Why is Knowshon Moreno, Matt Forte, Ray Rice, Jamaal Charles, Peyton Hillis, and LeSean McCoy not highlighted?


There are a bunch of other RB's I would say are successful picks, but didnt want to list all of them. Just wondering why they are not highlighted.

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" And Moreno isn't highlighted because there's no way Denver wastes a the 12th pick on him again if that draft were today."


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Maybe not. But, the guy is a really good player.

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Well, consider the team as well.

He has 700 yards rushing, and 400 yards recieving in 11 games. 8 total TD's.......again, all in 11 games.


Pretty good, I would say. Not great, but, pretty good.

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mcfadden would have been a big time bust had you done this list in August

The 2009 1st round WR list is actually pretty interesting because I think that both Britt and Crabtree should be considered successful picks.

Britt's been battling injuries but still has 7 TDs in 10 games this season and a ridiculous 18+ YPC in an offense that's just been a trainwreck at times. The guy's a playmaker.

Crabtree's been good, though his numbers aren't that great. Considering that it has mostly been Alex Smith throwing him the ball, that's understandable. He's a pretty solid WR stuck on an imploding shipwreck of a team.

Really, I think the only bust out of that group is Heyward-Bey, a guy who really is just flat out awful. Al Davis just loves his track stars

I Would say Greg Jennings is a success.

Great Statistics except: Your numbers are wrong in that you added:

RB: Moreno, Forte, Hills, Jones-Drew, Brown, C. Williams, Portis, and Westbrook as not good picks, all these were excellent picks, outside of a bad injury these guys are having great careers. C'mon man, Maurice Jones-Drew, Clinton Portis, Brian Westbrook, these are Pro-Bowlers.

As for the WR's: Britt is Tennessee, Sidney is Minnesota (Pro Bowler), Greg Jennining is GB, Brandon Marshall is an All Pro, Colton most consistent for NO, A.Bolden (Pro Bowler), Steve Smith (Pro Bowler), Chad Johson (pro bowler), I just cant see leaving these guys off.

I tried doing an analysis like this a few years back. You have to use a more objective scoring method. Jake Long was a great pick. Left Tackle might be the hardest position to fill.

For a quick and dirty measure, i used whether or not a player had ever been to the probowl. A much better indicator (but far more time consuming) would be to see how many standard deviations above the mean a player's statistics are averaged out over his career.

For offensive and defensive linemen there are websites like profootballfocus.com which have come up with statistics for these positions that are not so easy to grade.

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I dont agree with that. QB, a *GOOD* QB, is the hardest thing to find.

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Aqua, I say that because it is almost unheard of to find even a starter quality left tackle after round 3, whereas many good QBs are found in the later rounds.

I had no qualms at the time and still do not second guess the decision to take Long with the first pick in 2008.

I didnt mean to imply it was easy. I was emphasizing how difficult it is to find a quality LT.

The difficulty in finding a LT stems from the size and girth of those guys. Finding someone as big as Jake Long who can move like him is one in a million. On the other hand, QBs come in a variety of heights and weights and are successful. So, just statistically, it SHOULD BE easier to find a QB than a LT.

it's easier to get a LT than a QB. A very high percentage of LTs taken in the top 10 pan out to pro bowl or 10 year starter level. as has been hashed out her and elsewhere, the percentage of QBs drafted top 10 who do that is much smaller.

>>>>it's easier to get a LT than a QB. A very high percentage of LTs taken in the top 10 pan out to pro bowl or 10 year starter level. as has been hashed out her and elsewhere, the percentage of QBs drafted top 10 who do that is much smaller.<<<<

Good point. I amend my previous statement. It isnt "easier" to find a QB than an LT, just that it is almost impossible to find good LTs late in the draft, whereas great QBs have been found on Day 2.

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"whereas great QBs have been found on Day 2"



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Not many. Right!?

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