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I like Sparano as a person, like his values, work ethic, coaching bloodlines. But as an ispirational leader of men, I think he's a bit soft and lacking.
Where he really damaged my opinion of him was when I listened to his post-game pep talk after miraculously beating the Jets with one of the worst team performances of the year.
Do you think Lambardi, Halas, Landry, or Shula would have ever given a game ball to the punter!??
What a spin doctor!! That was by no means a game/performance to be proud of, and it should have been reflected in the HC's tone.
By sugar-coating that mierable effort, he sets the bar way too low as to what he deems winning football. It showed by the way they came out to play the Bills...FLAT and uninspired, instead of like they had just had a huge fire lit under their collective asses!!
I doubt Bellichek lets his guys off, he lets them know 'ITS THEIR DAMN JOB'!! You can take some time off after you win the Superbowl or make the playoffs.
Bill Belichick is a guy who goes for it on 4th and 1 in a critical situation -- in his own end of the field -- because he thinks the risk is worth it.
Bill Belichick is a guy who goes for it on 4th and 1 in field goal range, because he knows that a touchdown is worth a lot more than a FG attempt.
Bill Belichick is a guy who very rarely punts between the 50 yard line and field goal territory, because he knows that the benefit of sustaining a drive with scoring potential is worth the risk of losing 20 yards of field position.
I hate the Patriots but let's be real here. Bill Belichick is a much better coach than Tony Sparano for reasons that go far beyond whether or not he lets his guys have a day off during the week after a victory.
Bill Belichick BENCHES guys who make the same mistakes over and over again. Jason Allen's ass would have been riding the pine halfway through the Jets game, instead of starting for SEVEN WEEKS and getting torched 2-3 times per game.
However, I think that most coaches in this league probably get away with as much as they can. Look at the thing with the Jets' wall on the sideline. It turns out that a LOT of teams are doing that.
The more I think about this the more obvious it is that Sparano is NOT worth another year. I like the guy personally but he’s in way over his head in terms of matching wits with Billy Goat. We need someone with a significantly higher football IQ (specifically a brilliant offensive mind IMO).
Poor Henne comes off the field and none of the coaches invest any time trying to help the kid correct problems etc. No. I’m not saying that would suddenly make Henne the solution at QB, but you’ve got to wonder how badly he’s been handled.
BigNastyFish Wrote:
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> The more I think about this the more obvious it is
> that Sparano is NOT worth another year. I like the
> guy personally but he’s in way over his head in
> terms of matching wits with Billy Goat. We need
> someone with a significantly higher football IQ
> (specifically a brilliant offensive mind IMO).
>
> Poor Henne comes off the field and none of the
> coaches invest any time trying to help the kid
> correct problems etc. No. I’m not saying that
> would suddenly make Henne the solution at QB, but
> you’ve got to wonder how badly he’s been
> handled.
>
> Sparano MUST GO.
Tony could do it, but he’d need an OC who could match wits with Bill (and others). And, if he found that OC, he’d lose him soon enough, so he’d have to find another sharp one, difficult but not impossible.
The problem is Sparano might not have earned another chance, ah, it’s that damned record thing. In hindsight, it might’ve been better for Tony to go with Lee this season. Huge risk yes, and Lee seems like a wild man with all the wildcat stuff, but, maybe a bit more daring-do was called for.
And with the candidates out there, very tricky for Miami to stand pat.
I havent read this thread but this is what i think and its simple..
I think sparano can do the job if we get a top notch QB and henning retires.
We need an Oc that knows what he is doing because henning and his wildcat is a dam mess.
Henning is still trying to convince people that the wild cat works. And im sick to my stomach with it.
And in case we do not keep sparano either bring in cowher. Anything else would be a mistake. Cowher has even said he wants to come here. He has a couple teams in mind. If we fire sparano then cowher.
i know a top QB is hard to find but draft one in the first round this year. Do whatever it take and trade up and draft a dam QB?
When was the last time we drafted a QB in the first round?
Marino?
Im really gonna be pissed if there a a couple of QBs up there whats his name the heissman trophy winner of one otf the runners up and we dont snatch one of them...
What have we been doing in the first round anyways?
Tedd ginn
jason allen
traded first round for a that year and drafted eddy moore in the second?
One of the biggest busts ever in a phins uniform.
Phinsfan2 Wrote:
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> SigKash Wrote:
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> >
> > HOw about they rest of you guys? Anyone have
> the
> > hardass, or a players coach? Which is better?
>
>
> That's a good question.
>
> I think the two most important qualities that a
> coach can posses are that he has the ability to
> generate fear AND respect from those he coaches.
