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BIGGEST NEED by Position..

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21 votes were received.

QB	10		48%
C/G	6		29%
RB	4		19%
Other	1		4%

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-Are we 1 elite player away from turning the corner in our division?
-Should we trade down or UP?
-With key departures on the horizon, what positions need a HEALTHY ROOKIE to step in?

The jury is still out on Henne. I'm no Mia1 but I feel that if we had to go into the season with Thiggy and another vet back up, assuming Henne did not progress, I don't think that the bottom line would be materially different from last year so I'd rather gamble upgrading in other areas than starting a new 3 year wait on a rookie QB.

I, on the other hand, am going to say something that most would disagree with as well. I think that OL is the biggest need we have but I think we can get healthy at that position in the rounds after the first.

Therefore, the number one need I would address in the first round is RB.

Hey, Guys, Ricky and Ronnie can't live forever. I know all that stuff about RBs are a dime a dozen nowadays but as dismal as we were, we would have been worst the past few years without Ricky and Ronnie and they are not just your average a dime a dozen backs.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/07/2011 12:53PM by ChyrenB.

Well unless you get tom terrific, manning, or rivers I dont see how we will have sucess cause there are only a hand full of qb's that can win without a running game. And we dont have that. However I can name over 20 qb that can win when you can give them a consistent 100 yards on the ground. We need to get mike pouncey... no brainer!

C/G is my pick, doesnt matter if we have Manning with this mediocre center OL, a qb is not going to do a thing.

I'm hoping DaBoll finds us a Hillis type RB in Round 3 to go along with improved play from Henne and the passing game. With new passing schemes, and the removal of the Wildcat I forsee a solidifying of the line which will improve this offense immensively.

Agree with Toko, and Chryn, good to see you comming around on Thigpen, Ill reserve you a seat when dinner is served. lol

With Toko, yes I voted C/G, because I don't care if you have Barry Sanders back there, and Marino, they both won't do much, when there being hit at the LOS, OR BEING NOCKED around like a rag doll.

Trade down twice take a c,g, then WR, RB,G,WR,RB.

If Ronnie and Ricky are to go, then there is no question that RB is the biggest position of need. The more I think about it, the more I think Ingram might be the guy.

QB is easily #1.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

QB ^ RB. I think Thigpen can be adequte so get him some OL a speedy wide out(That can catch!) and a backfield.

I picked QB because it's the toughest position to fill. We need RBs and C/G, but they can be had in later rounds or in FA.

IF we were just one or two players away I would definitely pick QB, BUTT, we are not that close IMHO. Last draft we addressed a horendous defense in the draft and got pretty good results. This year we need to do the same on the offensive line, give them a year to gel and only then find the franchise QB to bring it all together.
There doesn't seem to be a "homerun" QB in this year's draft.

#15...we have to wait and see who's on the board. Then trade down if the following individuals are NOT availble-
(WHO?)

RB not sure we need o-lineman maybe a center I think our o-line problem is in the coaching.

Ingram would be the safe easy pick which usually results in a crappy pick

ChambersDeepBall Wrote:
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> Ingram would be the safe easy pick which usually
> results in a crappy pick

Yep

I am also off the Ingram bandwagon. It's funny how every single mock draft has us taking him. I'd rather sign a FA RB and take one in the 3d or 4th, preferably with a trade down mixed in there.

Voted other.DE/OLB, CB,

IMO this draft is loaded with defensive talent. Defense is still the bread and butter of this team and is vital to almost every championship team.We could use some more dynamic pass rushers and some cornerback help IMO.

C- we could use one but I don't see any worth taking at #15.

RB/FB- Can be found later in the draft.

G-I think we will address through free agency or lter in draft.

TE- later in draft.

WR-later in draft.

