Assuming New England beats Buffalo, Miami would then need a 3 way tie to win the division and get the tiebreaker.

If Miami finishes tied with the Jets we obviously win the division. If we end up tied with New England though, the first two tie-breakers we PUSH, and the 3rd factor of tie-breaker we currently don't own over New England and proably won't pass them on.

So, we need a 3-way tie for first place and gotta hope the Jets keep pace with us. Meaning....lets all hope Sanchez's knee is ok!

I am hoping for the Pats to lose a few more.

Phins: 10-6
Pats: 9-0,

Then the dolphins to remove the undefeated Colts from the play-offs and then beat the undefeated Saints in the SB, 38 to 28.

It's been a good Sunday!

Whoops, I mean

Phins: 10-6
Pats: 9-7.

correction If the Pats lose to Buff and there is a three way tie with the Jets, New England loses to us by virtue of a 3-3 division record whereas our division record is 4-2.

We aren't actually all that bad off in tie breakers. If we win out and NE loses one more game and the game lost is to a conference oponent (they only non conference oponent they have is Carolina next week), Miami has the tie breaker. NE has the next tie breaker pretty handily (strength of Victory) because of the 59-0 Shut out of Houston.

I can't believe it. Pitt and Houston lost today. We still have to play Jax. I thought, for sure, we were out of it when we blew the Buffalo game.

Phinsfan2 Wrote:
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> MikeO Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Assuming New England beats Buffalo, Miami would
> > then need a 3 way tie to win the division and
> get
> > the tiebreaker.
> >
> > If Miami finishes tied with the Jets we
> obviously
> > win the division. If we end up tied with New
> > England though, the first two tie-breakers we
> > PUSH, and the 3rd factor of tie-breaker we
> > currently don't own over New England and
> proably
> > won't pass them on.
> >
> > So, we need a 3-way tie for first place and
> gotta
> > hope the Jets keep pace with us.
> Meaning....lets
> > all hope Sanchez's knee is ok!
>
>
> Not quite.
>
> It is true that if we finish is a 3 way tie with
> NE and NYJ we win the tiebreaker based on head to
> head winning %...we were 3-1 against the Jets and
> Pats. Pats are 2-2 and Jets 1-3.
>
> If we finish tied with NYJ we win the tiebreaker
> on head-to-head having swept them.
>
> If we finish tied with NE that will mean they need
> to lose one more game. They still play: CAR, @
> BUF, JAX and @ HOU.
>
> The first tiebreaker in a two team tie for the
> Division is head-to-head. We split so that
> doesn't settle it.
>
> 2nd tiebreaker between us and NE is DIVISION
> RECORD. Our division record is 4-2. The Pats
> will finish either 4-2 or 3-3 depending upon the
> outcome of their game in Buffalo in 2 weeks. If
> they lose to Buffalo we will win the tiebreaker
> based on division record.
>
> If they beat the Bills and get to 4-2 in the
> division the 3rd tiebreaker is COMMON GAMES.
> Excluding our division opponents we have 8 games
> in common with NE. Keeping in mind that we need
> to win all of our games to get to 10-6, and the
> Pats need to lose 1 game for this tiebreaker to
> even be necessary, the common opponents shape up
> like this: ATL, TEN, TB, INDY, NO, CAR, JAX, HOU.
>
>
> If we win out we'll be 5-3 among common opponents
> having beaten TB, CAR, JAX, HOU and TEN and having
> lost to ATL, NO and INDY.
>
> Assuming NE beats Buffalo and then lose one more
> game to force a tiebreaker with us, then that loss
> will be either CAR, JAX or HOU. That loss will
> make them 5-3 against common opponents. Losses
> to INDY, NO and either JAX/HOU/CAR. So we go to
> the 4th tiebreaker...
>
> The next tiebreaker is strength of victory.

The 4th tie breaker is conference record. As long as NE loses to some besided Carolina Miami will win that tie breaker.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> correction If the Pats lose to Buff and there is a
> three way tie with the Jets, New England loses to
> us by virtue of a 3-3 division record whereas our
> division record is 4-2.


NEW POST: Ooops, I missed the fact that your premise was that NE beats Buff.

montequi Wrote:
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> I can't believe it. Pitt and Houston lost today.
> We still have to play Jax. I thought, for sure,
> we were out of it when we blew the Buffalo game.


Houston is done.
Pitt is on the verge of being done.

I know we have to win out, so to say next weeks game is "big" is kinda dumb. But if we win next week the WILD CARD becomes very real.

Denver has 1 wild card locked up since they play nobody from here on out really. So, even if the division thing falls through we got hope

Forget wildcard... in my opinion we have a better chance at winning the divsion then getting in as a 6th seed. Because the way denver is playing that is the only spot that will be up for grabs.

MikeO Wrote:
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> > Pitt is on the verge of being done.

RESPONSE: The downside of this is that they will be fighing for their playoff lives when we play them in the last game whether we are fighting for the Division or a wild card because as you say below.....


MikeO Wrote:
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> I know we have to win out, so to say next weeks
> game is "big" is kinda dumb. But if we win next
> week the WILD CARD becomes very real.
>
> Denver has 1 wild card locked up since they play
> nobody from here on out really. So, even if the
> division thing falls through we got hope