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Re: Is this a two-way street?
Posted by: Phinsfan2 ()
Date: November 07, 2009 08:42AM


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Re: Is this a two-way street?
Posted by: Miami Reppa ()
Date: November 07, 2009 09:22AM

I think the problem is that blacks were often referred to as porch monkeys so for him to used the phrase "monkey" (regardless of what was in front of the word) excited feelings that were already there.

It is unfortunate that a nation this great has caused so many racial divisions and is the primary reason for all of this "political correctness"

I personally thought it was rediculous for kramer from sinfeild (what ever his real name is) to appologise for his comments about blacks. Personally if someone is forced to appologise then what is the point. He said his peace, it is clear how he feels so let him feel that way. It is a free country and one day he will go spouting off to the wrong people and he will learn a valuable lesson. Imas caught a bad rap, I thought he was a racist at first because of what I heard from the media but I was ignorant because I didnt know who he was and hadn't come to my own conclusions. I had a chance to listen to him on the radio and this man is no racist... he just speaks his mind about any race color or creed. He did use poor judgement in his phrasing but he is not a racist.

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Re: Is this a two-way street?
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: November 07, 2009 01:09PM

Reppa wrote:

I personally thought it was ridiculous for kramer from seinfeld (what ever his real name is) to apologize for his comments about blacks.

RESPONSE: His name is Michael Richard. It was out here in Hollywood that it happened.

And it was not just the type of comments we have been discussing concerning Griese, Imus, Johnson, etc., a stereotypical comment relating a certain characteristic to a people.

but in Michael's case, it was a full out rant using the "N" word and talking about what "N"s do and where "N"s should go.

Here is the background. Obviously no longer in the limelight of the nation as when he was on Seinfeld, Richard was reduced to appearing at comedy clubs doing stand-up for a living.

Apparently this obnoxius a-hole, who happened to be Black, starting heckling and basically ruining his routine.

Richard "lost it" and fought back using the "N" word.

Was Richard wrong? Yes. Was he racist? Yes.

However, this is what I'm saying. We should relate to things as human beings first before we jump to whatever closing conclusion we will ultimately end with.

Yes, I am offended as a Black that Richard took off on that tirade.

But personally, looking at it human to human, Richard was down and this A-hole was kicking him when he's down.

When you're down and someone is kicking you, you tend to fight with whatever you have at hand, right or wrong. Does it make what you do right? No. Does it make a difference when you do it in a situation like that as opposed to doing it as a matter of course, yes.

Take another example. Take Dog the Bounty Hunter. I may have my facts wrong but I think his daughter was dating a Black man. Dog said, "Hey we can't have you dating a Black man."

Oddly enough, it wasn't so much that they objected to the relationship in an of itself, but they said, "We use the N word too much in our house. What if it gets back?"

An odd reason but to me Dog is worse than Michael Richard because he admitted by that statement that he used it as a matter of course.

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Re: Is this a two-way street?
Posted by: ranger1 ()
Date: November 07, 2009 07:46PM

Wait..............Is this PHINS.COM???

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Re: Is this a two-way street?
Posted by: kelreign ()
Date: November 07, 2009 08:25PM

I deleted my previous post...


Lets get back to football! Go Phins, beat the Patriots!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/07/2009 09:34PM by kelreign.

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