QB- Would be a wasted pick because only one QB can play at a time and I highly doubt any rookie QB will lead us to a superbowl in his first year especially any of these in this years draft. We have a rookie qb(Henne) with a bit of experience already in place and a good backup in Thigpen to step in if things don't work out.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/08/2011 07:14AM by sleekdogg.

sleekdogg Wrote:
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> Voted other.DE/OLB, CB,
>
DE? We have Starks, Langford, Merling, Odrick, and may re-sign McDaniels. I wouldn't mind seeing us trade Starks. I don't see DE as a need. In fact, it's a point of strength.

OLB? Wake's solid. Misi looks like he will develop into a very good OLB. We also have depth. We could use a backup WOLB to spell Wake, but those can be had in later rounds or FA.

CB? Vontae? Smith? Will Allen? Carroll? Uhhh....where's the need?

> C- we could use one but I don't see any worth
> taking at #15.
A good one is essential to a good O-Line. We've ignored this position for FAR TOO LONG.

>
> RB/FB- Can be found later in the draft.
Agreed.


> G-I think we will address through free agency or
> lter in draft.
Agreed.


>
> TE- later in draft.
Did you forget that besides Fasano we, pretty much, have NOBODY!!?? I wouldn't complain if we get an all-world TE that can start over Fasano. Fasano is decent, but he's NOT pro-bowl material. We still need a faster guy with good hands.

> WR-later in draft.
We have no speed since we let Ginn go. What are we going to do about that?

>
> QB- Would be a wasted pick because only one QB can
> play at a time and I highly doubt any rookie QB
> will lead us to a superbowl in his first year
> especially any of these in this years draft. We
> have a rookie qb(Henne) with a bit of experience
> already in place and a good backup in Thigpen to
> step in if things don't work out.
This is a ridiculous argument. You don't want to draft a QB because only one guy can play at a time???!! We have 4-5 DEs. Why draft another then if only 2 can play at a time? As for rookie leading us to a Superbowl, if you honestly believe we're going to play for a Superbowl next year you're sadly mistaken.

montequi Wrote:
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> sleekdogg Wrote:
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> > Voted other.DE/OLB, CB,
> >
> DE? We have Starks, Langford, Merling, Odrick,
> and may re-sign McDaniels. I wouldn't mind seeing
> us trade Starks. I don't see DE as a need. In
> fact, it's a point of strength.
>
> OLB? Wake's solid. Misi looks like he will
> develop into a very good OLB. We also have depth.
> We could use a backup WOLB to spell Wake, but
> those can be had in later rounds or FA.
>
> CB? Vontae? Smith? Will Allen? Carroll?
> Uhhh....where's the need?
>
> > C- we could use one but I don't see any worth
> > taking at #15.
> A good one is essential to a good O-Line. We've
> ignored this position for FAR TOO LONG.
>
> >
> > RB/FB- Can be found later in the draft.
> Agreed.
>
>
> > G-I think we will address through free agency
> or
> > lter in draft.
> Agreed.
>
>
> >
> > TE- later in draft.
> Did you forget that besides Fasano we, pretty
> much, have NOBODY!!?? I wouldn't complain if we
> get an all-world TE that can start over Fasano.
> Fasano is decent, but he's NOT pro-bowl material.
> We still need a faster guy with good hands.
>
> > WR-later in draft.
> We have no speed since we let Ginn go. What are
> we going to do about that?
>
> >
> > QB- Would be a wasted pick because only one QB
> can
> > play at a time and I highly doubt any rookie QB
> > will lead us to a superbowl in his first year
> > especially any of these in this years draft. We
> > have a rookie qb(Henne) with a bit of
> experience
> > already in place and a good backup in Thigpen
> to
> > step in if things don't work out.
> This is a ridiculous argument. You don't want to
> draft a QB because only one guy can play at a
> time???!! We have 4-5 DEs. Why draft another
> then if only 2 can play at a time? As for rookie
> leading us to a Superbowl, if you honestly believe
> we're going to play for a Superbowl next year
> you're sadly mistaken.