>
> You can be friendly or nasty as hell. It really
> doesn't matter so long as you can find that
> balance between fear and respect. I fyou can do
> that, then you can be great.
>
>
> generally speaking though I think its easier to
> generate that fear and garner that respect if you
> are a hardass.
Some good points here. Example: An owner of a company needs to be a leader. Many think he needs to be a good manager. That can help, but leadership is what brings people together and keeps them motivated and together.
A head coach needs to be a good manager and good leader. That is why he needs a GM, OC, and DC. Let them do most of the coaching/personnel decisions, and manage the team. This is actually what I see Sparano doing. However, he needs the best possible coaches for DC and OC. He has one and needs the other.
If he was serious about Henning, then he really does need to go. We will all know soon enough.
I kind of get the feeling some are missing a really important point IMO.
The HC needs to be the HIGHEST FOOTBALL IQ on the staff and capable of scheming and game-planning on both sides of the ball. The OC and DC are supposed to implement the HC’s directive and overall plan. Of course this is a collaborative process, but the HC is the dude with FULL accountability for both sides of the ball.
Now with that being establish what good is a particular HC if he’s not strong on both sides of the ball? In other words do you want a guy who absolutely needs an offensive guru because he’s lost without one? I say no thanks to that.
Take Billy Goat as an example. The dude can throw coordinators away in the trash and the timex keeps on ticking. Why? Because Billy Goat can coach on BOTH sides of the ball.
Example: in the Chicago game, he gives Brady advice during the game (specifically about looking off) because the Goat knows D and can easily diagnose what the D is doing and counter that. Of course it helps having a QB who can execute and incorporate coaching, but Billy Goat is using his brain very effectively.
Can Sparano match wits with Billy Goat. No freaking way IMO.
Now Gruden is another matter. He’s a smart rascal and is a VERY ACTIVE game coach and never stops thinking. Plus he’s fully capable of coaching on both sides of the ball (tho of course he’s an offensive mind first).
BigNastyFish Wrote:
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> I kind of get the feeling some are missing a
> really important point IMO.
>
> The HC needs to be the HIGHEST FOOTBALL IQ on the
> staff and capable of scheming and game-planning on
> both sides of the ball. The OC and DC are supposed
> to implement the HC’s directive and overall
> plan. Of course this is a collaborative process,
> but the HC is the dude with FULL accountability
> for both sides of the ball.
>
> Now with that being establish what good is a
> particular HC if he’s not strong on both sides
> of the ball? In other words do you want a guy who
> absolutely needs an offensive guru because he’s
> lost without one? I say no thanks to that.
>
> Take Billy Goat as an example. The dude can throw
> coordinators away in the trash and the timex keeps
> on ticking. Why? Because Billy Goat can coach on
> BOTH sides of the ball.
>
> Example: in the Chicago game, he gives Brady
> advice during the game (specifically about looking
> off) because the Goat knows D and can easily
> diagnose what the D is doing and counter that. Of
> course it helps having a QB who can execute and
> incorporate coaching, but Billy Goat is using his
> brain very effectively.
>
> Can Sparano match wits with Billy Goat. No
> freaking way IMO.
>
> Now Gruden is another matter. He’s a smart
> rascal and is a VERY ACTIVE game coach and never
> stops thinking. Plus he’s fully capable of
> coaching on both sides of the ball (tho of course
> he’s an offensive mind first).
I'm not missing your point at all. A coach should not be promoted to HC unless he knows both sides of the ball. But he has to be the leader and a good manager. Shula is the first example I think of. He was a defensive player and coach. Then was HC of the Colts. He had an OC in Ted Marchabroda (sp) and a DC, I don't remember who. Anyway, Shula was into every aspect of the game and was a great leader and manager.
Sparano is still learning. I'm not convinced he must go but I do know Henning must go.
I dont think Tony's any better or worse then most other coaches (obviously a guy like Bellicheat is head and shoulders above everyone else), you wanna see bad clock mnmgt. just watch the Jets, but my main problem with him is the conservative approach that he brings, if he would mix it up and go for it on 4th & 2 sometimes instead of constantly going for FG's I wouldn't have a problem with him. All other short-comings could and probably would be fixed with more experience but I don't see him turning into "Air Coreyell" anytime soon.
dolphaholic Wrote:
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> my
> main problem with him is the conservative approach
> that he brings, if he would mix it up and go for
> it on 4th & 2 sometimes instead of constantly
> going for FG's I wouldn't have a problem with him.
We did some of that last year, but my issue is how the overall play calling changes when we cross mid-field.
> All other short-comings could and probably would
> be fixed with more experience but I don't see him
> turning into "Air Coreyell" anytime soon.