Cleveland is retooling the roster drastically in one season under Holmgren. I look for them to be much improved this year with Delhomme having a very good year. They still need a true #1 WR but have some decent young guys in the fold.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, I don't know what the heck the Eagles are thinking. They traded away the CB that they raved about last year as the guy who made Lito Sheppard expendable. Now the only decent CB they have is Asante Samuel. They don't have Jim Johnson anymore either.

They are trying to move McNabb. I don't care what anyone says, he is a franchise QB and Kolb has a small body of work.

4 TD's and 7 ints is all he has in three years. They also traded a LB'er who is not great but they are weak at the position in the first place.

I don't know what QB needy teams are thinking. I would snap McNabb up in a heartbeat and rework a contract. I would have killed for that opportunity 3 years ago for Miami. He is coming off one of his best years and they are just now getting some outside weapons on offense...and now they want to get rid of him.?????

I look for Cle to improve and Philly to decline in 2010.

I only bring this up bc it has an effect on the draft. Cleveland is more likely to pass on Haden now and could go for Berry or Bryant or Spiller.

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there was a RUMOR that Miami might swap picks with Dallas in Rd 1 and Miami would pick up either Patrick Crayton or Marion Barber

Barber I don't buy, Crayton I could see.....but this is just a RUMOR and I would say its a WEAK RUMOR at best

Cleveland played hard for Mangini at the end of last year and they won a few games for him as well.

And I think Senneca Wallace will be the starter there next season. It will be a battle between he and Dellhome and I think Sennca might win that job.

We need to take Bryant swap him to them for Austin or their #2

Move Camarillo, Thigpen, & Smiley for picks 2-4 to go after a TE like Graham, Pitta, Harbor, and another LB like Spikes, Norwood

where'd you hear that rumor? crayton sucks and is their #2 receiver, why in the world would we move down to the bottom of the first round for him? makes 0 sense

Crayton could be part of the package, but if it's just Crayton I say no way.

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> where'd you hear that rumor? crayton sucks and is
> their #2 receiver, why in the world would we move
> down to the bottom of the first round for him?
> makes 0 sense


Some Cowboys Blog guy had it. He said he got the rumor from a Fins insider. That is why I say its a WEAK rumor. Seems too watered down and 4th or 5th hand word being passed around

Crayton is their #3 WR, not #2

I know, I mistyped. Makes it even more crazy that anyone would think we'd plausibly make that deal. The only person who makes deals like that is Wanny/Speilman (L Gordon, AJ Feeley, blech)

Actually Crayton is their 4th WR if you wanna count Witten has a higher passing option before Crayton

MikeO Wrote:
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> there was a RUMOR that Miami might swap picks with
> Dallas in Rd 1 and Miami would pick up either
> Patrick Crayton or Marion Barber
>
> Barber I don't buy, Crayton I could see.....but
> this is just a RUMOR and I would say its a WEAK
> RUMOR at best


give me some extra picks rather than there players and i dont have
a problem with dropping down in the 1st round ,be nice to get a extra pick in the 2nd or 3rd round in this deep filled draft!!!!!!!!!

McNabb to WASHINGTON is a done deal

Pick #37 this year. And a 3rd or 4th in 2011

so for 2nd round pick which we have used on guys like AJ Feeley, John Beck, and Pat White....the Skins got Donavon McNabb!!!

crazy to trade in division.
this makes it likely that clausen goes to buff, or maybe drops to us at 12 for a trade down? anyone after us need a QB?

Im not against trading in the division. The best deal is the best deal. I don't care who its from. Bledsoe went to Buffalo and all it did was kill Buffalo even more.

McNabb isnt what he once was and isn't getting younger. He never won a big game in Philly, so the Philly people know best he ain't gonna win a big game in Washington with that sorry bunch on offense.

I mean McNabb can still play but for those 2 picks, I would send a guy in the division and not worry.

Trading Camarillo and Smiley is a good idea. Tossing in Thigpen? At the right price it could work well.

All 3 of them are on the roster bubble.

If the Bills take Claussen then they could give as a 2nd rounder (41st) and acquire help at OL, WR, and some insurance at QB.

Depends on your definition of "big game". It you mean THE big game, then, no. He did have to win some big games to even get there, you know.

Rick

1-4 in NFC Championship games

0-1 in Super Bowl

Those are big games, 1-5 record!

Those record numbers remind me of Jim Kelly.

Odenn Wrote:
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> Those record numbers remind me of Jim Kelly.

Pretty sure Kelly was 4-0 in AFC Championship games, although he WAS 0-4 in Superbowls. The amazing thing I still think about those Buffalo teams is they lost the 4 Superbowls IN-A-ROW!!! Has that ever happened in any other professional sport?

Monty didn't the Vikes lose a bunch in the 70's? Not sure if they were in a row though.

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> Monty didn't the Vikes lose a bunch in the 70's?
> Not sure if they were in a row though.

Denver is 2nd in losses, I think. Vikes may be 3rd. No one else has lost 4 in a row.

Phinsfan2 Wrote:
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> montequi Wrote:
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> > dolphaholic Wrote:
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> > > Monty didn't the Vikes lose a bunch in the
> > 70's?
> > > Not sure if they were in a row though.
> >
> > Denver is 2nd in losses, I think. Vikes may be
> > 3rd. No one else has lost 4 in a row.
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>
> The Bills lost 4 straight in the early 1990's.
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> Minnesota lost 4 in the 1970's.
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> Denver and Miami are next with 3 losses each.

Denver lost 4:

SB12: 27-10 Dallas over Denver
SB21: 39-20 NY Giants over Denver
SB22: 42-10 Washington over Denver
SB24: 55-10 San Francisco over Denver

montequi Wrote:
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> Odenn Wrote:
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> > Those record numbers remind me of Jim Kelly.
>
> Pretty sure Kelly was 4-0 in AFC Championship
> games, although he WAS 0-4 in Superbowls. The
> amazing thing I still think about those Buffalo
> teams is they lost the 4 Superbowls IN-A-ROW!!!
> Has that ever happened in any other professional
> sport?


The 1990 Bills team that lost to the Giants is the BEST team to not win a Super Bowl. That team was loaded. Their offense that season was un-stopable. I consider it the best offensive unit of all time.

The Giants had a long drive before halftime....then there was a long halftime show....then the Giants had a long drive after halftime. The Bills offense never saw the field for like an hour and a half or something....totally killed their rythem or momentum. If you don't have a long halftime, they win that game in a walk.

That team was loaded on both sides of the ball, especially on offense!!

Think of it. 4 straight SB appearances and 4 straight losses. Not only was that a great team, they had one of the greatest coaches of all time.

What team won 4 straight NFL championships? Green Bay Packers. Another great coach.