Henne's record while starting in a 21 game evaluation process.
Enough time for the FO to make a decision and cast an initial judgement about their 09 2nd rounder.
By now I'd think it should be easy to tell if Henne has "it" or not.
Guys either have "it" or they don't. The "it" factor isn't something that can be learned or coached, it's inherent.

You are what your record says you are.

Chad Henne: 11-10. Time for a change.
Could actually be very beneficial for Henne's developement.

Good move Sparano!

5-18.......Peyton Mannings 1st 21 games starting.......what's your point?

How could ANYONE possibly use Henne and Payton Manning in the same sentence?

I have to wonder if some around here are Henne fans as opposed to Miami Dolhin fans?

I mean get real. Henne compared to Manning???



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/11/2010 12:04PM by BigNastyFish.

If you're trying to compare Chad Henne to Peyton Manning, God love ya!

Peyton coming in had absolutely nothing around him.

Didn't Troy Aikman go 1-15 his first year? Henne was 9-7 in his first 16
games.

So by you're logic, Henne will turn out better than both!!
What was I thinking??!! Next stop HOF!!

He is not comparing the two. He is bringing up the very valid point that it takes time for most QBs to develop.

Do you even remember Payton Manning when he first started? Talk about deer in the headlights. His release was big and slow also. His feet were all over. But, he was determined and put in the time and energy required to improve.

Some people here also said his brother stunk. What do you think now?

Now no one is saying the Henne will become a Manning.

The question is, will Henne put that kind of time and energy in? Can he become a good QB? One that can run an offense.

No one here is expert enough to know. So time will tell, not the Opinions of a fan.

Nope but you can compare the records. The point that it takes QB's a few years to really reach potential is true. ANd yes Peyton Manning is a great example of that..

Big Nasty-
get real, I have been Dolfan phan and 3rd Generation local south floridian. My family has been season tickets holders since the franchise opening day. Yeah my Grandparents, Parents and I all going to games together since I was born. I am among the 2% that already have Chad Pennington on my fantasy team, so obviously I like him.

Dont you ever dare call my loyalty to this team in to question because I challenge the wisdom of a questionable decision made by the coach.
You dont have enough Miami dolphins in your whole body that I have in my little pinky. Watch your mouth. If you want to act like a little sissy, Calling out peoples loyalty like this, I can surely make it a point to treat you like a sissy and question your loyalty from now on.

We might not all agree, but saying people are not loyal to this team as you described, based on the Henne benching, has no place around here

The absolute BEST you could say about Henne at this point is that he didn't lose a few games. But he didn't WIN any. Whatever success (in terms of wins) he’s had is because of the ground game and some opportunistic play.

This year Henne has been totally exposed due to the ground game not making it happen consistently. And the odds are Henne will either throw a lame check-down for minus yards, an incompletion or int to kill a drive. His only consistency has been inconsistency.

The pineapple upside down cake he threw towards Fasano in the end zone was just TOO MUCH for the coaches to ignore. That wasn’t even a bad high school throw…

Now if you think he’s shown enough production on the field to warrant future “stardom” or even to be a top 10 NFL QB – I recommend some therapy and perhaps better drugs.

At this point ALL SIGNS indicate Henne is a flop. A bust. Just another name on a long list of college QB’s who failed at the NFL level. The odds are Henne is history. He’s had good coaching and Pennington was about the best possible mentor the kid could ever have. But that doesn’t matter because he can’t get the job done. Finito.

Yo Crowder, stop it you’re scaring me!

Perhaps you're taking this a tad too serious?

It's all about a game isn't it?

No need for a stroke or aneurism.

BigNastyFish Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The absolute BEST you could say about Henne at
> this point is that he didn't lose a few games. But
> he didn't WIN any.

RESPONSE: And you can say the same about every other element of our game including defense, play calling, receiving, blocking, running....etc. (Am I dealing again with one of these the quarterback is responsible for everything people?)


Whatever success (in terms of
> wins) he’s had is because of the ground game and
> some opportunistic play.

