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Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: February 28, 2011 04:32PM


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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: February 28, 2011 04:41PM

I hate unions.

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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: February 28, 2011 05:47PM

it's his job but he does seem a bit gleeful about it

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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: g_fish55 ()
Date: February 28, 2011 05:47PM

so what is the rule thats being broken here? sounds pretty bogus to me...

"It's been fun to get the reaction of visiting coaches to the color of their locker room. Most don't notice it, but those that do are in trouble. . . . When I talk to an opposing coach before a game and he mentions the pink walls, I know I've got him. I can't recall a coach who has stirred up a fuss about the color and then beat us.” Hayden Fry

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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: February 28, 2011 06:34PM

if there is a rule and we don't know it this just shows the idiots we have in our front office

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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: March 01, 2011 02:08AM

Armando is among the punk fool local reporters. No denying that, he is pretty much a fool.
No big deal, even if it is a violation. Teams with new offenses better have done something like this before the lockout or they are fools. What happens if the lockout ends with only a few weeks to prepare for the season, the Dolphins would be at a huge disadvantage, trying to install a new offense in just a few weeks. So the FO hedged its bets, If they are penalized for it a bit, it is worth the penalty. But I doubt with the uncertainty, that the league is going crucify us over this move. I am sure Mcdaniels met in some back alley with Bradford to teach him the new install for the Rams as well.

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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: March 01, 2011 02:21AM

montequi Wrote:
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> I hate unions.


Monty you can hate Unions for whatever reason, but this is the league telling the teams they can't do this out of fear the players can use it in court at a later date. It's speculation on the writers part the union will reprimand Henne, but it's a known fact that the league has told teams not to do this.

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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: March 01, 2011 03:43AM

Some people seem to think that if we did violate the rule, the league may take away a draft pick.....probably our 3rd rounder.


I WOULD BE PISSED!!!

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: March 01, 2011 04:03AM

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Some people seem to think that if we did violate
> the rule, the league may take away a draft
> pick.....probably our 3rd rounder.
>
>
> I WOULD BE PISSED!!!


That would suck!!! They better not do that. I do not think they will do it, there are a ton special circumstances surrounding this offseason, I do not think we will lose a draft pick over this, and if we do nothing more then a 6th or 7th round compensatory pick they will withhold. Nothing with a real bite IMO. I could be wrong, but I do not think I am ...

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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: Jim B ()
Date: March 01, 2011 04:05AM


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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: March 01, 2011 05:27AM

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> montequi Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I hate unions.
>
>
> Monty you can hate Unions for whatever reason, but
> this is the league telling the teams they can't do
> this out of fear the players can use it in court
> at a later date. It's speculation on the writers
> part the union will reprimand Henne, but it's a
> known fact that the league has told teams not to
> do this.

I, actually, don't think he broke any rules, but without a CBA the league is hard pressed to do anything. The union can still hurt him, though.

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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: JC ()
Date: March 01, 2011 05:37AM

Armando is only doing his job as a reporter, as berk said. And I agree that he is enjoying it. Don't forget, this is the same reporter who was caught high-fiving others in a bar over a good play by the Buffalo Bills (a good play by them is rare by nature, but still). After being outed as a Bills fan he told a series of lies to unsuccessfully cover it up. So nobody should be surprised if he puts the Dolphins in a bad light in an article/blog post. He's not a Phins fan.

Having said that, I don't have a problem with this. Reporters can't all be homers, that'd be boring. And there's not much of a risk of that happening in S. Fl, where so many (if not most) people have allegiances to other places and teams.

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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: Phinsfan2 ()
Date: March 01, 2011 06:30AM


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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: Mia1 ()
Date: March 01, 2011 07:37AM

I hate the 8 hour work day, and the minimum wage. Also the 5 day work week is a sack of s..t.

In the middle east there weekends start on Thursday's, thats right they dont have a TGIF'S, THEY HAVE TGIT's restuarant!

I know it freaked me out the first time I saw it too.

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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: Leon In Denver ()
Date: March 01, 2011 07:53AM

"> Unions are famous for punishing hard work.


Perhaps. But they are also responsible for the development of child Labor laws, the minimum wage, the 5 day work week, and the 8 hour work day in this country."

You are both correct. In the private sector unions are necessary checks and balance. However, we now have laws that prevent unfair labor practices. That is one reason that union membership has declined in the private sector.

As far as sports go, some rules are needed, but as players negotiate their own contracts, how much collective bargaining should there be? This CBA and potential lockout really should not be happening. Why should the owners have to show what they make and what makes the players think they need to share a percentage of revenue? Does that happen in any other business? At the same time, players need to be protected in other ways.

Now the public sector is a whole other problem as we are watching almost every day now.

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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: March 01, 2011 09:27AM

Believe me, the owners want the NFLPA to stick around, without an NFLPA there would be no salary cap and that means the owners would have to trust themselves to not go crazy on contracts.....that would never happen. Also for us fans, if there wasn't a salary cap that would mean no salary floor and the cheap teams wouldn't be forced to spend a certain amount, either way the NFL product would suffer. Although I don't consider the NFLPA a "true" union, I do think it's somewhat neccesary in some form.

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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: March 02, 2011 05:17AM

JC Wrote:
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> Armando is only doing his job as a reporter, as
> berk said. And I agree that he is enjoying it.
> Don't forget, this is the same reporter who was
> caught high-fiving others in a bar over a good
> play by the Buffalo Bills

Well, interesting.......Its obvious armando is a phins hater...

the day you catch me jumping for joy when bills player makes a great play is the day when i commit harry karry or however you spell it.

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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: Odenn ()
Date: March 02, 2011 05:40AM


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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: Mia1 ()
Date: March 02, 2011 07:01AM

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> Believe me, the owners want the NFLPA to stick
> around, without an NFLPA there would be no salary
> cap and that means the owners would have to trust
> themselves to not go crazy on contracts.....that
> would never happen. Also for us fans, if there
> wasn't a salary cap that would mean no salary
> floor and the cheap teams wouldn't be forced to
> spend a certain amount, either way the NFL product
> would suffer. Although I don't consider the NFLPA
> a "true" union, I do think it's somewhat neccesary
> in some form.


It would not suffer, in fact it could open up new avenues for people.

Not all the highest paid players are the best.

With no min wage players abroad would try alot harder to make the money.

Competition would sky rockett, and you would have much harder hit's like back in the 60's and 70's, less penalties, and higher turn around on players staying healthy, meaning more revolving doors.

I think it would do waunders for the nfl.

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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: March 02, 2011 07:35AM

Some statements dont need to be debated, look up at the previous post to see one of em.

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Re: Armando sold out the PHINS!!!!!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 02, 2011 07:32PM

Phinsfan2 Wrote:
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> > Unions are famous for punishing hard work.
>
>
> Perhaps. But they are also responsible for the
> development of child Labor laws, the minimum wage,
> the 5 day work week, and the 8 hour work day in
> this country.


QUOTE: By Winston Churchill (relevant here by analogy) Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.

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