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In the Eyes of a Veteran QB
Posted by: dres9711 ()
Date: May 01, 2011 10:54AM

The new additions to the Dolphins' offense via the draft will be eye catching to a veteran QB. If I'm any QB on the move this off-season Miami looks like an attractive destination. Heres why:

The offensive line will be one of the best in the league. With Jake Long covering the blindside in addition to Pouncey, Incognito and Carey there will be no gripes about QB protection or run blocking.

Brandon Marshall and Co. Regardless of last year's production, Brandon Marshall is a monster and you have D. Bess, one of the best slot WR in the league, at your disposal.

If I am Carson Palmer, McNabb, Orton or whoever I say to myself: Miami is an attractive option.

Agreed?

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Re: In the Eyes of a Veteran QB
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: May 01, 2011 11:37AM

Except the problem is the lack of capable free agents...those guys u mentioned have no say in the matter as they would have to be traded.

There are no Drew Brees type free agents this year...

Marc Bulger or Matt Hasselbeck....Seneca Wallace...Billy Volek...John Kitna...

Not exactly exciting or even much competition for Henne.

We are going to have to give up 2012 draft picks for Flynn or Palmer IMO

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Re: In the Eyes of a Veteran QB
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: May 01, 2011 01:33PM

Bulger, Hasselbeck, Volek are proven and better than Henne, but only have 1-2 years. Last year henne sucked , and could not do anything in the red zone. Hopefully they give Thigpen a look or move him for a Matt Flynn or Orton. Buffalo was interested last year

Did anyone hear the discussion of John beck being the starter in Washington?

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Re: In the Eyes of a Veteran QB
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: May 01, 2011 01:47PM

Vince Young

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Re: In the Eyes of a Veteran QB
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: May 01, 2011 01:53PM

how can you say with a straight face that orton or flynn could be had in a trade for thigpen?

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Re: In the Eyes of a Veteran QB
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 02, 2011 07:56AM

All retreads.

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Re: In the Eyes of a Veteran QB
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: May 02, 2011 08:20AM

If we want a one year stopgap player then Hasselbeck is the best choice.

Flynn would be OK based only upon what we saw last year when he got to play....but he'd be far from a certainty.

Palmer's attitude sucks.

McNabb...no freaking way.

Kolb...if we think he's our guy going forward then we should do it...but IMHO the price tag is simply too high.

Young...no freaking way.

Bulger...no.

Volek...no.

Kitna...no.

Wallace...no.

And as far as John Beck goes, I hope he steps up and proves everyone wrong. I think and have always thought he got shafted by short sighted fans and coaches here in Miami.

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Re: In the Eyes of a Veteran QB
Posted by: Mia1 ()
Date: May 02, 2011 08:26AM

Maybe its a ploy to start my man Thigpen. YEAHHHHHHHHeye popping smiley

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Re: In the Eyes of a Veteran QB
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 02, 2011 08:57AM

Ken, I forgot about Palmer.

I'd be interested what the attitude problem is.

If his attitude is that he wants to call his own plays on the field and ignore what the coaching staff says then that would be a GOOD THING in terms of our team.

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Re: In the Eyes of a Veteran QB
Posted by: dres9711 ()
Date: May 02, 2011 09:07AM

The QB might have a say depending on their contract (aka a no trade clause).

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Re: In the Eyes of a Veteran QB
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: May 02, 2011 09:11AM

I think we have to go on the assumption that Henne will be penciled in (again) as the starter. MAYBE Thigpen will get a legit opportunity to win the starting job, but the vet we sign will probably be just insurance in case something happens to the other 2. With that in mind, Billy Volek may be the best choice.

On the other hand, since we weren't willing to gamble on a QB in the draft, I wouldn't mind giving Vince Young a shot. Who knows? New coach and team...may change him?

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Re: In the Eyes of a Veteran QB
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: May 02, 2011 09:35AM

The problem I have with all the qbs outside of orton and quinn are....

Kolb....choked when handed the starting spot

Volek....choked in limited action...over rated people thinking he was next Schaub

Young...immature man child cry baby

Bulger...stunk in last few years as starter but had a terrible line and got killed

Hasselbeck.....fragile...major back problems....eroding skills

McNabb....has he lost his heart ?

Wallace....average player can't win games

Palmer...see McNabb

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Re: In the Eyes of a Veteran QB
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 02, 2011 10:31AM

Monte, the problem is that you don't sign a Vet if you have confidence in Thiggy or even if you think he is to be given a fair chance to win the job.

If Thiggy is your backup in the sense of the above, you get an undrafted rookie QB.

But if you bring in Palmer, Thiggy is pretty much toast.

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Re: In the Eyes of a Veteran QB
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 02, 2011 10:36AM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> how can you say with a straight face that orton or
> flynn could be had in a trade for thigpen?

I would trade thigpen for some tree beans. Then grow a tree. The tree would probably be a better qb than thigpen. Please.

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Re: In the Eyes of a Veteran QB
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: May 02, 2011 02:44PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Monte, the problem is that you don't sign a Vet if
> you have confidence in Thiggy or even if you think
> he is to be given a fair chance to win the job.
>
> If Thiggy is your backup in the sense of the
> above, you get an undrafted rookie QB.
>
> But if you bring in Palmer, Thiggy is pretty much
> toast.

We need 3 QBs. Pennington is out..and that other guy, can't remember his name, won't make it out of the lockerroom in training camp.

Thiggy isn't exactly an experienced vet. He's not going to mentor another QB. He doesn't have experience to know how to win a close game down the stretch. That's why I see us keeping Thiggy and Henne at this point and grabbing a vet.

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