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Next Year's Opposition
Posted by: Hooligan2 ()
Date: January 29, 2024 06:10PM

HOME

Buffalo Bills — 2023 record: 11-6
New England Patriots — 2023 record: 4-13
New York Jets — 2023 record: 7-10
Jacksonville Jaguars — 2023 record: 9-8 ... Last meeting: 2021 (Dolphins 31, Jaguars 13)T
Tennessee Titans — 2023 record: 6-11 ... Last meeting: 2023 (Titans 28, Dolphins 27)
Las Vegas Raiders — 2023 record: 8-9 ... Last meeting: 2023 (Dolphins 20, Raiders 13)
Arizona Cardinals — 2023 record: 4-13 ... Last meeting: 2020 (Dolphins 34, Cardinals 31)
San Francisco 49ers — 2023 record: 12-5 ... Last meeting: 2022 (49ers 33, Dolphins 17)

AWAY

Buffalo Bills
New England Patriots
New York Jets
Houston Texans — 2023 record: 10-7 ... Last meeting: 2022 (Dolphins 30, Texans 15)
Indianapolis Colts — 2023 record: 9-8 ... Last meeting: 2021 (Colts 27, Dolphins 17)
Cleveland Browns — 2023 record: 11-6 ... Last meeting: 2022 (Dolphins 39, Browns 17)
Los Angeles Rams — 2023 record: 10-7 ... Last meeting: 2020 (Dolphins 28, Rams 17)
Seattle Seahawks — 2023 record: 9-8 ... Last meeting: 2020 (Seahawks 31, Dolphins 23)
Green Bay Packers — 2023 record: 9-8 ... Last meeting: 2022 (Packers 26, Dolphins 20)


Uh Oh, 10 games against teams with winning records.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/30/2024 05:34AM by Hooligan2.

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Re: Next Year's Opposition
Date: January 30, 2024 03:43AM

At full strength not many teams can beat us. We may get another chance at this if we get rid of the expensive often injured and replace them with healthy playmakers.....Oline , at Corner and revamp special teams.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Next Year's Opposition
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: January 31, 2024 02:50AM

Our football starters and bench strength will depend on who is healthy and who stays on the team and not cut. Also, what players new to the team will actually perform for more than a few snaps. UGH.

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Re: Next Year's Opposition
Posted by: tsstamper ()
Date: January 31, 2024 01:03PM

Just to get under the cap, my understanding is we'll need to get rid of about $50M.

The most obvious cuts to my simple mind are the following to clear up $45M.
- Ogbah $13.7M
- Howard (post June 1 designation) $18.5M
- Baker 9.8M
- Crossen $3M

The GM boldly proclaimed they want a long-term deal w/Tua, and usually he's much more quiet if he's thinking of them being gone. So, whether any of us thinks it's a good idea or not, I bet it happens and dramatically reduces his current $23M.

Restructures/extensions available options.

I've heard conflicting things about what happens if Armstead does retire...but one was that it could save us $13M? That would be good...the bad part is that we'd have only 1 of 5 starting OL from 2023 signed for 2024.

Any time a team competes for a SB, they need a number of things to go right. For us some key ones:
- better injury/health luck
- Tua and McD to continue to improve in critical areas
- existing young/cheap players to step up (Smith & Tindall)
- impactful draft - especially at least 1 solid starter at OL
That's a lot to expect or even hope for...

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Re: Next Year's Opposition
Date: February 01, 2024 08:18AM

tsstamper Wrote:
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> Just to get under the cap, my understanding is
> we'll need to get rid of about $50M.
>
> The most obvious cuts to my simple mind are the
> following to clear up $45M.
> - Ogbah $13.7M
> - Howard (post June 1 designation) $18.5M
> - Baker 9.8M
> - Crossen $3M
>
> The GM boldly proclaimed they want a long-term
> deal w/Tua, and usually he's much more quiet if
> he's thinking of them being gone. So, whether any
> of us thinks it's a good idea or not, I bet it
> happens and dramatically reduces his current
> $23M.
>
> Restructures/extensions available options.
>
> I've heard conflicting things about what happens
> if Armstead does retire...but one was that it
> could save us $13M? That would be good...the bad
> part is that we'd have only 1 of 5 starting OL
> from 2023 signed for 2024.
>
> Any time a team competes for a SB, they need a
> number of things to go right. For us some key
> ones:
> - better injury/health luck
> - Tua and McD to continue to improve in critical
> areas
> - existing young/cheap players to step up (Smith
> & Tindall)
> - impactful draft - especially at least 1 solid
> starter at OL
> That's a lot to expect or even hope for...

