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At first i was not interested the Phins trading with HOU for Clowney. Did not want to give up any draft picks. Now that HOU has lost Miller for the season they are desperate for a rb (Does the need for rb now move ahead of their wanting to upgrade at LT). I think we can package players for Clowney. Drake/Stills, Drake/Harris. Heck Drake/Stills and Harris and we have HOU add a 4th rnd pick w/ Clowney.
Drake has a huge upside. That's a tough call. Stills!? Hell yeah.....dump that POS. I saw a few capable runners in our stall during Pre season. Liked Laird.
But a player like Clowney.....if hes a team Player could be HUGE.
> I hope the rumors about Clowney for Tunsil (even
> if there are draft picks included) are unfounded
> because I think it would be a devastating mistake.
> Excellent left tackles don't grow on trees and I'm
> not particularly blown away by Clowney any way.
> He's had 18 sacks over the past 2 seasons which is
> good but not particularly elite numbers. Plus, the
> amount of money it would take to re-sign him is
> staggering. This is the kind of move I would
> expect Tannenbaum would make. Grier better think
> this through real carefully because it could blow
> up in his face very easily. The offensive line
> with Tunsil looks to be putrid. Without him, every
> QB on the roster will get pummeled.
I get kicking the tires on any legitimate option to improve the team. And, I don't think that anyone on the team fits into the "can't be had for any price" category. That said, Tunsil, along with Howard, are the two most prominent parts of building with young, elite (or elite potential & on the way to realizing it) players at premium positions.
Clowney is a clear upgrade over what we have @ DE. It's all the other "stuff" that turns me off of any trade for him:
- he can only play on the tag...1-yr rental risk
- he has expressed desire to play for PHI or SEA (I don't want any player playing for us who doesn't want to)
- production hasn't equaled talent, playing across from Watt nonetheless
- some injury history (admittedly not recent)
- the contract he'll demand after tag year, assuming he plays well, will be astronomical
- honestly, just seems selfish, me-first (his right and very common in today's NFL, but contrary to team-first attitude it seems Flores is trying to build)
Keeping in mind what I said above about all our players having a price and kicking the tires, there are real consequences to doing this. It is a business, but they are humans, as well. I'm not saying we should pander to their feelings and sensitivities, but the front office just needs to remain aware of that dynamic when they go about the business of doing business. There's a balance between the healthy pressure to perform of "any of us could be moved if we don't perform" and unhealthy "it's difficult to focus & gel as a team because all of us are constantly looking over our shoulder at what surprise move the FO might make"