Another thing I can tell from Campbell's presser, our coach can beat up all the other coaches in our division.

Campbell gets us thru the season and gets canned, like Campbell's. Anyway no way in hell anyone who was an intern 5 years ago is going to be an nfl head coach. Guy is going to get his clock cleaned. Represents how bad Philbin selected his position coaches as I said yesterday the avg nlf experience for our coaches were around 3 years.

mizzou15 Wrote:
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> Campbell gets us thru the season and gets canned,
> like Campbell's. Anyway no way in hell anyone who
> was an intern 5 years ago is going to be an nfl
> head coach. Guy is going to get his clock cleaned.
>

Maybe, but let's give the guy a little more credit than just being an intern. They guy also put in 10 years as a *player* in the NFL, and has a SB ring.

Lots of red meat from Campbell, which Dolfans and the media loves. But now the hard work of winning games needs to happen. It will be interesting to see what changes Campbell makes.

mizzou15 Wrote:
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> Campbell gets us thru the season and gets canned,
> like Campbell's. Anyway no way in hell anyone who
> was an intern 5 years ago is going to be an nfl
> head coach. Guy is going to get his clock cleaned.
> Represents how bad Philbin selected his position
> coaches as I said yesterday the avg nlf experience
> for our coaches were around 3 years.


First off, yes he has only been coaching 5 years.. But he was playing just 6 years ago.. He was also the only guy to survive the Sparano regime change, and is therefore the longest tenured guy in our entire organization.. HE was a player who got his job here because of glowing endorsments from his previous coaches, Sean Peyton and Bill Parcells... He loved the game so much he took an internship just to get a shot. And in one year turned that internship into a positions coach job.. And all the reigmes have liked him so much since, he has been through 3 offensive coordinators and 2 HC's and never got fired. Sorry but you don't survive all that by accident. He reminds me of a John Harbaugh type of hiring by the Ravens.. He was a special teams coordinator and defensive backs coach for one year before being hired as the HC of the Ravens... Give him a chance, I woudlnt write him off so quick...

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When a military commander is relieved of command, the replacement may be the next in line grade wise, or some upstart that shows tremendous ability but lacks the time in grade or the appropriate grade to take the helm. That's why during WW2 lots of very competent NCOs and junior officers with battle experience and smarts to stay alive were promoted to lead in battle. They were put to the test--trial by fire. Many succeeded, some did not.

What we have here is something similar. We had a HC that showed little ability to motivate men and to devise plans that could be executed on game day. The fans, assistant coaches, and players saw this. They all became ineffective as a team because of it. Firing Philbin today had to be done. Replacing him with an upstart has happened and only time will tell if he has what it takes to make a positive change in the locker room and on the field. He has to be all the things that Philbin wasn't.

I'm encouraged by the change.

colonel Wrote:
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> When a military commander is relieved of command,
> the replacement may be the next in line grade
> wise, or some upstart that shows tremendous
> ability but lacks the time in grade or the
> appropriate grade to take the helm. That's why
> during WW2 lots of very competent NCOs and junior
> officers with battle experience and smarts to stay
> alive were promoted to lead in battle. They were
> put to the test--trial by fire. Many succeeded,
> some did not.
>
> What we have here is something similar. We had a
> HC that showed little ability to motivate men and
> to devise plans that could be executed on game
> day. The fans, assistant coaches, and players saw
> this. They all became ineffective as a team
> because of it. Firing Philbin today had to be
> done. Replacing him with an upstart has happened
> and only time will tell if he has what it takes to
> make a positive change in the locker room and on
> the field. He has to be all the things that
> Philbin wasn't.
>
> I'm encouraged by the change.


Good explanation Colonel.. I am also encouraged by the change. I like that Cambell has some piss and vinegar, he seems to be a leader of men... I did not feel the same about Philbin.. He was a nice guy, but I woudnt want to be following Philbin into battle with my life on the line...

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colonel Wrote:
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> Opinions will vary on whether firing Philbin was
> the best thing to do at this stage of the season.
>
>
> Mine is that it was the best thing to do right
> now. Any interim coach will have his hands full.
> We can't expect miracles, but what I do want to
> see is passion and effort the next time out, win
> or lose.
>
> The search for a top HC is on. What the players
> do to react to Coach Campbell may play a great
> deal on what prospect wants to take a chance
> coaching in Miami with these players and owner.
>
>
> Good luck Coach Campbell.

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Well, Colonel, what you said about wanting to see passion and effort...if the team had shown that this season, Philbin would still be coaching. He would last the season, and if the Fins have made no improvement (record-wise/playoffs) then Philbin would have been let go at the end of the season.

As it is, this team is showing nothing, absolutely nothing. Philbin had to go, and I see Coyle following him, very shortly.

Not expecting much from here on out, except more "passion" from this team, showing that they want to win.

I believe if this team (Campbell) plays to its strengths, they will do just fine.

