JoeFootball Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is anyone buying the fact that Chip Kelley is > holding on to Sam Bradford to run his read-option, > offense? @ 13 mil for one year? > > I can't quite figure it out but.... > > I think he already has a deal in place to trade > Bradford and his #20 to move up to #2. That was my thou
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JoeFootball Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How many here would have made this deal? > > Miami gives up a 2nd round pick and Mike Pouncey > for Jimmy Graham. > > (We also have to pay him 8 mil this year) > > (Seattle gave up #31 but got back a 4th rounder) Mortenson was on The Herd this morning and said the Dolphins almos
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JoeFootball Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > How many here would have made this deal? > > Miami gives up a 2nd round pick and Mike Pouncey > for Jimmy Graham. > > (We also have to pay him 8 mil this year) > > (Seattle gave up #31 but got back a 4th rounder) I would
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JoeFootball Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And this just proves you are wrong about Clay.... > > @OmarKelly > > "@jamesandretti: do you think it was a mistake to > not franchise Clay for an extra $1M or do they not > care if he comes back?"» not a mistake > > Omar agrees with you. Hahaha
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JoeFootball Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > THE Truth Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > JoeFootball Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > > > > > > That does nothing for long term price. Soliai > > and &g
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JoeFootball Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > That does nothing for long term price. Soliai and > Starks were both franchised and ended up signing > for much less the year after. Soliai got 12.5 mil > on franchise tag and then got 6 mil per year the > following year. The only reason we got Soliai cheap was let him walk the next y
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JoeFootball Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > THE Truth Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Clays not worth the franchise tag and giving it > to > > him changes the starting point for your > > negotiations from 6m a year with to 8.5m a year, > > > and it doubles the guaranteed mon
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samsam3738 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Armando Salguero retweeted > Vic Carucci ?@viccarucci 32m32 minutes ago > The #Bills are looking to structure strongest > possible offer sheet for #Dolphins TE Charles > Clay. #Browns also interested. They are going to have to overwhelm him with guaranteed money and annual salary if he's seriou
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dolphaholic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ian Rapoport ?@RapSheet 45s45 seconds ago > Thought Jared Odrick was getting $7M per year from > #Jaguars. It’s actually $8.5M per year with $22M > guaranteed. Wow. Wonder how much was guaranteed. He did very well.
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Clays not worth the franchise tag and giving it to him changes the starting point for your negotiations from 6m a year with to 8.5m a year, and it doubles the guaranteed money you have to give him. If you are going to throw huge money at Suh and re-sign guys like rt17 and pouncey you are going to have to stick to your price points on other players.
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JoeFootball Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Makes sense.....Shelby for a second round pick, > Clay for free. Clay wasn't eligible for the 2nd round tender. It's designed to be used on players who were UFA's and have more than 3 years of service but aren't eligible eligible to be a UFA.
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If Hickey gets anything for either of these guys he deserves a lifetime contract.
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Crowder52 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I have heard that he leads by example by being the > hardest working guy in the lockerroom... He sets > an example for how hard and dedicated one should > work towards their craft. But his personality is > more of an introvert/quiet off the field... I > will take the lead by example guy any day ov
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samsam3738 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > PhinsPhocus.com retweeted > Matty I ?@TheMattyI 14m14 minutes ago > Many speculating that if Dolphins signed Brandon > Graham they would turn around and trade Dion > Jordan. On the surface, makes a lot of sense. > > > Dion Jordan for a low first? High second? I'd trade him to Phil
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I've heard that from other people. Nothing wrong with it.
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Love it. Was really high on him coming out of college. Like with wr's... You can Never have to many pass rushers. If we get him it could mean Jordan gets moved to olb.
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jsm08 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > this is odrick's chance at a long term deal. not > sure why he'd want to take a 2 yr deal. The only way you get him to look at a deal like that is if you guarantee all of it, and even then you are right...he's going to get more on a longer term deal.
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samsam3738 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > we already cut 2 receivers and if clay isnt > signed..3..Or even 4 if wallace goes...thats about > 80 percent of tannehills targets last year... > > What does that say about consistency...????? > > > If all of them go.... > > > we definetely going to draft a receiver in th
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I'm not opposed to bringing Starks back if he takes a big pay cut down to say $2m a year. I doubt he will. Right now I'm figuring we cut him and use his money to sign a run stuffer like Dan Williams to play next to Suh. Suh, Williams, Mitchell, Johnson, Francis/Coleman/Rookie should be just fine.
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Crowder52 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > THE Truth Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > Makes sense. > > > > You jam all the guaranteed money into the first > 3 > > years when you have the cap space to deal with > > it. > > > > 10 this year, 25 and 25.
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JoeFootball Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Actually, if a team is serious about keeping a > player that they can't come to terms with, then > the transition tag makes perfect sense. > > If you are truly serious about keeping that player > it gives you the right to match whatever contract > he signs. > > He can't leave unless
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Crowder52 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think it is moot point I don't buy that the > Bills are going to offer him a huge deal... They > have to pay Hughes, they need a QB and they just > gave Mccoy a new deal... They also are supposedly targeting Iupati who wants 9-10m a year.
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JoeFootball Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That's why DE is a big need in the draft. We could > get a pass rusher in 1 and a WR in two. Lots of > depth at WR. DE represents a lot of value. Maybe > 2nd to only QB. > > If Fowler, Beasley, Ray and Gregory are gone by > 14, we could trade down and take a shot at > Armstead or Dupree.
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captkoi Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JoeFootball Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Lose Clay and the Dolphins have no choice but > to > > land that stud WR in round 1. Trade up is more > > likely now. > > > > We also have to beef up o-line and find a > better > &g
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Crowder52 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes Washington and Dallas had their cap reduced in > future years due to overspending during the "non > cap" year as it related to the old CBA issues... > Which is why I think it is not just a financial > penalty like baseball or basketball... It is a > little unclear and I haven't been a
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berkeley223 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > well first of all I am sure whatever deal that was > signed in excess of the cap would be void. so it's > not like the team could benefit from doing that. > there is some precedent for penalities for salary > cap violations, a few years ago dallas and > washington committed some violation in the
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I think they can fine you, take picks away, and take cap space away. I believe San Francisco lost a pick years ago for fudging the numbers. And I think Dallas and Washington had to absorb cap penalties 2 years ago for being over at certain times.
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Crowder52 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JoeFootball Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Keep Wake. Trade up for Fowler, trade Vernon. > > > I agree with the idea of trading Vernon if the > deal is right... We aren't going to be able to > keep him after next year anyways.. It all depend
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jlyell13 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wake could be done, he disappeared in the second > half. Better for as team that is close > > You mean like The Miami Dolphins? The chance to trade Wake has come and gone. You won't get fair value for him at this point. He's worth more on the field than the 4th round pick we might get for him
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dolphaholic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Chris Mortensen?@mortreport·13m13 minutes ago > Suh also will get $60 million in first 3 years of > 6-year contract, based on parameters set between > #Dolphins and Suh's agent, Jimmy Sexton. Makes sense. You jam all the guaranteed money into the first 3 years when you have the cap space to
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