Oh, so you think he's going to be happy to go back being a tight end's coach somewhere?

Pass it back to me, bro.

I know Colonel. But what I'm saying is instead of doing that, that if you know you are going to hire someone else and the team loves this guy, you let him make a graceful exit PRIOR to hiring or maybe even interviewing someone else. Other posters have FOR DIFFERENT REASONS indicated that we should have waited until the playoffs had concluded to hire a coach. They did so in hopes of getting the maximum field of candidates from which to choose. I agree with that also. but also, this would have been the time to let Campbell gracefully exit.

This is all to say again that Ross is an idiot. The fact that he does not even have these elemental instincts shows how we are doomed.

Right now, Campbell is one of the most embarrassed people you can find. There is no need for that.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Oh, so you think he's going to be happy to go back
> being a tight end's coach somewhere?
>
> Pass it back to me, bro.


I'm saying he's got no choice as no one is going to hire him has an OC or anything more than position coach and maybe a meaningless "assistant HC" title to make him feel better. What qualifications does he have to call plays or design an offense? He's never done it anywhere, certainly not here.

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The beatings will continue until morale improves.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> I know Colonel. But what I'm saying is instead of
> doing that, that if you know you are going to hire
> someone else and the team loves this guy, you let
> him make a graceful exit PRIOR to hiring or maybe
> even interviewing someone else. Other posters
> have FOR DIFFERENT REASONS indicated that we
> should have waited until the playoffs had
> concluded to hire a coach. They did so in hopes
> of getting the maximum field of candidates from
> which to choose. I agree with that also. but
> also, this would have been the time to let
> Campbell gracefully exit.
>
> This is all to say again that Ross is an idiot.
> The fact that he does not even have these
> elemental instincts shows how we are doomed.
>
> Right now, Campbell is one of the most embarrassed
> people you can find. There is no need for that.

sorry but what do we owe Dan Cambpell? He was lucky to be named interim HC and only was b/c Philben's staff was an embarrassment and there was no one remotely qualified for the job including DC himself. Campbell did a mediocre to poor job (except for first 2 games, it was frankly Phlibin-esque) and only got the interview as a courtesy. If they didn't interview him it would make it look even worse for him so I don't see how you can find fault with the pity interview. Again, no one anywhere is going to hire him as anything above position coach so it's not like we prevented him from getting another job by interviewing him 4 days after the season ended. Did any one the 6 other teams with openings even call him for an interview? NOPE.

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The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Well, seems the FO (Tannebaum) was talking out of the side of their mouth (again). "Gonna be a very thorough search"...."Leave no rock unturned."

Reports have it that Gase was their first choice all along (and we all know he was Ross' first choice).

Now, as far as doing a thorough search...why was Tom Coughlin never contacted? Why didn't they wait until after this weekend's playoffs? They never went to the college ranks to talk to anyone, i.e., Harbaugh or Mora.

I'm not gonna jump on the "Gase will fail" bandwagon. He just may be the one guy with no HC experience who does well. We can only hope, as I am tired of the losing seasons Miami has had for many years now.;

Time to get back on the winning track.

I am guessing that Gase will be the HC and OC for his first year. He needs to get things going the way he wants it. Once the offense is established, then he will probably get an OC for the 2017 season.

I am guessing that part of his interview was saying just that. Along with him working closely with RT.

Anyway, here's hoping the Fins have finally got it right.

I hope gase succeeds but since he was Ross top choIce that seems impossible that he's the right guy

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The beatings will continue until morale improves.

I hope he succeeds because he is the coach of the Miami Dolphins. Screw Ross.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Agree with everything you say, Cap but I hope you
> don't think I'm on that Gase will fail bandwagon.
> I'm just saying that the whoremonger has botched
> this whole process since he fired Philbin, the guy
> he used to glow about how he had such a personal
> connection with.

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No, Chryen, I don't place you on the "fail bandwagon." In fact, I don't put anyone on that bandwagon. Posters here are voicing their frustrations and making it sound like the fail bandwagon.

However, Gase's first season may not go real well, and if that is the case, I am hoping fans and Dolphins' front office will give him a chance to continue putting his plan together and not get rid of him, even if that "super coach" becomes available. I have a feeling that is why he received that 5-year contract; he probably demanded it to enable him to put this team together, which means time.