RESPONSE: So he completed absolutely no passes and if he did, he only completed passes in drives that were stopped and produced no field goals or running touchdowns and he had no dropped balls and ,,, and.... and (and everything good was because of someone other than Henne and everything bad by the team was his fault).


>
> This year Henne has been totally exposed due to
> the ground game not making it happen consistently.
> And the odds are Henne will either throw a lame
> check-down for minus yards, an incompletion or int
> to kill a drive. His only consistency has been
> inconsistency.

RESPONSE: And sit back and watch Penny take sacks until even he is tired and then he will force himself and throw weak floaters that will be picked off.

I'm not surmising and analyzing....I'm damn remembering what he used to do (and then with a set of younger running backs and a wildcat offense that was new to the game and having other teams scratch their heads).
>
> The pineapple upside down cake he threw towards
> Fasano in the end zone was just TOO MUCH for the
> coaches to ignore. That wasn’t even a bad high
> school throw…

RESPONSE: I don't remember him not being rushed and about to be sacked. I don't remember him standing flat footed and rubbing his chin.

I don't remember that Fasano's coverage was standing between him and Henne so that if he threw it short it would be picked off.

I also don't remember it not being a DUMB ASS PLAY anyway since we should have just run the f'ing ball in from THE ONE INCH LINE.

It's incredible! In all the three prior losses, you guys have had nothing, not a single play to blame on Henne, and he fails to complete one pass in a play that should never have been a pass in the first place and even his miss on the pass was a "good miss" since he threw it long and avoided the interception, and you guys come out of the woodwork and all fixate on that one play.

>
> Now if you think he’s shown enough production on
> the field to warrant future “stardom” or even
> to be a top 10 NFL QB – I recommend some therapy
> and perhaps better drugs.

RESPONSE: Take it yourself buddy. We will cut Henne (unless the ownership fires this whole stupid regime) and he WILL go to a team with receivers that can catch the f'ing ball instead of dropping it and he will be a success in this league. Only not for the Dolphins.


>
> At this point ALL SIGNS indicate Henne is a flop.
> A bust.

RESPONSE: You are such a bad judge of talent. Everybody has mentioned Marino. I lost an argument on this board when I said that Henne's passes had more velocity than Marino.

Someone proved me wrong by stats showing that Marino threw something like 95 mph and Henne throws at 93 mph.

Now, that is my lead up to get you to think one damn logical point. Do you think that the receivers on this team could catch Marino if Henne's balls are too hot for them to catch and hold on to?????????


Just another name on a long list of
> college QB’s who failed at the NFL level. The
> odds are Henne is history. He’s had good
> coaching and Pennington was about the best
> possible mentor the kid could ever have. But that
> doesn’t matter because he can’t get the job
> done. Finito.

RESPONSE: There are none so blind as he could REFUSES TO SEE.

Chryen, I may not agree with everything you say but you got the logic and philosophy down, bro! Most times I have to read your post twice to understand what you're saying.

Chryen, Very nice response.

There isn't one freaking person on this board that can evaluate talent enough to say what Henne's future will be.

I could predict that 90% of QBs coming out of the draft will fail to become a "franchise" QB and would be correct.
So what the hell does that prove.

Point is, stop predicting with such certainty. You all should be pulling for him. He is a Miami Dolphin you know.
And no I'm not a huge fan of his, I'm a Miami Dolphin Fan.