Great post. The Pats seem to manage it well for 2 decades. Then Brady goes to Tampa and Whalla!?

Maybe Tom needs to become a consultant? Just keep him away from any cheerleaders or hawt Cuban hot dog vendors.......

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Next Year's Opposition
Posted by: JC ()
Date: February 01, 2024 09:28AM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
>
> Maybe Tom needs to become a consultant?

No thanks, besides--he's about to start his long-awaited stint as an NFL broadcaster! Move over, Al Michaels. Tom Brady is in the booth! Better get rid of the pizza and pretzels and bring out some bowls of bird seed!

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Re: Next Year's Opposition
Date: February 01, 2024 10:05AM

JC Wrote:
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> TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> >
> > Maybe Tom needs to become a consultant?
>
> No thanks, besides--he's about to start his
> long-awaited stint as an NFL broadcaster! Move
> over, Al Michaels. Tom Brady is in the booth!
> Better get rid of the pizza and pretzels and bring
> out some bowls of bird seed!



I get it. But someone knew about the salary cap, how to put a winning team together for 2 decades. Then again in a new city. I don't think it was Gronkowski. Not sure he could count without removing his socks.....
Now that Tom isn't playing us twice a year I have developed a bit of respect for him.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Next Year's Opposition
Posted by: JC ()
Date: February 01, 2024 11:35AM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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>

> Now that Tom isn't playing us twice a year I have
> developed a bit of respect for him.


That makes one of us.


But if he's a capologist I'd entertain the possibility of hiring him for that role only if :

* he can prove he was the capologist for NE and Tampa during their championship seasons.
* he is forbidden to ever meet with or be seen with any of our players. He meets with players' agents and lawyers only.
* he may not attend our games.
* he is relegated to an isolated window-less office away from everyone else (I'm talkin' Stephen Root in Office Space with his red stapler).


I think I'm being entirely reasonable here spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

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Re: Next Year's Opposition
Posted by: Hooligan2 ()
Date: February 01, 2024 12:12PM

NE had a pretty simple formula, when somebody wanted to get paid, they were traded, in many cases for a 1st round pick and then some. Ty Law, Randy Moss, Lawyer Malloy, it didn't matter, they were gone.
When Xavien Howard had his 10 Int season, we should have traded him to a team that thought they were just an elite corner away. Somebody would have traded for a couple of first round picks. That's what NE would have done. Instead Miami PAYS those stupid prices.
Look what we paid for Tyreek and we can't win a play-off game. KC traded Tyreek for a boatload of draft picks, unloaded the salary and has been to the Superbowl every year without him.

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Re: Next Year's Opposition
Posted by: tsstamper ()
Date: February 01, 2024 12:35PM

In a way, he was their capologist...or at least a cheat code. He took well under market value for years so they could have a financial competitive advantage in assembling & maintaining the rest of their roster.

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Re: Next Year's Opposition
Posted by: JC ()
Date: February 01, 2024 04:28PM

tsstamper Wrote:
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> In a way, he was their capologist...or at least a
> cheat code.
^^^^^^

Can't argue with that terminology!

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Re: Next Year's Opposition
Date: February 02, 2024 04:42AM

Hooligan2 Wrote:
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> NE had a pretty simple formula, when somebody
> wanted to get paid, they were traded, in many
> cases for a 1st round pick and then some. Ty Law,
> Randy Moss, Lawyer Malloy, it didn't matter, they
> were gone.
> When Xavien Howard had his 10 Int season, we
> should have traded him to a team that thought they
> were just an elite corner away. Somebody would
> have traded for a couple of first round picks.
> That's what NE would have done. Instead Miami PAYS
> those stupid prices.
> Look what we paid for Tyreek and we can't win a
> play-off game. KC traded Tyreek for a boatload of
> draft picks, unloaded the salary and has been to
> the Superbowl every year without him.



Excellent assessment. I'm not saying get rid of every player wanting to get paid. Vince Wilfork got paid 60 million . Times and salaries have changed. If they are rock steady and start every game like Wilkins you pay them. But 1/2 our rooster was getting paid and not playing. There is a formula to it. Pretty sure it starts with the trenches.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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