No coach should be fired within the first two years, unless they are completely incompetent. I don't think that will be the case with Gase. But, a lot of it will depend on who he gets for assistants.

captkoi Wrote:
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> Well, seems the FO (Tannebaum) was talking out of
> the side of their mouth (again). "Gonna be a very
> thorough search"...."Leave no rock unturned."
>
> Reports have it that Gase was their first choice
> all along (and we all know he was Ross' first
> choice).
>
> Now, as far as doing a thorough search...why was
> Tom Coughlin never contacted?

From what was reported, they studied Coughlin this year and thought he made poor game decisions, weighed with the fact he would only be here a few years and was not a long term solution, they decided against him.

Why didn't they wait
> until after this weekend's playoffs? They never
> went to the college ranks to talk to anyone, i.e.,
> Harbaugh or Mora.

I believe they did look at college coaches but decided not to go that route. College searches are more private because they do not have to get permission from the teams. I never thought Harbaugh would even be an option considering he JUST went to Michigan. The other part I heard is that most of teams looking for a HC this year, wanted someone who could fit in, get along and not rock the boat....in other words, no egos that wanted to run everything. The FO had a structure in mind and did not want to give complete control to a new coach OR have a guy in place that would not get along with the current staff, cause problems within like Harbaugh was reported as doing...

I had the same question about not waiting for playoff coaches. It baffles me. What if Marvin Lewis is fired? That would have been a hell of a "get" to turn things around. Hue Jackson? I don't get it. They fell in love with Gase and his glowing references.

>
> I'm not gonna jump on the "Gase will fail"
> bandwagon. He just may be the one guy with no HC
> experience who does well. We can only hope, as I
> am tired of the losing seasons Miami has had for
> many years now.;

I agree. I've voiced my concerns and will now move on and likely just discuss the plan moving forward. I hope I am wrong about him.

>
> Time to get back on the winning track.
>
> I am guessing that Gase will be the HC and OC for
> his first year. He needs to get things going the
> way he wants it. Once the offense is established,
> then he will probably get an OC for the 2017
> season.

Yup. That's pretty much what Gase said. I look for our OC to be an up and coming guy that gets promoted from a position spot. An established OC will never take the job and not be able to call plays. Gase's offense most closely resembles Mike Martz so probably someone from that coaching tree.

> I am guessing that part of his interview was
> saying just that. Along with him working closely
> with RT.
>
> Anyway, here's hoping the Fins have finally got it
> right.

We all deserve a break! I hope so!



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Bring in a head coach to 'work with' a fifth year dud QB?!?!?! Yea this has success written all over it. Guess his sole job is to dry out our $96,000,000 wet firecracker

KB Wrote:
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> Bring in a head coach to 'work with' a fifth year
> dud QB?!?!?! Yea this has success written all
> over it. Guess his sole job is to dry out our
> $96,000,000 wet firecracker


First thing .......I think its you that needs to dry out for a while bro.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> Right now, Campbell is one of the most embarrassed
> people you can find. There is no need for that.
>
> Nah.
>
>
> I think Campbell righted the ship. He did not sail
> us all the way into port but he righted the ship
> which is saying not a small amount.
>
> Exactly! Which is why he has nothing to be
> embarrassed about.
>
> During the press conference Coach Gase was asked
> about Campbell. He is very popular with the
> players and the fans. And Ross stepped in saying
> that Gase had complete control of his staff and it
> would be up to him if Campbell stayed or went. Be
> interesting to see if Gase is big enough to
> welcome him instead of seeing him as a threat.
>
>
> One Positive thing out of this hire is that The
> Dolphins got exactly the man they wanted for the
> job good or bad. In the past they were seen
> begging people , flying to THEM and they were
> turned down. Philbin was not even a top 3rd choice
> I believe he was like 5th on the list and they
> were desperate by that time and signed him.
>
> Gase had 6 teams lined up in interviews and he
> choose Miami in part because of pieces in place
> like Ryan Tannehill, Laundry, Parker , and SUH.
> That's a positive that might attract exemplary
> coordinators and staff. I only hope that Campbell
> stays a part of it all.


Best post in this whole thread. Can't agree more. Go Phins !

"Ross is a Jets fan down deep."

Maybe not so deep.

Rick

ChyrenB, You are making an unwarranted assumption here. You have NO IDEA what the interplay between Campbell and the front office was. It would have been far more embarrassing if the team had not interviewed him at all, so this could have been a face-saving move in a situation where he did know he wouldn't be retained as head coach. Who knows.

Rick

"whoremonger"!?

Where did this come from?

Rick

We didn't need to hire a HC to work with the Qb. We needed an experienced coach to change the culture and lead this team. Tannehill needs Patches O'houlihan to teach him how to dodge rushers...not a HC.

