maybe you know him maybe you dont, but looking at some numbers, and at his history, OLB willie williams, who is draft elgiable, ran 40 in a 4.54 did one more rep than curry, and is 6'3 230 pounds, was supposed to be a top college LB in Miami but had a very interesting college career to say the least, anyway i belive the man could come in late in the draft around 5th through 7th, and be A HUGE plus for us, and at a steal of the century. well what is your thoughts on him, and if we should take him, i feel him with say mathews, or english, or laurinitous, would give us the best LB core in the league, with porter and wake.

The best steal ever was dan marino. Period.

Kurt Warner undrafted has to be a close 2nd.

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Undrafted Devone Bess is a close 3rd......

bwahahaha!!

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Phinsfan2 Wrote:
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> samsam3738 Wrote:
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> > The best steal ever was dan marino. Period.
>
> For Miami maybe, but getting Tom Brady in the
> sixth round seems better to me.




Sorry but to me dan is the best pick....

Brady just has a better team around him. He will never be dan marino.

If i had a choice of picking dan or brady #1 overall right now, knowing how good both were, i would pick dan all day.

God knows how many superbowls dan would had won if he had as good a team as brady did.

Thats why brady was picked in the 6th and dan in the 1st..

PS. Dan had players like karim abdull jabbar as the starting RB for god sakes. That says it all. OH and no defense. Made Slowish WR OJ mcduffie look like a superstar.

I would take Marino over Brady as well but dropping 17 spots in the draft compared to 199 spots is not a contest. Brady is the steal.

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Sorry phinfan2....To me dan is the biggest steal of alltime. I might be the biggest dolphins homer of alltime but thats the way i feel.

And i know exactly what you mean. I know value wise. I understand...

Just a note...if you'd ask me who would i want....Dan in the first or brady in the sixth or vice versa id pick dan anyday.

Like I said, no player is perfect. Dan didn't do play action well and he didn't run well. He did everything else well. He certainly did more than what was required to win titles. The problem is that the rest of the team didn't.

I love Shula, and think he was a great coach; but truth be told - the Dolphins first round draft choices from 1984 to 1989 were unbelievably terrible. Six out of seven of the first round picks from that time period were flops. Not just marginal players - they were flops. The only decent player was Louis Oliver. Had we hit on half of those picks, Dan may have had multiple rings in his career.

WHAT?!?

Sure Miami used a 1st round and NE used a 6th...but there is no comparison.

Tom Brady is an execellent QB. No doubt. He has been 'decent' when he had no run game, and average WR's, and he has been 'excellent' when he has had Moss and Rb's. not to mention a very good defense.

Dan Marino had a few seasons with good/great WR's. he NEVER had a running game or defence to support him, and even when all he had was one possession WR that was being double and triple teamed, Dan still got OJ McDuffie the ball a league leading 90 times.

Tom Brady plays excellent in a solid system. and as Don once said..."Dan Marino is a system"

no comparison.

phew....that feels better....I almost had an aneurism.

good post Sam, sorry I posted before I read yours. I almost had a heart attack and just hit reply.

good points

let's keep it in football.

If you were the GM of a timetravel league would you take Dan Marino with your 1st round pick or Tom brady with your 6th round?

I understand value of picks but you can't ignore value of talent.

Can Tom carry a team the way Dan did? I don't think so.

Tom Brady would have been a big bruise if he had to play behind the Miami team marino did.

Add to that olivadotti's sorry excuse for a defense, and you have a qb that did it possession after possession to keep the fins in games they would have not been competetive in without him.

Brady also got years to prepare, Dan stepped in year 1.

Exactly phinjim, realist.......

Dick "Night Train" Lane, Willie Brown, & Marion Motley *ALL HALL OF FAMERS* were undrafted. And thats back in the day when they had 500 rounds.


Now that is what you call a bargain.

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eesti Wrote:
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> Tom Brady plays excellent in a solid system. and
> as Don once said..."Dan Marino is a system"
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> Actually that was Bill Walsh and he said...
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> Joe Montana was a product of a system, Dan Marino
> WAS a system."

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realist Wrote:
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> let's keep it in football.
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> If you were the GM of a timetravel league would
> you take Dan Marino with your 1st round pick or
> Tom brady with your 6th round?
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> I understand value of picks but you can't ignore
> value of talent.
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> Can Tom carry a team the way Dan did? I don't
> think so.

Take them both. Let Brady learn from Dan, and trade Dan while he still has value later in his career (ala Brett Favre). Then we'd have 2 great QBs back-to-back, if that even works considering how much younger Brady is than Marino.

Of course, if I was that GM, I would have drafted Drew Brees and Randy Moss when we had the chance. I'd consider those guys major steals as well, considering where they were drafted.