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Getting #1
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: February 26, 2020 05:28PM

could offer

#5, Steeler and next years first or #1 or

all 3 2020 and we get #1 and 33

Feel Chargers will jump us to #3

Draft

Burrow
Taylor, Swift or Dobbins
Mekhi Becton or Josh Jones
Antonio Gandy Golden
Bradley Anae
Kyle Dugger
Jordan Mack Zach Baun, or Evan Weaver
Aj Dillon
Luq Barcoo
KJ Hill, Juwon Johnson or Lawrence Cager
Jon Runyan
Julian Blackmon or Tanner Muse



FA

Dante Fowler
Jake Conklin
Logan Ryan
Kareem Hunt or Austin Ekeler



Fowler and Anae give us 2 pass rushing threats
Ryan oppo Howard , Dugger replaces Jones
Barcoo, Blackmon and Mack add depth

Burrow the franchise QB
Hunt, a top draft RB and Dillon, Moss, or Josh Kelly retool the backfield
Gandy Golden and a Cager with Parker , Preston Williams and Gesicki give us 4-5 big receiving threats
Conklin , Becton or Jones and Runyan retool the OLine



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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 26, 2020 06:22PM

Jlyell, duck because I know certain people on this board are already grabbing for their bows and arrows.

LOL, I like it though.

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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: February 26, 2020 07:09PM

ChyrenB we have been been waiting far too long and have the ammunition . Been waiting
almost 50 years Go big or go home

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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: February 27, 2020 02:26AM

jlyell13 while I have never been a fan of trading up in a draft if we sent our three first rounders to Cincinnati for #1 and #33 I would do it. Although the numbers would suggest a trade more like #1 and #65. Maybe we could throw in Rosen to get the #1 and #33 trade done.

So in essence do you think Cincinnati would take our three first rounders and Rosen for #1 and #33 heck throw in Andy Dalton too(I am sure he could use some new scenery). I am good with it.

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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: February 27, 2020 02:53AM

astro34 the 3 2020 is close,could throw in Risen or move him for a pick and include that, or our first 2 in 20 and first in 21 as we have the Texan first.

You miss 100% of the shots you dont take.

If Tuas medical checks come back positive we could see 2 teams try to jump us to 3 and 4 to take Tua and Herbert. Chargers definitely 1. Keep an eye on Herbert and Jordan Love at the combine. How they show could change things. Remember the Cards jumped us to get Rosen



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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: February 27, 2020 04:29AM

I know someone will move around in the draft , but my mock draft this morning (without trades) ended up this way:

#5 Jeffery Odukah CB Ohio State (Simmons was gone already)
#18 Justin Herbert QB Oregon
#26 Yetur Gross-Matos Edge Penn St.
#39 Isaiah Wilson OT Georgia
#56 Tyler Biadasz C Wisconsin
# 70 Cam Akers RB FSU
#142 Ezra Cleveland G Boise St.
#162 Antonio Gandy-Golden WR Liberty
#173 Alohi Gilman S Notre Dame
#185 Bryce Sterk Edge Montana St.
#197 Michael Divinity Jr. LB LSU
#202 Josiah Coatney DL Mississippi
#246 Victor Johnson OT App St.
#251 Michael Turk P Arizona St.

I and sure the draft won't go this way but would love for it to somehow shake out this way, assuming we don't move up to get Burrow.

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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: February 27, 2020 10:51AM

Astro34 dont think Herbert will last to 18, Love likely gone also and how can you not take an RB
higher we have the worst backfield in the NFL. Maybe we will sign Damian Williams or Kenyan Drake in FA?

AGG likely gone before 162



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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: February 27, 2020 11:42AM

I just went with how the draft shook out. Planned on Fromm in the second round but when Herbert was there I took him because of value there. As for running back I planned on taking one earlier but when Wilson was there I had to get him and could not pass on Biasdasz in that spot. Akers is a good back, and I figured if I fixed the OL then he would be a food addition. Drake sucked with Miami but got a decent line and looked good. Thought AGG was a great pick where he landed, I like the sixth and seventh rounds for added depth and think Johnson could be good at G, took a punter because he is good and could save a few $$$ if he beat out our punter.

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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: February 28, 2020 05:42AM

FYI.... I picked Turk before he benched 225 25 times.LOL

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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: February 29, 2020 12:15PM

have to land

Burrow, Tua, Herbert or Love

2 of

Swift, Taylor Dobbins Akers

Dillon, Josh Kelly, Darynton Evans

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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 29, 2020 01:34PM

Let me point out the obvious.

It IS BASICALLY MARCH.

There are NO games being played.

There are EVEN NO pre season games being played.

THE NEXT BIG FOOTBALL event is the draft in April.

Thus the draft is a legitimate subject.

If there is one subject more likely to produce heat THAN (MEANING BESIDES) which players that should be playing is....... wait for it...........wait for it.........IT IS WHO SHOULD BE TAKEN ON TO THE TEAM AND WHO SHOULD NOT.

So with the combination of the ABSENCE of games and the presence of an natural argument MAKER like the draft........................it doesn't take a high IQ to realize that arguments are going to get heated.

Now some people cannot argue without getting personal.

When one guy gets personal, the other guy is going to get personal back at him.

Attacking a player favored by a poster and even ragging on that poster for supporting that player is really NOT getting personal because it only attacks that other poster's analytical skills.

But what IS getting personal is calling a person an idiot or a NON American or implying that because of his resident state or the fact that he does not attend games at the local stadium, that he is NOT a fan, that is uncalled for and is what should be prohibited.

I would not be opposed to the institution of rules within the guidelines that I have just mentioned.

