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Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: April 22, 2009 02:10AM

Its official. SI is reporting Harvin and Tate tested positive for marijuana at the combine. How stupid can you be?

What will this do for their draft stock?

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: April 22, 2009 02:34AM

Geez...at the combine? How dumb are these guys?

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: Phinjim ()
Date: April 22, 2009 02:54AM

That's a pretty expensive joint. Wonder what the dollar value for the draft slide comes to?

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: DaytonaDolfan13 ()
Date: April 22, 2009 04:58AM

HMMMMM.

Since we know how testing positive can ruin seasons, I think its a MAJOR ISSUE.

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: April 22, 2009 05:03AM

don't be shocked if the PATRIOTS go after Harvin now.

Belichieck is very close friends with both Florida coaches Urban Myer and Billy Donavon. He is tight with a lot of people at Florida. Belichick might roll the dice on a guy like Harvin and try and "steal" a Top 10 talent late in Rd 1. Having Urban on his side Belichick might be able to sit the kid down and get through to him like no one of the other 31 coaches could.

Imagine a healthy Brady throwing to Moss, Welker, and Harvin. Jesus Christ they would break their own NFL Scoring record

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: April 22, 2009 05:30AM

Harvin might fall out of the first 2 rounds.


It shows your lack of intelligence when you fail a freakin drug test at the combine. Teams will back off.

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: April 22, 2009 06:10AM


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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: April 22, 2009 06:47AM

Warren Sapp never failed a test though. Those were just "RUMORS"

Harvin FAILED THE TEST!! Huge difference.

Harvin is such a great talent though that some team (especially one with multiple picks in Rds 1 and 2) will roll the dice on him.

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: Miami Reppa ()
Date: April 22, 2009 07:36AM

I dont understand why people make such a big deal about this. How many sports announcers, media figures and cats calling the shots did their fair share of alcohol and drugs in college. Infact I think that a marijuana test is unfair in that it 1)stays in your system for a month and 2) i think they can now use hair samples where they can trace it back 2-3 months, what other drug can you trace that far back? How many people on this sight did drugs or puffed down a few trees? How about your at a club stop with your homies and you happen to be around some second had smoke, who long will that stay in your system?

Here is what I see, i see a guy that played a hell of a lot of rb in college and is still an outstanding receiver with the strength to get off the line and the speed to take it the distance. He stays in top shape and lost 10 pounds or so to run a fast 40. And he gave florida all he had on the field to win his team a championship and I think he had a badly sprained ankle or something to that effect. He is a winner, people may fault his judgment but at his age what do you expect, who is innocent of doing drugs at his age. The hypocracy kills me. If I were a GM/HC interested in him it would not phase me at all...



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 04/22/2009 07:39AM by Miami Reppa.

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Date: April 22, 2009 08:16AM

can you say the raiders and DALLAS!!!! i bet dallas takes him in second round or the bears IF he is around. i wouldnt make him top 20 do to the fact he will prob be suspended 2 or 3 games, so thats the drop in rankings that accounts for it, who wants to spend premium dollar on a suspension? hell he might drop to us at 44, instead of nicks.

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: April 22, 2009 08:40AM

Miami Reppa Wrote:
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> I dont understand why people make such a big deal
> about this. How many sports announcers, media
> figures and cats calling the shots did their fair
> share of alcohol and drugs in college. Infact I
> think that a marijuana test is unfair in that it
> 1)stays in your system for a month and 2) i think
> they can now use hair samples where they can trace
> it back 2-3 months, what other drug can you trace
> that far back? How many people on this sight did
> drugs or puffed down a few trees? How about your
> at a club stop with your homies and you happen to
> be around some second had smoke, who long will
> that stay in your system?
>
> Here is what I see, i see a guy that played a hell
> of a lot of rb in college and is still an
> outstanding receiver with the strength to get off
> the line and the speed to take it the distance.
> He stays in top shape and lost 10 pounds or so to
> run a fast 40. And he gave florida all he had on
> the field to win his team a championship and I
> think he had a badly sprained ankle or something
> to that effect. He is a winner, people may fault
> his judgment but at his age what do you expect,
> who is innocent of doing drugs at his age. The
> hypocracy kills me. If I were a GM/HC interested
> in him it would not phase me at all...

I agree in theory Reppa. The thing that would keep me from taking him is just plain stupidity. How smart are you if you smoke dope right before you know you are going to be tested and that it may cost you MILLIONS of dollars? What is to stop you from doing it again when you are an employee of the NFL and have to sit out 4 games or a season like Ricky Williams?

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: April 22, 2009 08:59AM


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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: April 22, 2009 09:05AM

smiling bouncing smiley

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: tboneabbott ()
Date: April 22, 2009 09:19AM

These two idiots, can smoke all the marijuana they want. I just do not want them playing for the Miami Dolphins

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
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Date: April 22, 2009 09:22AM


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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: April 22, 2009 10:04AM

JC,

I guess I misunderstood your intent. Sorry for freaking out!

It just seemed as though there has been a lot of censorship, power trips and hand slapping on here lately and I guess it wore on me. Maybe I'm just more stressed than usual.