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> I highly doubt the coordinators will be changed
> midseason. I can not remember a head coach being
> fired and either offensive or defensive
> coordinator changed at the same time. A new
> Offensive or defensive system is installed in the
> offseason.

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It may be the norm that coordinators are not let go until after the season when a HC was fired during the season, but I can't see Coyle sticking around. With so much talent on our DLine and they have done nothing, his system is just not working.

He can be released, and another guy can come in and utilize that system, but with "tweaks".

Coyle is gone very shortly.

KB Wrote:
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> Heck to the YEA!! But lets not get all worked up
> like we did this off season. We're still talking
> about an young interim with NO experience. We
> should spend the rest of this year seeing IF (as a
> lot of us suspect) we have more talent then we
> have shown this year.
>
> Even if that proves so, everything has to be taken
> with a grain of salt for a few weeks. For the
> next 2-3 games, the players will be on an
> emotional high, other teams won't know what to
> expect and plan for and then there is the 'Can't
> be any worse' factor.
>
> I HOPE Ross dosen't think this is the FIX. His
> main focus should still be on re-building the
> franchise long term through player evaluation and
> finding a talented, top tier coaching staff.

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I have no doubt that Ross will be looking for the best coach available (or not available). He is a businessman and wants his business to be successful. He has shown that he is willing to pay for top talent. He is on the hunt, as we speak.

Hopefully, by season's end, top talent will be available and Ross will be able to sign the top guy.

JC Wrote:
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> mizzou15 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Campbell gets us thru the season and gets
> canned,
> > like Campbell's. Anyway no way in hell anyone
> who
> > was an intern 5 years ago is going to be an nfl
> > head coach. Guy is going to get his clock
> cleaned.
> >
>
> Maybe, but let's give the guy a little more credit
> than just being an intern. They guy also put in
> 10 years as a *player* in the NFL, and has a SB
> ring.

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Supposedly, Campbell has the players' respect. That carries a lot of weight.

It's a different world when you're 'In Charge'. I Have a hard time believing a guy who has never been a head coach...ANYWHERE and is probably making league minimum is gonna be able to lay down the law to a $95 Million dollar QB or a hot head $114 Million dollar Pro bowl DT...even if he did knock around the league as a TE for a while...

You never know but I hope we are ALREADY in search of long term head coach.

KB Wrote:
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> It's a different world when you're 'In Charge'. I
> Have a hard time believing a guy who has never
> been a head coach...ANYWHERE and is probably
> making league minimum is gonna be able to lay down
> the law to a $95 Million dollar QB or a hot head
> $114 Million dollar Pro bowl DT...even if he did
> knock around the league as a TE for a while...


John Harbaugh did when he was hired by the Ravens.. Not saying Cambell will but it has been done before by a young coach who had never been a HC..

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No Campbell no miracle workers need not apply we have been outcoached at every position on the field. The only reason this guy is head coach and not Lazor is because he cannot call plays. Get thru this season and hire the most nfl experience person out there. This entire staff is getting the pink slip after the season.

Mike Nolan
Mike Singletary
Norv Turner
Mike Shula - I think he is ready
Marc Tresmann

get your resumes up to date

Yes, Campbell is an interim head coach. He should have no expectations of keeping the job. Nor should anyone consider it a mark against him if one of the names Mizzou mentioned are hired at the end of the season.


However, I am still haunted by Todd Bowles.

Todd turned the season around and Ross just ASSUMED that since he was already on our staff, he would not be a good replacement. WRONG!!!!

Ross could make the wrong decision either way.

Crowder52 Wrote:
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> mizzou15 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Campbell gets us thru the season and gets
> canned,
> > like Campbell's. Anyway no way in hell anyone
> who
> > was an intern 5 years ago is going to be an nfl
> > head coach. Guy is going to get his clock
> cleaned.
> > Represents how bad Philbin selected his
> position
> > coaches as I said yesterday the avg nlf
> experience
> > for our coaches were around 3 years.
>
>
> First off, yes he has only been coaching 5 years..
> But he was playing just 6 years ago.. He was also
> the only guy to survive the Sparano regime change,
> and is therefore the longest tenured guy in our
> entire organization.. HE was a player who got his
> job here because of glowing endorsments from his
> previous coaches, Sean Peyton and Bill Parcells...
> He loved the game so much he took an internship
> just to get a shot. And in one year turned that
> internship into a positions coach job.. And all
> the reigmes have liked him so much since, he has
> been through 3 offensive coordinators and 2 HC's
> and never got fired. Sorry but you don't survive
> all that by accident. He reminds me of a John
> Harbaugh type of hiring by the Ravens.. He was a
> special teams coordinator and defensive backs
> coach for one year before being hired as the HC of
> the Ravens... Give him a chance, I woudlnt write
> him off so quick...



