yeah this concerns me about our new ownership. ross isn't "loaded" like some and needed lots of help buying the team. I wouldn't assume we would be in the "haves" side of the new have/have not world of the nfl

and losing the Marlins which pay rent and give Ross 81 home games a year and all the money that comes with having that stadium open 81 nights a year.........that hurts Ross even more.

Ross can't replace the 81 games the Marlins give him.

This is very bad news indeed.

its worse for Miami because Woody Johnson and Robert Kraft have deep pockets and an endless supply of money

Many teams will NOT survive without a cap.

Goodbye Buffalo, Cincy, St,Louis, Jacksonville,etc...small market teams will not survive and the NFL will not flourish under a MLB modeled league.

Let them try it and I'm telling you fans will walk!

An uncapped league is something I simply won't watch. Championships shouldn't be determined by which owner has the most cash ala New York Yanks.

knee-jerk reaction on my part, but if uncapped means that football goes the way of baseball, then I will lose interest overall. I'll always be a Phinphan, but I probably won't care as much.

I used to follow baseball passionately - an Oakland A's fan in the 80s and early 90s. Now, I have no idea who's good until the world series...who wins RoY, Cy, MVP, etc. I would probably turn down baseball tickets for a chance to watch ants build an anthill.

miamid45 Wrote:
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> Many teams will NOT survive without a cap.
>
> Goodbye Buffalo, Cincy, St,Louis,
> Jacksonville,etc...small market teams will not
> survive and the NFL will not flourish under a MLB
> modeled league.
>
Not just those. Perenial losers, like Detroit, will take a hit as well because of their small fan base. Look for the NYG to get a HUGE boost, and the Rams are going to regret leaving L.A.

Fans can say they will walk, but they won't. The NFL is a drug for most people in this country and saying you will not watch and actually doing so ....I don't buy it.

The league will change, the game will change....but to assume its for the worse its too early to tell

How are rules like this changed? Does every owner get a vote or what?

it was part of the last CBA. there was an opt-out clause after this upcoming year and the Owners are envoking the opt-out clause

So a majority of owners have to do this? Why would they do it if it will have a harmful effect on the poorer franchises. I mean who cares how much money if you end up with no one to compete against. These guys are elite business seems like they would see the same things we do.

MikeO Wrote:
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> Fans can say they will walk, but they won't. The
> NFL is a drug for most people in this country and
> saying you will not watch and actually doing so
> ....I don't buy it.
>
> The league will change, the game will
> change....but to assume its for the worse its too
> early to tell

That is the worst thing about the NFL. Always changing. Stats mean nothing if trying to compare teams and players over the years. The NFL is getting more and more boring as time goes on.
So what if a QB throws for a lot of yards or TDs. Can't even touch the little sissies. Same with the receivers. I think they should all start waring skirts.

I think this is just being used as leverage by the owners to get a better CBA. Also it is not a done deal b/c the union has challenged it, so we'll see. hopefully cooler heads prevail and the players and owners don't kill the golden goose

DVDon Wrote:
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> So a majority of owners have to do this? Why would
> they do it if it will have a harmful effect on the
> poorer franchises. I mean who cares how much money
> if you end up with no one to compete against.
> These guys are elite business seems like they
> would see the same things we do.


Owners care more about money than we do about winning. Remember with no salary cap there is also NO salary floor. Meaning teams can spend next to nothing on there roster and nobody can stop them. Meaning more $$$ into their bank accounts and pockets

It is only 100 million of 6.5 BILLION Dollar pool, the basic sharing structure of the NFL will stay the same.
IMO this is a negotiation tactic.

Time to regulate the NFL with the Government.

Or the Government could "make noise" like they plan to get involved, and then hopefully the owners adopt a more reasonable plan on their own.

This is a bad idea.... who wants a league of Jerry Jones et al. just buying up all the talent at any price to win.

No thanks.

Let me forewarn you, i know nothing about specifics and i may be entirely wrong in my thinking. However, I agree with Khaz that this is a negotiating tactic... this is union warfare at its best, and the NFL doesn't want to be pushed around anymore. Classic NFLPA v. NFL

Is this a case of rich owners unwilling to pay up, or an over demanding union? I tend to side with the latter, the union's at fault.

"I don't really care what happened in the past, I'm not afraid of challenges. I look forward to them." - T. Sparano

tstamper, you and me both. The NFL is sliding fast in my mind. They need some sort of method to insure some sort of equality.