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Re: I am absolutelye ashamed
Date: January 11, 2017 08:54AM

I'm starting to believe its not the bad draft picks completely.

I mean Dion Jordon was a complete debacle of course.

But I believe that it was a lack of coaching , a lack of "developing" these players that we drafted. Proof is.....look at how well players like 7-11 Hogan do on other teams after they leave. Ginn, we could go on and on.

This year was different. we had injured starters go out for the season and back ups stepped up. What was different this year then the last decade and a half?

GASE. Coaching. So I really feel better about our future and our teams ability to hit on a draft class like never before.

I've said it before.....you can have a world class sports car, but without a world class driver.....what good is it?


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Re: I am absolutelye ashamed
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: January 11, 2017 11:27AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
> My complaint with the defensive line is that they
> are supposed to be not just a good but a GREAT,
> HISTORICALLY GREAT collection of pass rushers.
> Yet, I did not see half the pressure on Big Ben
> that I saw on Moore.
> Ben could have, in the words of a Twilight Zone
> episode, left the field, went into the stands,
> brought a hot dog, ate it, and then returned to
> the pocket and then thrown the pass with those
> sucky high paid clowns not even penetrating the
> pocket.


I too, would like to see our defense get to the QB much more than it has, but....

when our LBers are: (1) injured (2) backups, it is difficult for the DL to get to the QB before the ball is gone. Our DBs have been in and out or just plain out the majority of the season, so once again, we have a bunch of backups playing, and some of them playing out of position. So, once again, our DL can't get to the QB before that ball is gone, i.e., quick passes.

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Re: I am absolutelye ashamed
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 11, 2017 12:07PM

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Re: I am absolutelye ashamed
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: January 12, 2017 09:42AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
> That's a good point about the LBs being injured,
> Cap, but I think it more excuses not stopping the
> opponent's run game than it excuses not getting
> pressure on the passers.
> And of course, the difference between good pass
> rushers and supposedly star studded GREAT pass
> rushers like ours is that on the pass rush, good
> pass rushers are only successful when getting help
> from the lbs but GREAT, GREAT, GREAT pass rushers
> like we SUPPOSEDLY ASSEMBLED, should do it on
> their own especially when ALL FOUR are supposed to
> be great defensive linemen known for their pass
> rushing ability.


In reality, we only have two great pass rushers...Suh and Wake. OL concentrates on them and there isn't much pressure from the other side.

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Re: I am absolutelye ashamed
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: January 12, 2017 10:01AM

We missed D Shelby this year, That guy would come off the bench and get us a few sacks.

Mario Williams did not pan out and Fede is still trying to figure out why is he on the roster. We will have to bring in 1 or 2 DEs in 2017.

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Posted by: tsstamper ()
Date: January 27, 2017 03:16AM

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Re: I am absolutelye ashamed
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: January 28, 2017 01:15AM

That is a good site and if I'm the phins I'm offering Stills Travis Benjamin money...4 yrs 24mm.

Sims isn't worth 4.8mm/yr. 3 yrs 10mm. He can make some money, prove himself, and still be young enough to get paid after this contract.

Not sure about Branch. 7.5/yr is reasonable for a DE. Just didn't think he was that good last year.

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