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The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 01, 2011 10:26AM


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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: ghotirule ()
Date: May 01, 2011 10:32AM


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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: Mia1 ()
Date: May 01, 2011 10:39AM

I dont think its that bad, but I understand Chryn's point.

This draft was a failure to a point, of how horrible our trade's or lack there of went down.

We wanted to trade into the third to get Mallett, that failed through.

We instead traded our third round pick whoaaaa on Thomas, so the FO liked Thomas more than Mallett.

We could have traded down in the first, howeve the offer probably wasnt that good, so Ireland was like no dice.

Then in the 6th we take this clay guy, instead of redeaming ourselves by taking McELROY.

Just stupid, TE isnt that big a priority.

Not when your QB throw's it to the RB, or D lineman alot lol.

Seriously though they let two of the QB's I liked go to division rivals.

That really pissed me off, and I take it as a slap in the face.

I hope there right about Thomas and he turns in a 1k plus yard season, if not then you have to waunder.

Gates better be the next comming of Mike Wallace, and even better.

Pouncy better make the pro bowl every year like Long.

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: Mia1 ()
Date: May 01, 2011 10:39AM

Ohh yeah this Clay figure, better be the next Chris Cooley thats for damn sure.

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: May 01, 2011 11:51AM

I got news for ya...its already too late so what's the difference.

Some of us just know that there is no way in hell to know who will be the pro bowlers in this draft. If u think u do then u r just fooling yourself.

The fact is that this is Irelands first draft so he has to be judged from here on out. Not for what Parcels did...

Any fan has the right to complain. Some of us just prefer to at least let the rookies actually step on the field before we judge to harshly.

Your logic is flawed and Ireland knows more than anyone here about football players....admit it or not. The time to complain is after the result are in...not before.

And of course if they don't work out we will bitch and if any of the qbs look good and Henne is still the qb....we will bitch.

You talk like it does you any good to bitch now. It doesn't.

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: May 01, 2011 12:05PM

Well, I guess every draft analyst...Mayock, Kiper, McShay, Walter and anybody else who does this stuff and all have given us a "B" grade....guess they are all wrong and dont know what they are talking about.

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Date: May 01, 2011 12:19PM

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Well, I guess every draft analyst...Mayock, Kiper,
> McShay, Walter and anybody else who does this
> stuff and all have given us a "B" grade....guess
> they are all wrong and dont know what they are
> talking about.


That is what you are basing your opinion on? These people are glorified guessers. They play the odds and couldn't give a shit about your Team. All they want to do is be more right then wrong so they have a Job. Mel Kiper is a penis. BILL "Fing" Belichick took him. How many Superbowl rings do any of of those analyst's have? Have you known Belichick to NOT make the right move? Not only did we miss out on him, we gotta deal with him in another division. How can you not See the Ass raping we just got?

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: May 01, 2011 12:21PM

Again, everybody is wrong and you are right.

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Date: May 01, 2011 12:25PM

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Again, everybody is wrong and you are right.

No Just you. They are playing the odds to keep a job. You claim to be a real fan and just doesn't get it.

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: May 01, 2011 12:46PM

treasurecoast, this draft was not that bad.

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Date: May 01, 2011 01:33PM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> treasurecoast, this draft was not that bad.


If All we needed to win a Superbowl was a center and a speedy reciever then your right it would have been a great draft.

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: May 01, 2011 01:50PM

we need a lot to win the super bowl. there is no way we were going to get it in one draft. I get you are pissed we didn't get a QB, but this was a seriously weak QB draft. If there was a franchise QB to be had this year, then obviously we take him, but since there wasn't, I am OK with filling major needs (I think we did with the 1st 3 picks), signing a vet, and looking for the franchise QB in next year's draft, which should have been QBs available.

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: Phinsfan2 ()
Date: May 01, 2011 02:09PM


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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Date: May 01, 2011 02:17PM

Phinsfan2 Wrote:
> We couldn't get the most important one (Qcool smiley.
> After that does it really matter what order they
> come in?



Thats just it Chief. THATS what irks me the most. Thats what has given me the runs all day. We had Ryan Mallet and let it go. We had Ricky Stanzi and let it go. We let mcelroy fly as well. ALL TO AFC EAST TEAMS!!!!!!!!!!! Don't make any Trade up. Stay Put . and Mallet is ours. Plenty of RB halp avaialble in both the 4th and 5th rounds.

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: May 01, 2011 02:24PM

Whiner's are just plain p*ss**s that's all I have to say about them. Every time certain people post its bitching about this bitch about that. I suppose I am old school and realize bitching really doesn't change much but I also understand this is 2011 and things have change. For guys who can not take certain things like a man relax boys its Sunday. The coupons for your feminine hygiene products came today.

