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I heard some rumblings several weeks ago that the Lions might be interested in trading off Calvin Johnson this offseason. I don't know a lot about this guy, but I have heard some good things, and his 6'5", 236 lb. 24 year-old body seem to fit Parcells's requirements. The guy has size and speed, and if we get a chance at him it would seem we've got to take it if the price isn't too steep. Is this a viable option? With a talented young QB, why would they get rid of Johnson if he's as good as I've been told? The Stafford guy needs targets. So, what do I not know? What am I missing?
Ok, this is what you are missing..... that will never happen. They drafted Matthew Stafford to match him up with Johnson for the next 12 years....not to trade Johnson away after the first.
Not a dream, just speculation. I would be flabbergasted if it happened, it doesn't make much sense, but that is what I heard. By the way, who shot it down, and when? I hadn't heard about that.
I think Anquan Boldin is a real possibility for Miami. I even think if you wanna take the risk and roll the dice on a one-time drug offender (per NFL rules)in Dwayne Bowe he may be available. But he's one failed drug test away from a year suspension.
I mean if you want Boldin though you are gonna have to part with a 1st round pick minimum. No two ways about it. You can thank Jerry Jones for giving a 1st and 3rd for Roy Williams for setting that price tag.
2010 will be uncapped, so no real free agents on the market worth adding that will improve anything. It's gonna have to be via trade.
I think our best shot is Bowe, because of parcells connections in KC. I would love to have Bowe and I am sure so would Henne! If we get anyone from Arizona it should be Breaston I am sure Henne would like that as well.
With the problems in the Detroit economy, why don't they just trade him for cash or, better yet, ask the federal government to buy the Lions instead. Then they'll lose every game every year for sure!
With FA being a relative unknown, draft picks become even more important than they already were for building a team. For Calvin Johnson, I would give up a nice draft pick, but not the 1st, 3rd and 6th the 'boys gave up for Williams.
I feel like I'm going out on a very short limb considering the likelihood of this ever coming to fruition, but I would give them our 2010 first for him in a heartbeat. I don't think any receiver of his proven talent would be available to us in the draft. I would even throw in Camarillo so that they'd have a dependable WR option. The one thing I wouldn't do is make Ginn part of the trade. I have been utterly disappointed by him so many times, but I'm literally salivating at the prospect of seeing what he might do if the D is forced to focus on someone like Calvin Johnson. That TD last Sunday and the one against the Jets...something no one else on our roster can do.
I just want to vomit at the thought of us getting someone like johnson to give Ginn more chances to drop balls. Now if he learns how to hold on to the ball this offseason that would change everything!
I agree. If we get Johnson, Ginn will have to go. I'd like to see Johnson and Hartline as starters, Bess in the slot, and (old reliable) Camarillo on 3rd downs.
Here is a novel idea, why dont we draft a quality recievers like great teams like the colts and steelers do and build through the draft rather than wasting money on over hyped free agents...
Because that novel idea may include getting a Jamarcus Russell type. How would you feel about that. Bowe outside of the team he is on is a big, great WR and we need to get him before him and Cassle get to know eachother and he gets really $$$$.
But what Reppa is saying is true. The great teams have done the research and built their franchises through the draft....not a guy playing hard for 1 season during a "contract year" then never playing hard again.
For example I am a huge joey porter fan but he cost like 20mill with 12 up front. We have wake for cheap and he could have done a similar job. We may have lost our intimidation factor and all things remaining the same (age inparticular) I would pick porter but they are not the same and we could have made out with wake and saved millions if we scouted properly.
As far as our receiving core we are one reciever away. If Dez were to slip to us we could be set... (Probably a pipe dream but anything is possible if san fran got crabtree)
Even with out him when I think that there are 120 college teams that all play about 3 recievers... That is over 400 WR prospects and you are telling me that you would rather pay millions for a guy that you hope will continue to produce rather than doing your scouting job and finding a star that can produce for you for the next decade?
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> Because that novel idea may include getting a
> Jamarcus Russell type...
Even I would not have drafted russell, i believe that his senior year at LSU he was either benched or on the verge of being benched and to think that one good proformace in a conference championship game would then volt him to #1 is rediculous.
that was before this NEW injury. I mean at some point all these injuries add up and this one might be the straw the broke the camels back if he is now missing playoff games.
Timing is everything!! A trade i might have made a few days ago I might not make now. Nature of the beast