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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: February 29, 2020 03:05PM

We all have opinions and although listening to customer input is common for progressive companies, not sure sports teams do it, and many live in the lottery year after year. Approaching a 50 year phin fan , post Marino it has been tough, not a great talent evaluation record. A huge opportunity in 2020-2021, but have to hit on picks and FA and rebuild like Lynch and the Niners have



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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: February 29, 2020 06:42PM

Isaiah Simmons ???

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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 29, 2020 06:56PM

did you mean Marion as in Marion, Indiana, or Marino?

Just checking.

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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 01, 2020 06:16AM

if no Phin moves who is our pick?
Tua
Herbert
Okudah
Simmons
Love

Revised top 4 barring trades?

Burrow
Young
Okudah ? Simmons?
Simmons ? Wills? Wirfs ?

Skins in bind Need OL but Cant pass on Young, Trent Williams for Texan pick?

Okudah or Simmons drop if chargers or other move to 3 for Tua or Herbert ?

Could phins take Simmons and Love, Hurts or Fromm later?



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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 01, 2020 06:47AM

An interesting CBS post has Skins taking Tua. Could be smoke to get picks would drop Chase young to 3, Expect Lions would take unless they feel Young is Suh revisited or trade down also. Projects 4 QB in top 6 picks. I could see QB going 1 and 3,4,5 some via trade up for Tua and after Murray could see Skins go after Tua. If Tua 2, Chargers move to 3 for Herbert , that leaves Okudah, Young, Wirfs, wills, Bechton, Simmmons and Love avail 4-9 for Phins

I see some Randall Cunningham in love,



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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: AFCbeast ()
Date: March 01, 2020 01:23PM

Updated draft list from Jan 24th...

Still sticking pat at #5...no trade ups from that position...and still sticking to earlier list with one addition due to Thompson staying for his senior year.

RT: Isaiah Wilson
LT: Mekhi Becton
DE: Curtis Weaver
OLB: Isaiah Simmons
ILB: Erroll Thompson ( out ) , Clay Johnston ( in if med. cleared )
OL: Tristan Wirfs

And again...all in on QB A.G.

Build the trench...steal the diamonds.

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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 01, 2020 03:20PM

AFCBeast likely not getting Simmons and Bechton or Wirfs at 18.

AG could be a huge sleeper..9 TD's on UCLA . What round?
Patmon too?


Have to get an RB worst backfield in the NFL



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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: AFCbeast ()
Date: March 01, 2020 05:37PM

My list is not in any particular draft order...just my fav guys to see in Aqua and Orange. No QB in round 1 leaves us the chance to land a stud at 5 and more than likely no dud at 18.
Agreed on RB. Forgot to add Akers from earlier post in other thread.
Tough call on where to grab AG. Free agency QB moves by others will provide a better picture. If they trade down the 5 to some desperate team wanting Herbert/Love whoever's left for us there... use one of those gimme picks and just get it done.

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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 06, 2020 12:45PM

These are the Hall of fame quarterbacks

Modern Era: Quarterbacks (26)


Troy Aikman 1989-2000

George Blanda (Also PK) 1949-1958, 1960-1975

Terry Bradshaw 1970-1983

Len Dawson 1957-1975

John Elway 1983-1998

Brett Favre 1991-2010

Dan Fouts 1973-1987

Otto Graham 1946-1955

Bob Griese 1967-1980

Sonny Jurgensen 1957-1974

Jim Kelly 1986-1996

Bobby Layne 1948-1962

Dan Marino 1983-1999

Joe Montana 1979-1994

Warren Moon 1984-2000

Joe Namath 1965-1977

Ken Stabler 1970-1984

Bart Starr 1956-1971

Roger Staubach 1969-1979

Fran Tarkenton 1961-1978

Y.A. Tittle 1948-1964

Johnny Unitas 1956-1973

Norm Van Brocklin 1949-1960

Kurt Warner 1998-2009

Bob Waterfield 1945-1952

Steve Young 1985-1999

Note the draft years for Elway and Marino

Also I know Spurrier was drafted the same year as Griese

As I remember, the Miami fans wanted Spurrier who I believe went to college in Florida. Of course, I was at Purdue with Griese and Leroy Keyes who went to Cleveland later.

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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: March 06, 2020 01:23PM

Marino , Elway and Kelly were all drafted in 1983

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Re: Getting #1
Date: March 06, 2020 06:12PM

astro34 Wrote:
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> Marino , Elway and Kelly were all drafted in 1983


AND only Elway got s ring 15 yrs later thanks to RB Terrell Davis .just saying......

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 06, 2020 06:32PM

So following that ILLogic, Marino and Kelly were both worthLESS to their respective franchises.

(insert confused smiley.)

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Re: Getting #1
Date: March 06, 2020 07:17PM

What logic? That was a statement based on absolute fact.

So your affirmation is baseless and worthless. What else is new?eye rolling smiley

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 06, 2020 07:32PM

Learn to read first. I said illogic, not logic.

It means that following your faulty logic (really illogic) you are basically arguing that although Marino and Elway and Kelley were drafted high, Marino and Kelly were worthless to their franchises because only Elway got a ring.

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Re: Getting #1
Date: March 07, 2020 08:24AM

FACT. Marino , ELWAY , Kelly the greatest QB class of all time had only 2 championships , both won by A running back. THATS A fact Jack. Not a theory, no logic implied. You are implying very untutored logic because your house of cards draft logic depends on 1 basis.. a QB.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: March 07, 2020 08:46AM

So by tcpf illogic lets not pick a qb at all. Who needs one.lol. oh boy.

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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 07, 2020 10:37AM

He's still in love with Tannehill and wants us to suck until Tannehill retires. Treasure is mentally ill.

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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: March 07, 2020 01:09PM

He might be drunk when he posts.

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Re: Getting #1
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 07, 2020 02:05PM

No. Drunks are FAR more sensible.

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