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Date: May 01, 2011 02:27PM

mizzou15 Wrote:
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> Whiner's are just plain p*ss**s that's all I have
> to say about them. Every time certain people post
> its bitching about this bitch about that. I
> suppose I am old school and realize bitching
> really doesn't change much but I also understand
> this is 2011 and things have change. For guys who
> can not take certain things like a man relax boys
> its Sunday. The coupons for your feminine hygiene
> products came today.

Rather use the Tampons to stop my ass bleeding though...

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 01, 2011 03:06PM

eesti Wrote:
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> I got news for ya...its already too late so what's
> the difference.
>
> Some of us just know that there is no way in hell
> to know who will be the pro bowlers in this draft.
> If u think u do then u r just fooling yourself.
>
> The fact is that this is Irelands first draft so
> he has to be judged from here on out. Not for what
> Parcels did...
>
> Any fan has the right to complain. Some of us
> just prefer to at least let the rookies actually
> step on the field before we judge to harshly.
>
> Your logic is flawed and Ireland knows more than
> anyone here about football players....admit it or
> not. The time to complain is after the result are
> in...not before.
>
> And of course if they don't work out we will bitch
> and if any of the qbs look good and Henne is still
> the qb....we will bitch.
>
> You talk like it does you any good to bitch now.
> It doesn't.


RESPONSE: You got it wrong eesti. It doesn't do any real good to bitch either at the draft or during the regular season because none of us have any power or say in what happens.

Hey, that's what this board is for though. For us fans to bitch and moan.

So, since it doesn't do any good, then it makes more sense to do it now when the mistake is first made than to wait during the regular season when the bad choices lead to the inevitable result and then bitch and moan.

And you have no real right at that point to bitch and moan when you were as gleeful as a junebug when the mistakes were first made (that is IN THE DRAFT!!!!!!)

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: Phinsfan2 ()
Date: May 01, 2011 03:32PM


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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: sconigli ()
Date: May 01, 2011 03:38PM

Our interior Oline was such a godawful abortion last year. A backfield of Tom Brady and Adrian Peterson would suck badly behind such a unit. This needed (and still needs IMO) to get fixed ASAP.

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: May 01, 2011 03:38PM

phinsfan, stop making sense!

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: May 01, 2011 04:13PM

I dont care what you say phinsfan, i'm still p.ssed we took Kearse at 231 and NOT 235, took him at least 4 picks TOO early!

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: May 01, 2011 04:17PM

These complainers are the same ones who were pissed we didnt take Brady Quinn at QB.

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: May 01, 2011 04:18PM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> Aqua&Orange Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Well, I guess every draft analyst...Mayock,
> Kiper,
> > McShay, Walter and anybody else who does this
> > stuff and all have given us a "B"
> grade....guess
> > they are all wrong and dont know what they are
> > talking about.
>
>
> That is what you are basing your opinion on? These
> people are glorified guessers. They play the odds
> and couldn't give a shit about your Team. All they
> want to do is be more right then wrong so they
> have a Job. Mel Kiper is a penis. BILL "Fing"
> Belichick took him. How many Superbowl rings do
> any of of those analyst's have? Have you known
> Belichick to NOT make the right move? Not only did
> we miss out on him, we gotta deal with him in
> another division. How can you not See the Ass
> raping we just got?


So the "glorified guessers" don't know what they're talking about when handing out draft grades but they do when rating players before the draft?

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: Phinsfan2 ()
Date: May 01, 2011 04:21PM


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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 01, 2011 04:27PM


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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: ghotirule ()
Date: May 01, 2011 04:52PM


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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: May 01, 2011 04:55PM

The pats are overrated.

Look at how the Pack and Steelers have built their teams. Not the patsies.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/01/2011 04:55PM by Aqua&Orange.

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: Phinsfan2 ()
Date: May 01, 2011 05:22PM


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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 01, 2011 05:54PM

A Marino was also said to have off-field problems. But besides (some people thinking he) "talks black" and he maybe blows a little weed now and then (ARE YOU SO YOUNG YOU NEVER READ "NORTH DALLAS FORTY" ) , I really don't see any problems worth not picking him.

B that our staff did not consider him to be worth taking at number 15, does not mean, LOGICALLY, that you don't grab him at 72 or 79 or whatever when we got Danny Thomas.

It's one thing to value Pouncey higher in terms of need than Mallet.

But c'mon PhinFans2, you've got better sense than that, you know that if you can get 2 of your three top designed picks, you do so, unless you are totally convinced that this guy is someone you don't want.

BTW, we seemed to have spent a lot of time with this guy we don't want in the days leading up to the draft.

I'll bet instead, that they simply AND FOOLISHLY rated Daniel Thomas higher than them AND/OR they felt they could get him in the 4th round and that everyone considered him draft poison.

The idiots!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/01/2011 05:57PM by ChyrenB.

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Re: The difference bewteen us Whiners
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: May 01, 2011 06:29PM

I'd have been OK taking mallet instead of thomas in the 2d, but I don't think that makes this draft the fiasco you all are making it out to be

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