Well said Crowder. He certainly deserves a chance and I'm pulling for him.Has to be better then what we had.He said , this is easily the most talented team since he has been here.They need to be motivated. PHILBIN pug me to asleep just looking at him.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

I read this elsewhere on the net:
Campbell taught his dog to pick up his own crap, because he doesn't take any shit from anyone.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

mizzou15 Wrote:
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> Mike Shula - I think he is ready


Wouldn't that one be sweet (if he succeeded of course).

mizzou15 Wrote:
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The only reason this guy is head coach and
> not Lazor is because he cannot call plays.

What? Are you for real with this logic? HC dont call plays? Dont you remember Phiblin never called plays because his HC Mike McCarthy called the plays in GB...SMH... Cambell got the job because he is a coach that can get players to buy in.. They were not sure Lazor could get the players to buy in, that is why he didnt get the job... Cambell seems like a leader, a guy players will rally behind and follow into battle...


> Mike Nolan
> Mike Singletary
> Norv Turner
> Mike Shula - I think he is ready
> Marc Tresmann
>
> get your resumes up to date

Are you for real? I am sure glad you arent hiring our next HC with that line up.. YOu give those guys props telling them to get their resumes ready while dogging on Cambell makes zero sense.. Do I really need to run through those guys miserable failures as Head coaches?

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/05/2015 12:11PM by Crowder52.

Whatever Campbell is the coach because they need Lazor to call plays.
If there was another guy on this staff who knew the offense well enough then I guarentee Lazor would be the HC.

Bowles was ready for the next step he was asst HC for 3 years. His reputation as a good defensive mind was already established. Campbell is not knowles' Was watching espn and they said the Dolphins have a weak staff. Im not dogging Campbell I wish the guy well just as I did Philbin but initially I said that Philbin was a bad hire.

That was one of Philbins problem that he didn't know Jack **** about play calling and getting a team in rythmn and calling plays that fitted your teams strong points.

This guy is no genuis that's the reality.

I would love if he proves me wrong. Im not betting on it.

mizzou15 Wrote:
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> Whatever Campbell is the coach because they need
> Lazor to call plays.
> If there was another guy on this staff who knew
> the offense well enough then I guarentee Lazor
> would be the HC.
>
> Bowles was ready for the next step he was asst HC
> for 3 years. His reputation as a good defensive
> mind was already established. Campbell is not
> knowles' Was watching espn and they said the
> Dolphins have a weak staff. Im not dogging
> Campbell I wish the guy well just as I did Philbin
> but initially I said that Philbin was a bad hire.
>
> That was one of Philbins problem that he didn't
> know Jack **** about play calling and getting a
> team in rythmn and calling plays that fitted your
> teams strong points.
>
> This guy is no genuis that's the reality.
>
> I would love if he proves me wrong. Im not betting
> on it.


I hear ya, and the odds are stacked against Cambell for sure. Ultimately I think they chose Cambell because the players respect him the most.. They wanted to hire someone that wouldnt "lose" the team or players support. Someone the guys will play hard for.. I think that is why they chose Cambell over Lazor..

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Its not the guy who the players respect most its how can we make this change w/ out everything going down the craphole. Lazor has to stay in place to run that offense. Why hasn't Coyle been fired yet? Im not sure there is anyone on the current staff that can coordinate the defense. Maybe Duffner but you see how he handles the lb's not sure he can scheme for the entire defense. If Coyle goes then this ship really goes down the *hole

Yep, the only reason not to fire Coyle, is they dont have someone to fill the position..

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Lazor they could have had call the plays as HC, and fill the OC position with Cambell or someone else.. I dont think the players would have played hard for Lazor... Cambell has everything Philbin didnt as far as a players coach with fight and passion.... Lazor doesnt have that... Phiblin was fired because he lost the team and he didnt motivate the players to play hard....

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> Mike Nolan
> Mike Singletary
> Norv Turner
> Mike Shula - I think he is ready
> Marc Tresmann

all of these guys have good football minds and can bring in qualified coordinators & assistants who want to work for them. Yes they have had setbacks but they are not losers nor do they tolerate them.

We will see what Campbell brings but its playoffs or bust. I will give him this tight end has been the best coached position on the team but as Chris Carter pointed out its a big jump from coaching a position to coaching the entire team.

All those guys proved they are not very good head coaches, just good coordinators... They have been given a chance and failed miserably, all of them.. As in down in flames in a bad way.... I would hire any of them in a second to be coordinators, I wouldnt touch any of them to be a head coach... And I promise you, we will not hire anyone on that list to be our next head coach...

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god forbid we hire one of those retread coaches

I am not sure Cambell needs to make the play offs, but if he takes over a 1-3 team and we go 9-7 or better I think there is a good chance he gets another year.. At this point that is a serious long shot to do that type of turn around. But to have the first winning season since 2008, after being handed the team in a 1-3 whole, would carry a lot of weight IMO.. Head coaches with winning records rarely get fired...

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It depends Crowder. I think on who is available next season. If Campbell does decent and a better option isn't available , he stays.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!