I like listening to Gruden when he's in the booth. He understands the modern football game and has spot on evaluations of players. He would definitely be an asset to this team if he were HC.

Cowher scares me a bit...Like how he stubbornly stuck with QB Cordell Stewart when the whole world knew Stewart sucked.

Cowher, it's not even close fellas.

Chuckie

Cowher built that Pitt team and took them to 2 Superbowls. Gruden came into a team that was built by Tony Dungy, took it to 1 Superbowl, then stayed on as they had losing seasons and he was eventually fired. It's Cowher for me.

We are getting cowher. I'd prefer chuckie, but let's just win.

team CHUCKIE

Until Cowher got Rapelisberger he was a 3 yards a cloud of dust, win it with strong D type of coach (I'll agree he did it very well) I've seen enough of this in the last 10 years, I want an innovative offensive minded coach. Chuckie

Wouldn't be too upset if it was Cowher though.

I voted Cowher but, either one will do. Sparano is in waaay over his head. From Offensive line coach to head HC, that's quite a leap. What was Parcell thinking?

ghotirule Wrote:
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> Sparano is in waaay over his head. From Offensive
> line coach to head HC, that's quite a leap.
>
> No, he was an assistant HC. Parcells was grooming
> the guy, but I think he's got some limitations.
>
> Sparano did well his first year getting this team
> out from under. He's not a bad motivator, and
> understands the processes involved in getting a
> team prepared. But the manager/cheerleader act
> can only go so far. At some point you gotta put
> on a hoodie, step on the sidelines, and dismantle
> your opponent.
>
> What is really pissing me off about the guy is
> that the discipline isn't there. Stupid things
> like the delay of game penalties, 12 men on the
> field, the ridiculous lateral that cost us points
> - Sparano is not keeping his team in line.
> Instead, he wants to be everyone's buddy.


You are dead on there! I really like Sparano and have supported him up till now and I would honestly feel for him when he does get fired but the game management,timeouts and etc.... it`s too much!
It`s time for a new direction.

Cowher or Gruden is fine with me but my gut instinct says the Dolphins should hire Chucky.

Gruden...ummmmm, no. I never liked him as a coach.

Cowher..I like his disciplined approach but thought for the most part he was an average coach during his time in Pitt.

Give me an agressive offensive minded guy and then give him the time to implement that strategy...unlike what happened to Cam Cameron.

Either way Mike Nolan has to be retained.

Gruden simply because I don't want another coach with a mustache. Enough of this Wannyball nonsense.

Cowher is not Wanny. It's a shame to put them in the same sentence.


This is too easy of a question, Cowher hands down.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

Didn't Cowher take his team to the AFC Championship game 6 out of the 12 years he was HC? Wouldn't call that average

Exactly. Cowher is a much better HC than Chuckie.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

I’m not so sure this is an auto slam dunk for Cowher, though of course he would be a welcome sight at Dolphin camp. I actually think Gruden is the smarter of the two, and he’s a pretty hot motivator in his own right. I also think Gruden may be hungrier at this point in his career, and would work just as hard as Cowher, and maybe ever harder.

Based on the composition of our roster I believe they are both good fits, though I believe Chuckie is the superior coach dealing with QB’s. Plus, Gruden seems a bit more creative and adaptable than Cowher. They would both produce a tough football team, though the absolute toughness curve tends to go in Cowher’s direction.

Personally, I think they are both great prospects for us. That’s a really hard choice IMO. I guess it might come down to peripheral connections. For example, if we can keep Nolan I’d tend to go with Gruden – because he’s more of an offensive minded HC than Cowher.

Last, and this is a big point, Cowher had an amazing staff in Pitts and was surrounded with great personal and an top notch front office. Couple that with the fact he didn’t win it all until he got big Ben.

Take Chuckie and let’s roll!

Or get Cowher and let’s party!

Whatever. Just do something exciting. Do it now!

Chuckie's teams always regressed.


Cowher left as a superbowel winner.


Not even close to a debate. Cowher is better....by far.

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Quote:

"And his replacement stepped right in an won right away. So how "critical" was Cowher? "


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That is the worst argument I have ever seen on this board.

You do realize the same thing happened with Barry Switzer in Dallas, right!?

But everybody realized that was Jimmy Johnson's team.

Same thing in Pittsburgh, that was Cowher's team. He built it.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

I think Gruden is a really good coach.

I just think Cowher is a *GREAT* coach.


No matter what the circumstances put before Cowher, I can never imagine a team coached by him getting worse.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

Well, I respect your opinion. You know that you and me are buds.


End the end, you might be right, but, I just think Cowher is better.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

I do know this, Tampa Bay players gave up on Gruden. He lost the team.



I can never see Cowher losing control of his team.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

ghotirule Wrote:
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> Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> -----
> > I think Gruden is a really good coach.
> >
> > I just think Cowher is a *GREAT* coach.
> >
> >
> > No matter what the circumstances put before
> > Cowher, I can never imagine a team coached by
> him
> > getting worse.
>
>
> 1997 Team loses the AFC Championship. 1998 and
> 1999 teams out of the playoffs with losing
> records.
>
> His teams do get worse. And then better again.
>
So did Shula's. Worse...then Better. Nowadays it's rare that a coach stays on long enough to have their team get better, though.