ChyrenB Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> BigNastyFish Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The absolute BEST you could say about Henne at
> > this point is that he didn't lose a few games.
> But
> > he didn't WIN any.
>
> RESPONSE: And you can say the same about every
> other element of our game including defense, play
> calling, receiving, blocking, running....etc. (Am
> I dealing again with one of these the quarterback
> is responsible for everything people?)
>
>
> Whatever success (in terms of
> > wins) he’s had is because of the ground game
> and
> > some opportunistic play.
>
> RESPONSE: So he completed absolutely no passes
> and if he did, he only completed passes in drives
> that were stopped and produced no field goals or
> running touchdowns and he had no dropped balls and
> ,,, and.... and (and everything good was because
> of someone other than Henne and everything bad by
> the team was his fault).
>
>
> >
> > This year Henne has been totally exposed due to
> > the ground game not making it happen
> consistently.
> > And the odds are Henne will either throw a lame
> > check-down for minus yards, an incompletion or
> int
> > to kill a drive. His only consistency has been
> > inconsistency.
>
> RESPONSE: And sit back and watch Penny take sacks
> until even he is tired and then he will force
> himself and throw weak floaters that will be
> picked off.
>
> I'm not surmising and analyzing....I'm damn
> remembering what he used to do (and then with a
> set of younger running backs and a wildcat offense
> that was new to the game and having other teams
> scratch their heads).
> >
> > The pineapple upside down cake he threw towards
> > Fasano in the end zone was just TOO MUCH for
> the
> > coaches to ignore. That wasn’t even a bad
> high
> > school throw…
>
> RESPONSE: I don't remember him not being rushed
> and about to be sacked. I don't remember him
> standing flat footed and rubbing his chin.
>
> I don't remember that Fasano's coverage was
> standing between him and Henne so that if he threw
> it short it would be picked off.
>
> I also don't remember it not being a DUMB ASS PLAY
> anyway since we should have just run the f'ing
> ball in from THE ONE INCH LINE.
>
> It's incredible! In all the three prior losses,
> you guys have had nothing, not a single play to
> blame on Henne, and he fails to complete one pass
> in a play that should never have been a pass in
> the first place and even his miss on the pass was
> a "good miss" since he threw it long and avoided
> the interception, and you guys come out of the
> woodwork and all fixate on that one play.
>
> >
> > Now if you think he’s shown enough production
> on
> > the field to warrant future “stardom” or
> even
> > to be a top 10 NFL QB – I recommend some
> therapy
> > and perhaps better drugs.
>
> RESPONSE: Take it yourself buddy. We will cut
> Henne (unless the ownership fires this whole
> stupid regime) and he WILL go to a team with
> receivers that can catch the f'ing ball instead of
> dropping it and he will be a success in this
> league. Only not for the Dolphins.
>
>
> >
> > At this point ALL SIGNS indicate Henne is a
> flop.
> > A bust.
>
> RESPONSE: You are such a bad judge of talent.
> Everybody has mentioned Marino. I lost an
> argument on this board when I said that Henne's
> passes had more velocity than Marino.
>
> Someone proved me wrong by stats showing that
> Marino threw something like 95 mph and Henne
> throws at 93 mph.
>
> Now, that is my lead up to get you to think one
> damn logical point. Do you think that the
> receivers on this team could catch Marino if
> Henne's balls are too hot for them to catch and
> hold on to?????????
>
>
> Just another name on a long list of
> > college QB’s who failed at the NFL level. The
> > odds are Henne is history. He’s had good
> > coaching and Pennington was about the best
> > possible mentor the kid could ever have. But
> that
> > doesn’t matter because he can’t get the job
> > done. Finito.
>
> RESPONSE: There are none so blind as he could
> REFUSES TO SEE.


Cryn your right about Henne not being a bust, and that it is premature to lable him as one.

HOWEVER thats right I was that guy you lost that argument too.




Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/11/2010 02:37PM by Mia1.

Errr....lost the argument???? By what standard are you declaring victory. By the fact that the coaches benched Henne.

That has nothing to do with our argument.

You don't think they were listening did you? You really don't think Henne was benched because of what you posted here...do you?

What? Dude I was talking about your remark about Henne only thorwing 93, while Marino throw's it 95.

CrynB are you reall Chad Henne? Is this why your so upset with everyone and essentially life, are you the real Chad Henne?

Its funny how when a legitimate stat is brought up comparing two QB's.....certain guys call foul due to that person being Peyton Manning. Ridiculous. It is a legitimate stat and argument....

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

Your right Aqua it is a bit Ridiculous at times, but cmon on it is fun to talk about though?