If Henne goes for 4k+ I'll need a tissue. And not for my nose.

You can use my sleeve Odenn, because I would be using yours.

Totally there with you...his presence has me juiced for its impact to really all other facets of the team...definitely henna.

I also see hartline improving on an impressive rookie debut

His presence will help all areas of the offense, but I look for the great improvement in the other wide receivers.

Look for Bess & Camerillio to greatly improve.

I dont think Camarillo will improve to much, wasnt he on here when we had Chambers? He is the slowest of the bunch. Well one of the slowest with sure hands, and runs decent routs, but Hartline, and Bess should see solid increases, where as I can see Camarillo as a more or less third down option.

Mia1 Wrote:
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> I dont think Camarillo will improve to much, wasnt
> he on here when we had Chambers? He is the slowest
> of the bunch. Well one of the slowest with sure
> hands, and runs decent routs, but Hartline, and
> Bess should see solid increases, where as I can
> see Camarillo as a more or less third down option.

How quickly people forget. Camarillo was a start WR in Sparano's first season and lead the team in receiving a number of games. Before his injury Cam was faster that Bess. If Cam is 100% this year, I think we'll surprise a lot of people, including you.

Mia1 Wrote:
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> You can use my sleeve Odenn, because I would be
> using yours.


LOL LOL LOL...he ain't talking about sneezing bro!!

I know fellas, I'm glad you got a good chuckle! Because I did!! Squirt squirt!!

" Is that hair gel?"

Yeah wayne has Manning throwing him the ball ALOT, so he is overrated.

Marshall is underated, and Calvin Johnson on a better team would be number 1 to me, he has it all, then Marshall, then FitzGerald, then Andrea Johnson, then Randy Moss.

Wayne overrated...ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah ok.

I think he is. Mikeo, you don't have too, and thats fine.

Personally I feel he is around the 6th, maybe 7th best out there, and Bennefits with the best passer in the game, and on a team where passing is what they do.

If Wayne is overrated simply because he has a great QB throwing him the ball, by that same logic Jerry Rice sucked!

It makes zero sense that logic.

No thats not the only reason why, the other is, he doesnt do as well in double coverage, as the other's I mentioned. IMHO, but hey its just that.

I think it is widely accepted that if Montana were on any other team, he wouldn't have likely been "great". He's a smart guy, but had the luxury of playing on a team with a great running game on o-line, and was in a system that hid his weaknesses.

Brandon Marshall means that we're going to kick some major ass this year! Stamped, mailed and delivered. It's on baby!!!

DolfanMike Wrote:
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> I think it is widely accepted that if Montana were
> on any other team, he wouldn't have likely been
> "great". He's a smart guy, but had the luxury of
> playing on a team with a great running game on
> o-line, and was in a system that hid his
> weaknesses.


That statement is so silly. You must be kidding. Montana is one of the greatest QB's ever. Probably the best "BIG GAME" QB ever

Yeah I agree with Mikeo, but Marino is the greastest hehehe!!

MikeO Wrote:
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> That statement is so silly. You must be kidding.
> Montana is one of the greatest QB's ever. Probably
> the best "BIG GAME" QB ever

He played on a great team, and that made him great.

You obviously weren't around for the "if Marino and Montana were traded" arguments going on in the 80's. General consensus is that Montana would get much worse while Marino would win Super Bowls.

I was around, and it was a dumb argument then and its even dumber now!! Why can't both be great! You put Montana on the Dolphins and he is still in Canton. To think otherwise is insane.

Montana went to KC on a garbage offense with little to no help and had them in the AFC Championship game. The guy was a winner his entire career.

Only on THIS message board does a guy with 4 Super Bowl rings and a 3 time Super Bowl MVP like Joe Montana does someone say he wasn't "great".

I won't deny that Montana was great. I actually think Steve Young was overrated, along with Troy Aikman. Both played on teams that were loaded. Montana, on the other hand, won a Superbowl with SF without Jerry Rice and a number of other guys on that dynasty team.

montequi Wrote:
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> I won't deny that Montana was great. I actually
> think Steve Young was overrated, along with Troy
> Aikman. Both played on teams that were loaded.
> Montana, on the other hand, won a Superbowl with
> SF without Jerry Rice and a number of other guys
> on that dynasty team.

In the SB without Rice, the Defense was there. The offensive line was in place. Montana threw a lot to Dwight Clark. I'm not denying that Montana is a great QB. All I'm saying that if he were on any other team, its very likely he wouldn't have been considered "great".

He was on a team that thrived on short quick timing passes. It was a perfect system for Montana, and without that system Montana would have been ordinary.

MikeO, stop ridiculing other's opinions. Disagree with them all you want, that's what we're here for, but ridicule is over the top and out of bounds.

Rick

Joe Montana was magic. Anyone that watched him play knows this. Like MO said, he was pretty darn good even when he went to KC.

I don't see him ever being ordinary. He is one of the top 5 QB's of all time IMO...and very close to the top if not number 1.

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