Adam Schefter is reporting we signed CB Al Harris this morning after a 7 am workout!

Nice!

The Jets will sign Jason Allen to get some inside info on the Phins and then cut him after about 4 days of absorbing all our info from him.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

Allen???!!! Why not waive Nate Ness?? I can't believe we let go of Jason Allen!! Wasn't he our starting CB just a couple weeks ago?

So, what happens if Harris gets hurt again?

Geez. I really have no idea what the hell Ireland is doing.

Yeah, I agree. Should have been Nate Ness.

Atleast Jason is good on special teams.

BTW, Harris is 35. Pretty old in CB standards. This one will be very interesting to see play out.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

Signing Harris, okay, cutting Allen, just plan DUMB!!

Unless there is something we just don't know about. Now we are short again on special teams and have no real backup CB. Dam.

Fire Ireland and Henning!!! Give Sparano one more year.

Jason Allen in a nutshell: Dumb, fast.

Odenn Wrote:
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> Jason Allen in a nutshell: Dumb, fast.

Better and more versatile than Nate Ness. Are you ignoring all those INTs he had early in the year?

Could be a good signing for a year.Maybe his experience could help our young CB's

Somebody will pick him up.

If Jason Allen was the difference between our making the playoffs or not, we were doomed anyway. He had a nice start this season but regressed so badly that we were forced to play Sean Smith who isn't much better. Honestly, outside of special teams, he was a wasted roster space. If Harris' knee is sound, even at 35, he's a marginal upgrade.

This board is insufferable sometimes. One minute everybody is dying to see us sign Al Harris. The next minute everybody is pissed that we cut a perennial underachiever.

At least it is entertaining on some level...

Jason Allen deserved to be cut. He was given the opportunity to shine and he flubbed it up. Playing Special Teams is not hard folks, we don't need a No. 1 bust on our Special Teams. I hope they take this attitude and apply it to other positions on the field.

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Nice!
>
> The Jets will sign Jason Allen to get some inside
> info on the Phins and then cut him after about 4
> days of absorbing all our info from him.

Doubtful Jason remembers anything...

TheFutt Wrote:
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> This board is insufferable sometimes. One minute
> everybody is dying to see us sign Al Harris. The
> next minute everybody is pissed that we cut a
> perennial underachiever.
>
> At least it is entertaining on some level...

Underachiever, but still much better than other guys we kept. Please justify for me why we kept Nate Ness and dropped Jason Allen. ANYONE?

Quote:

"Playing Special Teams is not hard folks"


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Ok, fine then. I want to see you return a kick or be on the kickoff team.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

I think it's similar to Ginn - throwing the baby out with the bathwater. The front office/coaching staff sees that someone isn't capable of doing what they have in mind for the person, so they get rid of the person vs. maximizing their potential and minimizing exposure to their weaknesses. I think that it's possibly a philosophical approach more than anything...a willingness to throw the baby out with the bathwater and being ok with it. As a fan, I, like many others, consider Allen vs. Ness on ST and see it differently than the decision makers.

We've thrown enough babies out with the bathwater to start a nursery ... but truth know, I don't think we lost much in this case.

Jason allen has not bee teachable with more thna enough time trying.

It does however seem that the FO uses firings to back up that they are doing something (anything) ... these decsiions should have been resolved much earlier

I'm beginning to question the secondary coaching skills of this coaching staff

Of course they will cut Allen I MEAN its like one great move offsetted by another dumb one it's how it works.

Lol YEAH THEY FINALY HEARD ME AND signed a F/A albieght a OLD one lol...

Doesnt get any better than Harris, the leadership is going to help 2 FOLD BACK THERE.

Sparano explained it like this
Vontae Davis, Sean Smith, Benny Sapp, Al Harris, and Jason Allen. Guess who became the last guy in the rotation. Dumping Benny Sapp after giving up Camarillo for him would have created flack. My guess, it was a toss up between Sapp and Allen, and they went with Allen

Crowder52 Wrote:
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> Sparano explained it like this
> Vontae Davis, Sean Smith, Benny Sapp, Al Harris,
> and Jason Allen. Guess who became the last guy in
> the rotation. Dumping Benny Sapp after giving up
> Camarillo for him would have created flack. My
> guess, it was a toss up between Sapp and Allen,
> and they went with Allen

Did he just forget about Nate Ness?! Also, we haven't even worked out Al Harris, yet he's already penciled in, at least, as our dime DB. That's just about as short sighted as you can get.

So, what happens if (or when) Al Harris gets injured??!

I think Ness, was considered a back up at safety as well as CB. Sparano said he couldn't get Allen dressed,

Crowder52 Wrote:
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> Sparano said he couldn't get Allen
> dressed,

The dude still couldn't dress himself? I didn't realize he was THAT dumb. Wow. Good thing we got rid of him.

montequi Wrote:
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> The dude still couldn't dress himself? I didn't
> realize he was THAT dumb. Wow. Good thing we got
> rid of him.


that was pretty good.
I dont entirely understand it either, I thought Jason Allen was having a decent year, Something else must have happened behind closed doors that we are unaware. Cause I agree that somebody else beside Allen should have been cut. Maybe Jason didnt take it well when he lost his spot to Sean Smith. Maybe he was unhappy because they were not offering him an extension, who knows, but I dont think it was based on play alone, He seemed like one of the only players in the secondary that could actually catch the ball this year.

No? Well, the "special" teams just got worse, and they were pretty terrible to begin with. This guy can tackle, something we didn't see very much of last week.

Rick

I remember seeing hilliard and and cobbs on a lot of tackles on special teams lately not allen.