’s a degree of
> validity to that – but to ignore the PROVEN
> HISTORY of some (such as Henning who has developed
> NFL QB’s such as Chad Pennington) while giving a
> free “get out of jail card” to Henne is simply
> asinine. It’s the players who play the game.
> But beyond, people want to blame the OL, the
> WR’s, the TE et cetera as opposed to readily
> acknowledging the simple FACT that the QB is where
> the responsibility starts on the offense. And the
> simple reason WHY Henne was shackled (per se) is
> because the coaches (Sparano included - because
> he’s in charge of the product on the field)
> didn’t TRUST Henne to execute – so they won 14
> games out of his 28 DISPITE THE FACT Henne was
> seriously underperforming (as Parcells told
> everyone last fall).
> But lo and behold, you want to give Henne credit
> for “winning” 14 games. That’s such a joke
> it’s utterly laughable. Once again – we won
> games despite the fact we had a dysfunctional QB.
> BTW did you see the suck QB game last year against
> the Jets? I mean if you could possibly credit
> Henne with that win you must be related! Or how
> about the loaf of bread he threw out of the end
> zone in the general direction towards a wide open
> Fasano? Or when he missed Hartline wide open down
> the sidelines (beyond the D by 10+ yards) and the
> way he single-handedly gave the Pats a win by
> choking in a HUGE WAY on MNF or… I mean it gets
> totally absurd really fast. Henne has SUCKED so
> far and I see ZERO evidence to suddenly believe
> all his suckiness was somehow an illusion.
> I say stop blaming everyone else on the TEAM for
> Henne’s obvious failures. It’s obvious to
> everyone else all around the country the Dolphins
> BIGGEST problem was/is at QB. Yea, we don’t have
> the best OL. And yea our WR’s may not be the
> best in the league. And whatever else – but the
> biggest disappoint around here (by a country mile)
> has been Henne.
> Like I said, he produces CLUTCH WINS game in and
> game out – I’ll be happy to admit how wrong I
> was in ragging on the kid. But you watch what
> Billygoat has in store week 1. That game will tell
> everyone very clearly how far Henne has
> “progressed.” Or, if he continues to REGRESS
> when it matters.
> I’ll check back with you then.
Good points.....What a way to start the season. Against a super talented/strong team led by an elite QB and coach. I wish them luck but I am pretty certain I know (as you all do) the outcome of this one.
> and the
> way he single-handedly gave the Pats a win by
> choking in a HUGE WAY on MNF
And there you go, making it obvious that it's really a "blame everything on Henne" agenda, ignoring reality. He single-handedly gave the Pats a win on MNF. Really? So, that was him allowing a 103 yard kickoff return for a TD? And that was him missing those blocks on the blocked punt and the blocked FG? The Pats scored more than half their points thanks to what was considered maybe the worst special teams performance in NFL history. And yet, Chad Henne single-handedly gave the Pats the win. Sure he did.