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Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: July 18, 2018 04:19PM


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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: toko34 ()
Date: July 18, 2018 04:50PM

Too many moving parts. I doubt it. No mention of the offensive line. No mention of experienced tight ends. No mention of the defensive line or linebackers.

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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: Hooligan2 ()
Date: July 19, 2018 05:21AM

There'a also an article titled, "Five reasons the Bills will make the playoffs." "Five reasons the Jets will make the playoffs." A pretty generic rose colored article high on "best case" optimism. We'll know soon enough.

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It is HEALTH that is the true wealth, not pieces of gold and silver.
-Mahatma Gandhi-



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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: toko34 ()
Date: July 19, 2018 08:41AM

I guess the NFL wants its fans to think every team is capable of making the playoffs.

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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: July 19, 2018 09:29AM

Everybody will make the playoffs in july and august.


We come to reality in september.

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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: Fins72 ()
Date: July 19, 2018 10:53AM

Five reasons why the Dolphins won't make the playoffs?

1. Tannenbaum
2. Tannenbaum
3. Tannenbaum
4. Tannenbaum
5. Ross and Tannenbaum

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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: July 19, 2018 11:08AM

You for got one more.

6. A hobbled qb on crutches....

Bring on the couple scrubs we have qb backs ups we have then its really going to get ugly.

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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: July 20, 2018 08:00AM

Wow, what a bunch of "glass-half-empty" pessimists! So, if you are really this down on this team, why do you watch this team?
As for me, until-and if- reality intrudes, hope springs eternal.

Rick

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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: Fins72 ()
Date: July 20, 2018 08:52AM

dolphan4545 Wrote:
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> Wow, what a bunch of "glass-half-empty"
> pessimists! So, if you are really this down on
> this team, why do you watch this team?
> As for me, until-and if- reality intrudes, hope
> springs eternal.


I can't speak for others that post here, but I'm not a glass half empty person. I'm a realist. This is a bad roster and there is no way it's going to be a realistic playoff contender. Why I'm a fan? I've been a fan since 1970. I'll always be Dolphins fan. Would never root for any other team. I am, though, sick and tired of the brainless decisions that are made that keep this team a bottom dweller. This off-season has been one of the worst in recent memory. Productive players traded or released and mediocre players rewarded with extensions. This is quite likely the worst front office in the league. I'd have said the Browns last year but now, I'm not so sure. The only saving grace would be when they flame out this year (and they will flame out) will it get Ross to pull his head of his ass and hire someone who knows something about football and how to evaluate talent to replace the incompetents that are there now. Honestly, how Ross can he be this frigging dense is astounding.

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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: toko34 ()
Date: July 20, 2018 03:26PM

sounds like good reasoning to me fins72-

I got to see first hand some transformations of terrible franchises that got converted into good ones many times. It's sad but losing season after season embeds a sense of hopelessness into fan DNA. Once the winning starts up again- the flow of positivity returns but if you've followed this particular franchise for a long time... The reality and negativity is likely running rampant in your season expectations. It's almost like a defense mechanism against failed expectations. You can only be Charlie Brown so many times before you give up on Lucy letting you kick the ball. But here we are once again!

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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: July 22, 2018 11:29AM

Maybe that's what it is for me. I've been watching this game for a long time, and I grew up watching a hopeless team in Philadelphia. When I got to SoFla, this team was so good that we got used to winning- so much so that every year, the season was almost a foregone conclusion and was just a prelude to the playoffs. Hard to believe now, but that was the attitude of all of South Florida in those days. I'm not blind to the frustration of recent years, but in the grand scheme of things I believe that the Dolphins recent cycle of losing will return to the winning ways one of these days. I will say one thing, though- I knew that the cycle was on a downswing the day that Wayne Huizenga and some impatient and noisy fans forced-yes, forced- Don Shula out.

Rick

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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: July 22, 2018 02:22PM

For me, it was when Ross obtained the team.

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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: July 24, 2018 02:50PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> For me, it was when Ross obtained the team.

I don't see that. Nobody has a crystal ball to be able to see into the future what will happen when someone comes in, but its easy to see that when the winningest coach in NFL history is going out that things are probably going to get bad.

Rick

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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: July 24, 2018 04:27PM

Is that superstition-like? I know there is no where to go but down but this low?

And I picked Ross because he has made numerous acts such as keeping Philbin too long and not firing the GM.

In fact Ross's chief interest in the team seems to be the celebrity status that comes with it.

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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: July 30, 2018 09:48AM

Our biggest issue is that we have been on a coaching carousel for 20 years...you show me a team that changes coaches and thereby schemes, rosters and front offices every few years and I will always show you a bad team.

You have to hire guys and give them a minimum of 5-6 seasons to fully realize thier vision, fans and what they want be damned.

We've changed one or more of those things far too often since Shula departed.

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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: JC ()
Date: July 31, 2018 06:02PM

Ken Wrote:
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> You have to hire guys and give them a minimum of
> 5-6 seasons to fully realize thier vision, fans
> and what they want be damned.
>


I tend to agree with that Ken, but it becomes a chicken and egg thing. Fans, Owners and Players get impatient midway through year 2, then it goes south from there. Coach gets fired, entire staff turns over, and we start all over again. Nobody has the patience to let a regime 'develop' this team over that long of a time span.

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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: SCPhinsFan ()
Date: August 01, 2018 03:00AM

I think the team has a good core of young players developing.

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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: Fins72 ()
Date: August 01, 2018 03:41AM

Ken Wrote:
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> Our biggest issue is that we have been on a
> coaching carousel for 20 years...you show me a
> team that changes coaches and thereby schemes,
> rosters and front offices every few years and I
> will always show you a bad team.
>
> You have to hire guys and give them a minimum of
> 5-6 seasons to fully realize thier vision, fans
> and what they want be damned.
>
> We've changed one or more of those things far too
> often since Shula departed.

I agree that continuity is important, but it's also important to identify why you haven't been successful and then address the problem. I don't think keeping on a particular regime for the sake of continuity is a good idea if they keep making mistakes that make the team worse. I think that if Amendola and Wilson aren't an adequate replacement for Landry's production, that has to be viewed as a failure of Gase and Tannenbaum. If the run defense gets worse this year because the DT and linebacker positions regress even further from last year, that has to be addressed as a failure of this regime. At the end of the day, coaches and personnel people are judged by wins and losses. If the moves they make actually make the team worse, then waiting to pull the trigger on firing them only delays the inevitable. There's no doubt in my mind that the decisions made this off-season on free agency and the draft are not what many other NFL coaches and GMs would've made. We've lost a lot of star power with the moves that have been made. If the history of this team shows anything, it shows that finding players with the talent of the likes of Landry, Ajayi, Suh, Pouncey, isn't easy. Getting rid of them is fine as long as you have a plan to replace them that works. If you don't, then it makes sense to find someone who does.

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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: August 01, 2018 04:38AM

Continuity is the key.

This team has changed Plays front offices coaches players QBs more often than my great great grandma changed underwears.


Continuity is key word.

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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: August 01, 2018 04:40AM

Even that little midget equipments coach name egues or something like that...they used to have is a gonner.

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Re: Your Mouth to God's Ears!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: August 01, 2018 12:43PM

Fins 72 is right.

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