JoeFootball Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not happening unless Clay walks. Not happening, period. In order to secure White you have to move up to #3 ahead of the Raiders. We don't have the ammo for that.
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Wallace and a 7th for a 5th? YUCK...
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Wallace and a 7th to Minny for a 5th??? Should have just kept him...boooo
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jsm08 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That didn't seem to be the case when you guys were > making your case for Rex in Miami. > > All the blame went to the gm. Not from me. I live in NY. I've heard all the stories about who made the personnel calls on that team.
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jsm08 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Look at the jets drafts under tannenbaum. you > guys are dreaming if you think he's trading down. > > his trend is quality over quantity. unfortunately > his quality isn't all that. > > wallace is gone. we'll trade up for white. Tannebaum had little control over the draft in NY. 99% of
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mizzou15 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Right I got him at 2b on my draft card. Im trading > down from 14th picking up an extra 2nd. that might > be a reach but he is a player I would want: > > Draft – Trade down 1 > 1 McKinney LB MS St > 2 Ajayi RB Boise > 2b Tomlinson G Duke > 4 Finney C K State > 5 Trail DE Norfo
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dolfanmark Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > On Twitter: > Ian Wharton @NFLFilmStudy · 32m 32 minutes ago > Stills isn’t as fast as Mike Wallace, but he is > just as dangerous deep. He tracks the ball and > fights for it much better than Wallace > > > > If Miami re-signs Clay, Stills is clearly the > Wallace replaceme
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mizzou15 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Right i'm thinking Tomlinson(Duke) in rnd 3. He > can come in press the starters all will be better > for the competition. The loser should improve the > bench. I would also try Tomlinson at center or > bring in one to fight for Pouncey's position. We > have to pay Tannehill and if we get a rookie
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Crowder52 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JoeFootball Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Crowder52 Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > so we are free and clean on > > > him... > > > > Except for the 4.2 mil w
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JoeFootball Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yeah..I don't get what the debate is about. Don't > they have to submit an offer and we can match? > They can't just keep re-working the offer can > they? He has to sign an offer. They can keep negotiating until he does.
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JoeFootball Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > @ArmandoSalguero > > Dolphins and Bills trading offers over Charles > Clay. Pretty interesting. > > > Whatever that means... Not sure why we'd be in a bidding war. Give them a fair offer then let the bills sign him if they offer more. That or tell the bills we won't match for a d
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JoeFootball Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > @ArmandoSalguero > > Dolphins and Bills trading offers over Charles > Clay. Pretty interesting. > > > Whatever that means... Not sure why we'd be in a bidding war. Give them a fair offer then let the bills sign him if they offer more. That or tell the bills we won't match for a d
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Crowder52 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It was brilliant for the simple fact we got rid of > Ellerbe and his contract... I agree. We probably could have gotten Stills for a 4th straight up. I'd bet that the inclusion of Ellerbe's disastrous contract up the cost on our side. Overall, I like the deal a lot. We can get back a 3rd by trading do
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JoeFootball Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > THE Truth Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I love this trade. > > > > NFL ready starting speed WR for a 3rd at NFL > > minimum salary for 2 years. > > > > Also get out from under the Ellerbe contract... > > > >
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I love this trade. NFL ready starting speed WR for a 3rd at NFL minimum salary for 2 years. Also get out from under the Ellerbe contract... What's not to like? Next call is to the raiders..."you guys have a ton of cap space you have to spend and are striking out in free agency...we'll give you Wallace for a 2nd?"
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dolphaholic Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ran a 4.38 at the combine a few years back. > Wallaces replacement next year? Hartline's replacement this year. If this a 4th or lower its a steal.
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I heard Philbin was the driving force behind signing Cameron.
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If Ellerbe is staying then we aren't drafting a LB unless some guy drops two rounds and he's the best player on our board by a country mile. Frankly, I'm ok with this. I want to see what I have in Tripp and McCain before I invest heavily in drafting a LB. I know Misi gets a bad rap, but if we use him or even ellerbe at MLB they will look much better this year with Suh in front of them.
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JoeFootball Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > With his history of violence AND the laziness > rumors....chances are pretty good he isn't even on > our board. Could be. I don't have access to the character assessments and background checks, so I'm not going to make judgments based rumors. My understanding of the violence issue was that he shov
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JoeFootball Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am off DGB for anything earlier than a 2nd. > Questions about work ethic and laziness....scary. Late 1st, early 2nd is the same thing to me. If we traded down to the 25-32 range, I'm fine with taking a guy like DGB there. The extra 2nd round pick mitigates the risk. It allows me to double down with
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JoeFootball Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 1 TB: Jameis Winston, QB > 2 Ten: Leonard Williams, DT > 3 Jax: Dante Fowler, DE > 4 Oak: Amari Cooper, WR > 5 Was: Vic Beasley, DE > 6 NYJ: Randy Gregory, OLB > 7 Chi: Shane Ray, DE > 8 Atl: Brandon Scherff, OT > 9 NYG: Dan Shelton, NT > 10 StL: Kevin White, WR > 11 Mi
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JoeFootball Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > 2 years, 15 mil for JC. It all depends on the guaranteed money. If its $2m-5m then we can cut him next year with no cap hit and the deal can be structured with $5 mill this year and $10m next.
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Crowder52 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for the explanation Truth.. So basically > the full dead money is still there it just pushes > a portion of it off till the next year.. So it > isn't really a savings so to speak... Only a > savings that year and an increase the following > year... Right. I'm not sure if its a 50/50
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In a nutshell: When you cut a guy the remaining portion of his upfront money (the portion of his guaranteed money you gave him upfront so its impact could be spread over the life of the contract) is accelerated to the year you cut him. So if you cut a guy in year 3 of a 5 year deal you have the prorated portion of the upfront money for years 3, 4 and 5 all accounted for in year 3. If you
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Base salary: 2015: $985,000 (guaranteed) 2016: $23.5 million (guaranteed) 2017: $10 million (guaranteed) 2018: $17 million (non-guaranteed) 2019: $19 million (non-guaranteed) 2020: $8.36 million (non-guaranteed) Cap hit: 2015: $6.1 million 2016: $28.6 million 2017: $15.1 million 2018: $22.1 million 2019: $24.1 million 2020: $8.36 million
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