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I wouldn't. Wasn't Moss traded to NE for a 4th rounder? I've seen Pro Bowl WRs traded for 2nd rounders. This guy isn't at that level, at least not yet.
If Baltimore is willing to give up a 2nd, it's because they feel they're really close and are looking for the final pieces. I don't think we're there yet, and I'd like to see not only how our own WRs develop but what we can do next year in the draft.
I'd do it. We're not going to get a WR of that quality in the 2d round next year, and we get him for this season too. It doesn't really matter about other trades in the past--Moss went for a 4th b/c the Raiders are idiots. Edwards went essentially for more than a 2d. TO etc went for 2d rounders and they had baggage Bowe does not (though I admit TO at the time was better than Bowe is now). Hell, Roy Williams went for a 1st and 3d--Bowe is better than him so I'd say a 2d is fair.
funny story related to this…I have an ongoing ‘bet for nothing more than bragging rights’ with one of the youth in our church regarding who is and will be the better receiver – Bowe or Ginn. A few weeks ago, he conceded to me that Ginn would likely win this week because Bowe was injured and was to sit out the game. In an ironic twist, Ginn played the entire San Diego game without any catches. We agreed that it was a tie, but that Bowe was probably more rested at the end of the day.
PS – I’m so glad he caught that 53-yard ball Monday night :-)
Huh WHAT?? DBowe for second, are you serious... i would take that in a heart beat. We need a big strong fast good sure handed route running #2, is there a better #2 in the game? Please someone throw one out cause I cant think of one. And the randy moss thing is a terrible example. He was shipped out, everyone know he is arguably the best wr in the history of the nfl. you cant judge it by his #4 trade, the raiders are idiots... that is why that coach was gone after what 1 year!
YES, do it. Nobody we pick in Rd 2 of the draft will be as good as Dwayne Bowe. Period, end of story! Bowe is a legit #1 WR in this league and he is YOUNG with the best years of his career in front of him!!!
Look, at some point you gotta do SOMETHING to improve this offense and WR corp. I mean open up the checkbook, pay somebody!!! I mean Camarillo and Bess are good players, not knocking them....but if the ULTIMATE GOAL is to win a super bowl, we gotta go out and get a proven impact player at WR. Bess and Camarillo won't cut it. I mean 86 recpt for over 1,000 yards and 8 TD's with the likes of Croyal and Thigpen last year, that shows this kid is legit!!! A 2nd round pick for Bowe is a steal for Miami
With our recent pickup of Tyler Thigpen, we’ll have another valuable data point regarding the value of Bowe. Living in KC, I get an overdose of normally unwanted Chiefs info. Bowe was in Todd Haley’s doghouse. I think it’s interesting that he has been able to flourish almost right out of the gate on a team that was in decline when he arrived and has been one of the worst over the past 3 years. QB instability, an OL that is porous this year and is nothing like the KC line with Roaf, Shields, Tait, Watters, etc. No major WR threat opposite him (though Gonzo was there, I think it’s telling that Bowe has flourished this year even w/o him). Their running game has been spotty even though they have Larry Johnson (who is doing abysmally this year). I’ve never really thought that much of him as a receiver, but it is remarkable that he has been able to achieve such early-career success given his environment.
Why would the picks be spread over 2 years? That makes no sense at all.
KC would take the Ravens trade then, if that was the case. The only way KC would think that sorry offer would top the Ravens offer is if we gave them 2 high picks in consecutive yrs.