At #15 there will be many skilled pass rushers available and cornerbacks. Just because we have some guys on our roster doesn't mean we can't find an upgrade to what we currently have, we can always trade somebody if we need to. Pass rushers and cornerbacks can contribute relatively quickly and fit it in many different sets and can play multiple positions sometimes. I would say pick a Center but I don't see a center in this draft I would spend #15 on. The other offensive positions I don't think we need to spend a 1st rounder on.

What is ridiculous is you saying that we should take our highest valued pick and spend it on a Qb. First, many of the QBS will be off the board by the time they reach #15. Secondly, you are looking at a player who will contribute nothing for a few years. Third, if he hasn't got it you have totally lost a pick because QB is usually the only position they can play. Fourth, we haven't really seen what Henne can do with a new OC so you would be wasting a 2nd rd pick by casting a premature judgement on him. Fifth, Thigpen could be an option as well with a new OC and his experience if Henne don't cut it.

Besides all that IMO there is no clear cut payton mannings in this draft, I feel if you really wanted to take a QB, one in the later rounds might do just as well.

Who are you planning on getting at #15?

sleekdogg Wrote:
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> At #15 there will be many skilled pass rushers
> available and cornerbacks. Just because we have
> some guys on our roster doesn't mean we can't find
> an upgrade to what we currently have,
You really think you're going to find an upgrade to Davis and Smith (CB ) at #15? Who do you have in mind?


> What is ridiculous is you saying that we should
> take our highest valued pick and spend it on a Qb.
I used to think like you, but ALL the QBs taken in the 1st round in the last 3 years have been successful, and we haven't drafted a QB in the 1st round since Marino. Based on those 2 facts alone I want a QB in the 1st round.

> Besides all that IMO there is no clear cut payton
> mannings in this draft,
NO ONE is expecting to get a Peyton Manning at #15. He was drafted #1 overall. On the other hand, Big Ben and Aaron Rodgers were drafted later in the 1st round, and they've both turned out really good! In fact, Big Ben has had FAR more success than Peyton Manning in his career.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/08/2011 10:20AM by montequi.

Mia1 Wrote:
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> Agree with Toko, and Chryn, good to see you
> comming around on Thigpen, Ill reserve you a seat
> when dinner is served. lol

RESPONSE: Whoa.... I'm not saying Thiggy should replace Henne. I'm just saying that considering we have Thiggy AND Henne makes QB a less of a priority.

NATE SOLDER is an O-LINE BEAST. Opposite JAKE whata pair of young bookends, move CAREY inside. And really make some strides, might keep HENNE from having so many tipped passes...

DaytonaDolfan13 Wrote:
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> NATE SOLDER is an O-LINE BEAST. Opposite JAKE
> whata pair of young bookends, move CAREY inside.
> And really make some strides, might keep HENNE
> from having so many tipped passes...

Still don't get who will play Center.

If ANYONE is the choice @15...we'd have to wait 64 selections before taking another guy off he board, which means we'll most definately trade-down.
But with this FO, ya just never know. I make sure I am generously buzzed before our selection comes up Let me just tell you, ODRICK wasn't exactely a beacon on my bigboard last year... crazy me would've taken RB JHAVID BEST.

Based on team needs this a very disappointing draft class. As many as 10 defensive front 7 players may go in the first round and we are set at those positions.

The best player in the draft is a corner but he will be gone (Peterson)...as well as the second corner. Von Miller will be gone and OLB is not a great need.

There is no clear cut franchise QB since Luck went back and the top two will be gone with 9 or so teams ahead of us with QB questions.

We almost have to trade down and gamble on a QB in the bottom of first and pick up a second to grab a WR, TE or OL.

The big question about Henne is can he unlearn what he has been taught over the last three years? He says he was handcuffed but still threw way too many key ints. Will Sporano step back and let Dabol take the cuffs off?

We have to draft a Qb and we almost have to sign a vet. That leaves a competition between Henne and Thigpen for a roster spot but a legit 4 way competition at Qb.

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