I can vouch first hand that Kaepernick and Mallett have great arms. Locker, not so much.


Kaepernick, impressed me soooo much. That guy looks like a player.

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Can't draft for speed only , got burned doing that with Ginn

Torrey Smith is strong fast receiver

Da rel scott, Locke, Quizz and Steven Ridley some decent later round picks

I'm not suggesting that speed is the top requirement...just that Ireland has clearly added speed to the list of requirements where it has been clearly de-emphasized in the past. It is no longer just SIZE, SMARTS, & Discipline.

We have been left with a plodding, unexplosive offense.

According to Ireland, Speed (rightly so) is now involved in a shift of offensive philosophy.

We currently did not have a systematic approach that would allow speed players to thrive. The results were lacking big positive plays and yeilded big negative plays on special teams.

Ireland has already set his draft board. Now he is in the process of removing players that don't fit the blueprint. I am very interested in seeing how much he will really emphasize speed in this draft because of past neglect.

It wouldn't hurt my feelings if we added these players:

RB...Da'rel Scott, Maryland .... 4.34
QB...Colin Kaepernick, Nevada .... 4.53
WR...Edmond Gates, Abilene Christian .... 4.37
TE...R. Housler, Florida Atlantic ... 4.55



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/28/2011 04:38AM by Jim B.

A speedy QB? I'm more concerned with the speed of the ball coming out of his hands than how fast he runs. It's not like we're going to run the option or anything

Speedy TE? Doesn't hurt, but a TE is supposed to be big and physical with hands like glue. Speed comes after that.

Speedy RB? Doesn't do any good if he can't get into the open field. The O-Line and FB need to create running lanes. A RB should be able to break tackles as well as catch the ball out of the backfield. Slow RBs have been VERY successful in the NFL. It doesn't hurt to have a speed guy who can get around the corner, but your primary back, your workhorse, (and this is also true of Sparano's offense) is usually a power guy that can run inside.

WR is the ONE position on offense where speed is essential. Defense is a different story (as LBs AND DBs benefit from being fast), but on offense speed is not always the formula to success.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/28/2011 04:43AM by montequi.

You do realize that most exciting QB to watch last season was Mike Vick who happens to be the fastest QB in the NFL.

What can a speed QB add? He can extend plays that allows receivers more time to get open down field. He can convert on critical third and forth down plays with his feet and extend drives. He can create the need for the defense to assign a shadow player for containment.

The speed QB I suggested is not lacking in arm strength.

I believe that adding speed at the other skill positions is a critical element to producing explosive plays.

Jim B Wrote:
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> You do realize that most exciting QB to watch last
> season was Mike Vick who happens to be the fastest
> QB in the NFL.
>
Yeah, but who played in the Superbowl? Big Ben and Aaron Rodgers. Neither is particularly mobile.

Jim B Wrote:
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> Colin Kaepernick not only has the second fastest
> set of legs of the QB's... he has the strongest
> arm tossing the rock at 59 mph.
>
> I watched an interview from the Nevada TE talking
> about how Kaepernick was throwing the ball too
> hard his first year and has learned how to take
> some velocity off the ball.
>
> The Nevada TE (Virgil Green) should also be on our
> radar for his speed and athletism.


only 59 mph? What did Marino throw, because that just seems weak to me?

I dont think his mechanics are no where as bad as Vince Young's. I have to strongly disagree.

Mayock says his "long motion" is the problem with his mechanics.

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Plus, Kaepernick was able to win big games....i.e Knocking off Boise St.

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But honestly, I dont know anything....I am just an arm-chair QB scout. He could be terrible in the NFL.

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> Jim B Wrote:
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> > Colin Kaepernick not only has the second
> fastest
> > set of legs of the QB's... he has the strongest
> > arm tossing the rock at 59 mph.
> >

Mia1 Wrote:
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> > only 59 mph? What did Marino throw, because that
> just seems weak to me?

RESPONSE: About 95 mph. Maybe JIm B. accidentally just inverted the numbers because 59 mph is pretty slow.

So I hope there wont be a QB who is 7'00 and has a REALLY BIG arm!! lol.

So do they convert because I thought I read somewhere that Marino threw 95 mph while Henne throws at about 90 mph.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> So do they convert because I thought I read
> somewhere that Marino threw 95 mph while Henne
> throws at about 90 mph.

Not sure about Henne, but Dan played baseball too. That MIGHT be his fast ball speed.

We have the big, physical, imposing, players on our roster at the moment...if we can add fast players next month that's what we should draft.

All things being equal (and they never are, I know) the faster player is the one we should take.

Even if two players are "close" in ability, the faster one is the one we should take....espcially at WR, RB and TE.

Mia1 Wrote:
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> Jim B Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Colin Kaepernick not only has the second
> fastest
> > set of legs of the QB's... he has the strongest
> > arm tossing the rock at 59 mph.
> >
> > I watched an interview from the Nevada TE
> talking
> > about how Kaepernick was throwing the ball too
> > hard his first year and has learned how to take
> > some velocity off the ball.
> >
> > The Nevada TE (Virgil Green) should also be on
> our
> > radar for his speed and athletism.
>
>
> only 59 mph? What did Marino throw, because that
> just seems weak to me?


59 miles weak???? With a football?

Its not baseball......for football is very good.

Have you seen those softball women pitchers throwin the 60s...Fast as hell