Again, sorry for overreacting.

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: April 22, 2009 10:11AM

Saturday can't come fast enough.

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: JC ()
Date: April 22, 2009 10:14AM

eesti Wrote:
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> JC,
>
> I guess I misunderstood your intent. Sorry for
> freaking out!
>
> It just seemed as though there has been a lot of
> censorship, power trips and hand slapping on here
> lately and I guess it wore on me. Maybe I'm just
> more stressed than usual.
>
> Again, sorry for overreacting.



Not a problem at all, I should have been more clear myself.

Onward, and go Phins.

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: Miami Reppa ()
Date: April 22, 2009 10:54AM

eesti Wrote:
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> I agree in theory Reppa. The thing that would
> keep me from taking him is just plain stupidity.
> How smart are you if you smoke dope right before
> you know you are going to be tested and that it
> may cost you MILLIONS of dollars? What is to stop
> you from doing it again when you are an employee
> of the NFL and have to sit out 4 games or a season
> like Ricky Williams?

Let me rephrase it a bit... You only fail a crack/cocaine test if you did it 2-4 days prior to a test, where as marajuania can be detected in your body for far back as 45-90 days or 1.5 to 3 months prior (depending on how long used). So that means that harvin could have hit a blunt way back in christmas and say me another athlete could have been high on crack/cocaine and as long as I dont use it for 3-4 days prior to the combine (Feb) I can come up clean where harvin would fail. My basic point is I dont think that harvin got high and said hey what time is it? O Sh!t im late to the combine let me roll out. The test that they use can detect traces of marajuana from weeks to months back. So dont think that harvin is so dumb to smoke weed a few days before the combine, if it happened I would be willing to bet it was better that 3 weeks prior...

It is unfortunate that there are much worst drugs to be on than marijuana but this is the only one that they chose to advance, the others are much easier to beat (with the exception of steroids)- which they can detect from 3 weeks to as long ago as 18 months... damn!

Point, other athletes at the combine are on other drugs it is just that steroids and marijuana will catch you the others are relatively primitive and as long as you stop 3-4 days prior to the test you will pass.

REPP-ology::: Therefore it is not a matter of being dumb it is a matter of using the wrong drug.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/22/2009 10:56AM by Miami Reppa.

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: Miami Reppa ()
Date: April 22, 2009 10:55AM

I do agree that if he does not learn his lesson and continues to use it suspensions could be a problem for what ever team that drafts him...

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: April 22, 2009 11:28AM

yeah and Marijuana is not a performance enhancing drug so the NFL should just mind their own business anyway.

The other thing is mj may be able to be detected for up to 90 days back but only if you use it frequently enough so that it stays in your system. If you smoke a doobie once and get a drug test 2 weeks later, chances are it is not going to show up unless they do a hair strand test and maybe not even then....from what I hear anyway. winking smiley

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Date: April 22, 2009 02:41PM

coaches dont care he is still going to go in first. before we get him teams are desperate for talent. period.

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: April 22, 2009 02:51PM

the point is not that they smoked pot--I agree I could give 2 sh$ts whether someone does (and it would be highly hypocritical of me to do so, if you know what I mean). The point is that he smoked before--even if 90 days before or however long it takes to get out of your system--the BIGGEST job interview of his life. These guys have been planning to go to the NFL their entire lives. By failing it shows (1) they are completely retarded or (2) they just don't care. Either way I don't want to blow a high pick on them. However I would take Harvin in the 3d round on the chance he can be taught to grow up. No "higher" though.

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Date: April 22, 2009 03:24PM


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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: April 22, 2009 04:03PM

Harvin is an idiot and can't be trusted. Who needs the headache of a young adult who can't stay away from the weed. Especially right before a HUGE job interview which will result in him making millions.

No need for that kind of STUPID on the Dolphins

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: April 22, 2009 04:59PM

and you still want Ricky on the team and suppot him as a phin?

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: April 22, 2009 08:31PM

no i hate Ricky. I want him gone. But I have come to the conclusion he must have pictures on somebody cause about 5 coaches now (Wanny, Bates, Saban, Cam, Sprano) refuse to release him or let him go.

And I know him and his mother Sandy personally. She used to write for my website. Good lady. He is a decent guy. But Im not a big fan of him and his past actions

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: April 23, 2009 02:24AM

Has anybody heard of Percy living in so-called PercyWorld all the time?

I have heard Todd McShay say it a plenty on Sportscenter. He mentions how Percy thinks its all about him.

These are *HUGE* flags....I agree I wouldnt touch him before #56. I dont think BP will either.

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: April 23, 2009 02:40AM

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Has anybody heard of Percy living in so-called
> PercyWorld all the time?
>
> I have heard Todd McShay say it a plenty on
> Sportscenter. He mentions how Percy thinks its all
> about him.
>
> These are *HUGE* flags....I agree I wouldnt touch
> him before #56. I dont think BP will either.


Can you say T.O.?

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Re: Harvin and Tate test positive....
Date: April 23, 2009 03:56AM

OHHHH YEAH but if you get em young you can train em.

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