God that SUX!!!!

SAD BUT TRUE. I HOPE HE STOPS THE DROPS. I dont know if he cant catch are if he is afraid to get hit. Maybe both!

He doesn't focus, which means he is anticipating something. I'm going to go out on a limb and say he anticipates the hit....

He's worth a spot on the return team in Madden, that's for damn sure.

I'm now 5/5 in returning opening kickoffs for TD's against my roommate's Patriots!!

An interesting question: What's the problem?

1. Vision?
2. Anxiety over being hit.

My opinion is itis more # 2than # 1. The reason I say that is, he has trouble in traffic or when someone is near him, and does not seem to in wide open field (ala kickoff catches) or when he is not in traffic.

He is afraid of taking a hit, plain and simple.

He needs to realize that he's probably gonna get popped regardless of whether or not he makes the catch...so he should just catch the damn ball.

yeah and I'm the negative one! lol

Your searching YOUTUBE for highlights of Ginn failing and racing here to post the link.

POT.....meet Mr.Kettle!!

It was from PFT, you clown.

I'd say get your stories straight, but you've never demonstrated any ability to do so, so I'm not expecting much.

Get over your Ted Ginn HATE!

You are happy when Ginn fails, your hate is so strong that even when he does well you find ways to bash him. Even in games now where he is benched and does nothing, you still bash him. Get over it!

I don't think anyone really hates Ginn, just wish we'd get someone who is a real threat at wr.

That by BTW definately involves catching the ball. Traffic or not.

Perfectly put, Phinjim!

It's well known that Ginn has a learning disability. Do you think this could play some part in a lack of concentration?

MikeO Wrote:
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> Get over your Ted Ginn HATE!
>
> You are happy when Ginn fails, your hate is so
> strong that even when he does well you find ways
> to bash him. Even in games now where he is benched
> and does nothing, you still bash him. Get over it!

When Ginn fails we lose games so no one is celebrating his faults. But you can't deny the fact that he sucks. What are you his agent or something

Sure looks that way.

His primary value to us is as a KR and PR ( if they would use him).

Bess is nothing special s a PR. In fact he has muffed few.

Ginn is signed through 2011, making it expensive to cut him prior to next season. Next year we will have a premiere WR (I hope so)...which means Ginn is VERY expendable as a WR.

I say have him practice as a CB or even a FS and let him train all off-season as a DB and then bring him in to Training Camp to compete for the nickel/dime spot.

Will Allen will be gone. The 2 starting Corner spots are solid. We need depth there.

Having a ridiculously fast defender who also is your PR/KR is way more valuable than what he does at WR.

Will Allen just signed a contract extension last offseason, he won't be gone

yeah, I forgot about that. I just looked at the contract and they gave him $10Mil up front, so his salary will be low enough that they can keep him as a #3 CB.

I still think Ginn offers so little at WR that they might as well experiment with him before they cut him.

realist Wrote:
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> I say have him practice as a CB or even a FS and
> let him train all off-season as a DB and then
> bring him in to Training Camp to compete for the
> nickel/dime spot.
>
> Will Allen will be gone. The 2 starting Corner
> spots are solid. We need depth there.
>
> Having a ridiculously fast defender who also is
> your PR/KR is way more valuable than what he does
> at WR.

You want to try this guy out for DB even though it's painfully obvious he's afraid to hit? Seriously?

Teddy will improve as a WR when he's not our number one threat. Until then, accept him for what he is...an above average kick return man. I watched him last week in Charlotte and you should've heard the panther fans cussing Fox for kicking to him. The guy's a threat to go 100 yard every time they kick the ball in his direction and opponents fear that. I, for one, am glad to have someone like that on my team...at least for now...

(the opinion stated above is subject to change at any time based on the previous weeks performance which includes but is not limited to catches, YAC, fumbles, running out of bounds unnecessarily, and of course dropped balls.)

Easy on ripping Deion Sanders and calling him a "softy". The guy was the best cover corner in NFL history and is a 1st ballot hall of fame player.

And if Hartline is our #2 WR next year, we will be in the same mess we are this year with our passing game. We MUST add 2 proven NFL WR's this offseason. Not 1,....2! Guys that put a little fear into opponents

Good point, Realist but huge difference between Deion and Teddy. First of all, Deion was a CB by trade. He played his way into the NFL at the position and learned over years and years of trial and error how to become the number one shutdown corner in the history of the league.

Granted, Deion was a weak tackler but you give that up for his ability to take away the best WR's in the league. In Teddy's case, there's no way he can ever become a shutdown corner with NO experience to date.

As far as cutting him, I don't see that happening. I believe he'll be on this team until his contract expires. He's single handedly won us one game already this year. If he does that once a year, and limits his liability at WR, you may see him re-signed...

The ONLY way Ginn gets cut is if the salary cap goes away and there is no penalty for cutting him.

Other than that, he's gonna be in Miami for a while

he was recruited to Ohio state as a CB and was converted to WR because of his ability to score from a hitch pass.

I'm not saying it is easy, or a simple transition; however, it has been done before, QB to WR, DE to OT, CB to WR...it happens.

The guy can't catch. That's what they say about corners, fast guys who can't catch.

Sure there is technique...but it would be easy to see if he was picking it up.

You can't teach speed. and if you struggle with catching you put your speed against the other teams speed.

Initialy he would get beat on a double move or a fake; but, once he got settled in...how many NFL WR's could beat him deep on speed? Maybe 2 at most.

I like it. Sean Smith, Vontae Davis, and Ted "can't catch" Ginn at corners. Could work