Fail.org

So they're saying Gase has final say of the roster. I hope he demands a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round.

Nothing says we're changing the culture by doing the same thing for the 4th time.

I won't quit watching and will hope for the best but I really am not holding out much hope.

Gase has final say on the 53 man roster BUT that does not mean he will be picking players. That distinction holds little power.

Grier will be bringing in all the players and Gase will determine who makes the team and who starts.

Meaning: Gase will only have say in the bottom of the roster. No way Gase is cutting a top draft pick or a big ticket FA.

It means very little.

AS MT said, choosing players will be a collaborative effort BUT it will be Grier who decides who to draft/sign. Grier is also the one who preached competition at every position.

jsm08 Wrote:
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> So they're saying Gase has final say of the
> roster. I hope he demands a QB in the 2nd or 3rd
> round.
>
> Nothing says we're changing the culture by doing
> the same thing for the 4th time.
>
> I won't quit watching and will hope for the best
> but I really am not holding out much hope.



Yeah.....because we really have a hole to fill at QB. I think a second or third round pick would be much better used on a O lineman, a MLB or CB? You need to get your priorities straight Bro.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

dolphan4545 Wrote:
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> ChyrenB, You are making an unwarranted assumption
> here. You have NO IDEA what the interplay between
> Campbell and the front office was. It would have
> been far more embarrassing if the team had not
> interviewed him at all, so this could have been a
> face-saving move in a situation where he did know
> he wouldn't be retained as head coach. Who knows.


None of us really knows. Even if something is reported in the newspapers, it could be a lie put out by the organization to cover its behind.

No, I don't know. But I know if I were Ross, I would

FIRST waited until after the playoffs,

Secondly, I would HAVE DECIDED ON Campbell or No Campbell, instead of making him part of the interview process and I would have done so BEFORE the interview process began.

If I decided no, obviously, I would thank him for his service even before the search began but after the season for the Dolphins but before the playoffs.


But if you think this is less embarrassing then it's a matter of personal preference.

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> jsm08
> Yeah.....because we really have a hole to fill at
> QB. I think a second or third round pick would
> be much better used on a O lineman, a MLB or CB?
> You need to get your priorities straight Bro.

Hmmmm where have I heard that before?...uh...lets see...oh yea. From a few on this board FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS! Come on man.

Treasure, if YET AGAIN we draft linemen and DBs, STILL finish without a winning record a Hennehill STILL shows a propensity for nothing other than staying stone faced and running up meaningless stats at garbage time will you THEN be ready to give up on this guy? What's it gonna take? Haste looks like nothing but an attempt by Ross and Tannenbaum to salvage a HUGE contract they gave out undeservedly. Hope I'm wrong but based on Ross' decisions thus far is bet I'm not.

Tannehill would be just fine, in fact, pretty good in a read option offense.

KB Wrote:
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> TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > jsm08
> > Yeah.....because we really have a hole to fill
> at
> > QB. I think a second or third round pick
> would
> > be much better used on a O lineman, a MLB or
> CB?
> > You need to get your priorities straight
> Bro.
>
> Hmmmm where have I heard that before?...uh...lets
> see...oh yea. From a few on this board FOR THE
> LAST 10 YEARS! Come on man.
>
> Treasure, if YET AGAIN we draft linemen and DBs,
> STILL finish without a winning record a Tannehill
> STILL shows a propensity for nothing other than
> staying stone faced and running up meaningless
> stats at garbage time will you THEN be ready to
> give up on this guy? What's it gonna take? Haste
> looks like nothing but an attempt by Ross and
> Tannenbaum to salvage a HUGE contract they gave
> out undeservedly. Hope I'm wrong but based on
> Ross' decisions thus far is bet I'm not.

NO. Because you have to draft the RIGHT offensive line players. Jason Fox and Dallas Thomas SUCK like crack whores. Ju'an James and Mike Pouncey , yeah you get 2-3 more lineman up to their quality of play , not leaving Tannehill at 3rd and long because of stupid holding penalties every drive , opening holes for RB's to keep the Blitz honest yeah, if Tannehill (who threw for over 4000 yds ) and a defense not giving up 30 yd bombs , Tannehill will KILL IT.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

Nobody will be as bad as Philbin was but we shall see.

Gase needs to first and foremost find a way to get 52 players to give the effort of 1...Jarvis Landry each play. Even if he can only get them up to 80% of that level we will be a much better team.