I don't remember this guy at all. I thought I'd blocked him from memory Then I looked up his stats. Played two games for us and posted a 2.4 ypc.

I don't think of him as a "former Dolphin". Just an experiment gone wrong by JJ.

Remember Cecil the diesel? JJ was trying hard to get Dan Marino that ring but he was looking under the wrong rocks for runningbacks........What a waste of potential .

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

You got that right. Those were lean years for RB's but not completely void of talent.

1996: Selected KA Jabaar at pick 80, Stanley Pritchett at 118. Jerris McPhail at 134. Best RB that year was Stephen Davis @ 102. SD was the only good RB that year that we had a shot at getting. Very bad RB draft.

1997: Selected Yatil Green at 15. Passed on Antowain Smith @ 23, Tiki Barber at 36, Corey Dillon at 43, Duce Staley at 71.

1998: Traded from 19 to 29 to take John Avery, Passed on Skip Hicks @ 69, Ahman Green at 76. Not much to choose from at the top.

1999: Traded from 24 to 27 and then again to 39 to take JJ Johnson. Took Rob Konrad @ 40, Cecil Collins @ 134. Passed over Kevin Faulk 46, Joe Montgomery 49. Another VERY lean year for RB talent.

Wow...JJ took 5 HB's and 2 FB's in 4 years in search of a RB. His down fall was trying to force the running game in the beginning when you have an offensive line that can only pass protect. However, he could not find a WR to save his life either so....He did pass on lots of WR talent and drafted 4 WR's who combined for about 10 receptions in the NFL.

The 98 deal has the added sting of taking us out of position to pick Randy Moss. Good thing Larry Shannon had just as incredible a career.

JJ was a genius drafter though.......

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> JJ was a genius drafter though.......


For defense....


He was a mickey mouse for offense.

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He killed it on the Cowboys. (Aiken, Smith, and Irving are all HOFs)

If only JJ saw potential in Terrell Davis first. That's the ONLY reason Elway got a ring and is considered a mile high over Marino. (pun intended). I think he was drafted in the 6th round in JJ's first draft?

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

TC i dont think he hit on even 1 player for us on offense.

I think he felt constrained on the offense because of Marino. He felt stuck with him. and ultimately his heart wasn't in it after he built us a great defense. But I'll always respect him because he never coached again and his reasons for leaving were admirable.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

I always figured JJ was just lucky in drafting in Dallas. Right time, right place.

I painfully remember that draft where we blew the chance to get Randy Moss.

John Avery Anyone?

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> I always figured JJ was just lucky in drafting in
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Lucky 3 times......no. He was extremely motivated and had the pulse of the college dratees. He also understood the new era of the salary cap early on. He just lost the eye of the tiger by the time he moved to Miami.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

In Dallas he was also the beneficiary of the Herschel Walker trade which netted the Cowboys a boatload of draft picks from Minnesota.

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The Clown Show Continues



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> In Dallas he was also the beneficiary of the
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Beneficiary ? LOL. He orchestrated it! Jimmy single handily build one of the greatest football dynasty's in modern times. They kept on winning even after he left.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

I used to resent Jimmy and still do a bit BUT I also like him as a person and respect what he did in Dallas BUT there is also always a bit of luck involved.

He had the #1 overall pick in 1989 and took Aikman. No brainer.

They already had Michael Irvin, who Jimmy tried to trade to Al Davis but Davis talked him out of it. Lucky for JJ. That may have derailed the entire offense.

The Herschal Walker trade is largely overblown but it did net them some great players. Just not as many as most people think.

He used the #21 he got to trade up to 17 for Emmitt Smith and used a 2nd for Darren Woodson. He also used a couple of the other picks to get Russell Maryland and Alvin Harper.

Harper was decent but certainly not in the category of the other acquisitions. He never had more than 821 yards in a season.

Getting Maryland was a good move since they traded up to #1 overall to get him.

The impressive part to me is how he built a great o-line and defense with mid to late round picks.

And as far understanding the salary cap era early on....Jimmy was not even in the league for the first two years of the salary cap (94 & 95) so that had nothing to do with his success in Dallas.



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> I painfully remember that draft where we blew the
> chance to get Randy Moss.


I remember that day like it was today...


I was sitting in front of the tv.....Moss was falling and all i had in my mind was........He is going to fall to us.....he is going to fall to us...

Then it happened...Jimmy traded down...Yikes..

The devante parker pick has been the only pick ever that i wanted from the beginning....Months before the draft.....And we actually got him.

1998 rivals THE worst draft in Dolphin history.

JJ trades away 19 for 29 & 60. We get John Avery and 60 turns into another trade for #79-Brad Jackson, #143-Scott Shaw & #172-John Dutton.

All flops.

At 49 we get Kenny Mixon, at 82 we get Larry Shannon. Lorenzo Bromell at 102, Nathan Strikwerda at 171. Jim Bundren at 210.

All flops.

He gave up #23 in the 2000 draft to move up and take Surtain at pick 44 which was a good move in hindsight considering the lack of talent in 2000. That may have been one of the worst draft classes in NFL history.

One friggin player out of 10 draft picks!

I lost no sleep (and still don't) over head case Randy Moss. I cannot stand that type of player. Forget that idiot. I take Hines Ward over him any day.

We could have had....

19 Alan Faneca
49 Olin Kreutz
82 Hines Ward
102 Jason Fabini
171 Matt Birk


Just draft a whole damn o-line....LOL

You must almost be as old as me, SamSam.