jones and taylor headed back in 2010?
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dolphan4545 Wrote:
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> We can all read. Just give us the links, and your
> opinions of the stories. We'll take it from there.
moley is probably posting that way because in a previous thread I asked him to limit his quotations to a few lines. So please make fun of me, not him.
I'm not trying to make fun of anybody. I can read the articles he's quoting, so I'm not so much interested in what these published reports say (I have, or will, read them), I'm interested in what he - and you, and anybody - have to say about them.
Rick
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/25/2010 10:09AM by dolphan4545.
I think the coaches were so leery of rocking the boat with Porter that JT suffered for it. There is no way anyone can convince me that Taylor could not have done better on the weak side than Porter did.
He had 42 tackles 7 sacks 1 int and 3 FF's with 1 TD playing on the strong side. Most would consider that a down year for Taylor but doing it on the strong side and the fact that he only played on the first two downs late in the year, is pretty darn good.
Porter had only 2 more sacks at a position that is designed to get sacks, with the same amount of tackles and only 1 FF.
The part that confuses me is why he was taken out of the game. Possible to get Wake more experience but to use the NFL's best pass rusher as a run stuffing SOLB is a little stupid.
I think he still has the stamina and skills to play full time. I would like to see how Wakes progresses in coverage and against the run this off season and then hopefully be able to utilize both in some way. Realistically Wake will end up being a pass rush specialist and we will need a true SOLB for first and second downs.
Hopefully Nolan can make better use of Wake and Taylor than Pasqualoni did having to deal with Porter and his "me first" attitude...refusing to come off the field.
Taylor can plan the run well, is ok in coverage and is a pass rush stud.
Wake can only pass rush
Walden , Moses and Anderson are limited as well.
We need some run stuffing OLB's on both ends so JT and Wake can come in on passing downs. JT on the weak side and Wake on the other. JT should play full time and only get spelled on running downs on occasion to save his legs.
We should draft an all around WOLB to learn from JT so he can take over in 2011 and JT can go out the way he deserves.
This was a guy the coaches loved up until the incident in question. He was set to be a starter. Why else would they cut him outright if there wasn't a problem?
Point is, Roth was injured and didn't want to play injured in a contract year. The coaches wanted him to suck it up and get out there. Roth went to his own doctor and got his own report and didn't listen to the coaches and rush back. There was the bad blood. Was he faking, probably not cause if caught that would have exiled him from the NFL and from 32 teams. But if it helps you sleep well at night to think the Fins did nothing wrong and matt roth is a big-fat faker....lol, go ahead!!
And WHEN he got to Cleveland he played very very well.
I can't prove there are little green men on Mars either. Wanna play this dumb game all day??? Grow up!!
I thought they let him go because of the money...because they didn't want to pay him. If he couldn't leave for 2 more years anyway, what kind of money was he expecting?
My understanding is that currently, players reach unrestricted free agency after four years of service. If the salary cap goes away, that number becomes six years. Instead of being an unrestricted FA, he would instead become a restricted free agent, which means that Miami can restrict his rights for relatively small salary. So, while he might earn $5+ million per year in free agency, the Phins could tender him, requiring a first-round pick in return, for I believe less than 1/2 that amount. Was he playing a game of chicken with the coaches and front office? "Pay me even though it doesn't look like you'll have to with the way the CBA negotiations are going"
They did play him a bit after PUP. He wasn't brilliant, wasn't awful, per my recollection. Something had to have happened that caused them to feel it was necessary to let him go. I am not convinced it was the money. The fact that he played well in CLE almost immediately after his release and that he didn't stand much chance of cashing in given the CBA situation certainly makes it seem like he might have at least over-dramatized his injury when he was unable to make any significant healing progress during training camp after a very surprising and apparently inexplicable groin injury right before training camp that led to his being placed on the PUP. If it wasn't the money, and he was healthy and we had a need for a run-stopping OLB, then what happened? My guess is that it was an issue of integrity and that Sparano, et al have a line - which I believe they should - that cannot be crossed as it relates to a player's integrity. I can't prove it, but circumstantially that appears to be the most likely of the injury/$$$/integrity options.