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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 05, 2015 03:08PM

and Chyren says....let me change the subject to redirect you from the stance I took that i can't really defend with facts or stats. smiling smiley

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: March 05, 2015 05:19PM

Jason La Canfora@JasonLaCanfora ยท 2h 2 hours ago
Look for Suh deal to be massive. I keep hearing$17M/year and $60M-plus guaranteed. If he doesn't land in Miami won't be for lack of effort

<<<gulp>>>.......I'm starting to feel quessy, that is a lot of coin

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 05, 2015 06:00PM

LOL. Redirect? My only comment on this thread was about Donkey Kong Soo!

And.....I posted a link to back it up.

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 06, 2015 07:45AM


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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 06, 2015 09:53AM

Again, I was 12 years old when the Nation held it's breath in 1961 when Mickey Mantle signed for the staggering amount of $100,000 a year.

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: March 06, 2015 10:39AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Again, I was 12 years old when the Nation held
> it's breath in 1961 when Mickey Mantle signed for
> the staggering amount of $100,000 a year.


LOL chren but a house was worth 25 grand...back then. A car maybe 2 grand. Brand new.

Now a house is worth 25 mill.

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 06, 2015 11:26AM

You know. I thought about prices and inflation myself when I posted. But a gallon of gas was about 15 cents at that time in 1961 (may have even been less because I was an elementary school kid and when I was a teenager and started paying attention to those type of things it was .15 cents).

Now it's what about $4.00 a gallon (and that's out here in California), about 27 times more. So multiply $100,000 by 27 equals $2,700,000 a year salary.

That's not the top salary in all of professional sports today as was Mickey Mantle's salary was the top in all sports in 1961.

Nowhere near it.

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 06, 2015 11:31AM

Wow. I concentrated on the house and just now saw you thinking a car was $2,000. In 1961, it was more like between $500 and a $1000 for the average car. And the average house was about $6000 grand.

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: March 06, 2015 11:56AM


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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 06, 2015 12:30PM

Average but not in Lawton, Oklahoma where I was as a 13 year old in 1961. Got those figures? That's what I was going on.

Whoa! And I remember in the 1970's gas being about 25 cents a gallon even in California, when I was driving.

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 06, 2015 12:40PM

But using your SALARY figures, Mantle would only make $1.9 million today. So considering your SALARY figures, I actually overstated what Mantle's salary would translate into today.

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: March 07, 2015 08:04AM

Andrew Brandt ?@adbrandt 2m2 minutes ago
Suh has real opportunity for game-changing contract. Pre-qualify bidders by requiring fully guaranteed contract. Has leverage to do it.

^Anybody have an appetite for this^? ........Let's not get stupid boys

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: March 07, 2015 08:19AM

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> Andrew Brandt ?@adbrandt 2m2 minutes ago
> Suh has real opportunity for game-changing
> contract. Pre-qualify bidders by requiring fully
> guaranteed contract. Has leverage to do it.
>
> ^Anybody have an appetite for this^? ........Let's
> not get stupid boys


Hell no.

Anybody who gives him a fully guaranteed contract for 6 years $115-120m is clinically insane.

I wouldn't even give that contract to JJ watt. winking smiley


Now if its a 3 year deal, thats a different story. Just better hope he doesn't get hurt.

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 07, 2015 08:19AM

Chargers to take a run at Suh...26 mil in cap space

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: FootballGod ()
Date: March 07, 2015 10:48AM

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Chargers to take a run at Suh...26 mil in cap
> space

No need to worry about the Chargers. Suh will not sign with a California team due to state income tax. You can take that as a guarantee.

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: March 07, 2015 02:43PM

Cover32 Dolphins ?@cover32_MIA 2h2 hours ago
RUMOR MILL: @ndamukongsuh signing with the #MiamiDolphins is basically a done deal:

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 08, 2015 06:31AM

samsam, then it ain't happening
anyone else think this is a ploy to get more $$ from DET or some other team? no news is leaked at this time without an agenda. everyone knows ross can be played like a fiddle to get more money elsewher

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: March 08, 2015 06:59AM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> samsam, then it ain't happening
> anyone else think this is a ploy to get more $$
> from DET or some other team? no news is leaked at
> this time without an agenda. everyone knows ross
> can be played like a fiddle to get more money
> elsewher


You are right Berk. We'd be much better off if Ross just put his money back in the vault and didn't get involved with pursuing any FA talent.

You do realize that when we get involved in bidding on a player and drive up the cost its a GOOD thing when another team beats us with an even more absurd offer...right? We don't get stuck with a ridiculous contract and someone else does, making it harder for them to sign other players.

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 08, 2015 07:25AM

Detroit has 17 mil in cap space. Already paying 17 mil each for QB and WR. Have FA starters at 3 DT spots, CB, G C...

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 08, 2015 09:22AM

Guess I was wrong if reports today are true we signed suh

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: March 08, 2015 12:37PM

if suh doesnt work out then at least we die trying...


We got to do something to change the culture of this team...



We got to draft receivers OLine men and Lbs....Maybe a cb.

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 08, 2015 03:27PM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> if suh doesnt work out then at least we die
> trying...
>
>
> We got to do something to change the culture of
> this team...
>
>
>
> We got to draft receivers OLine men and
> Lbs....Maybe a cb.

Right! Albert Einstein said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and getting the same result but expecting a different result by repeating it.

I think it's more the definition of stupidity.

The Dolphins are more stupid than insane.

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 08, 2015 04:14PM

Well in fairness the fins have given out huge fa contracts before but never to someone young uninjured and the best at his position. I'll take the suh deal over Wallace any day of the week

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: March 09, 2015 03:52AM

Chren nothing wrong with signing the best DT in football.

Im glad they finnally did something to change this thing around.

We have struggled against the run for quite a while now.

The lions led the NFL in run defense last year. I think suh had something to do with it.

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 09, 2015 12:16PM

Yeah, I was agreeing with you, SamSam.

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: March 09, 2015 12:47PM

Sorry my man.....you lost me on that one LOL.

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: March 10, 2015 04:41AM

Suh signing is a good thing.

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Re: Suh..No Thanks!
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: March 12, 2015 04:52AM

@AbramsonPBP

Tannnebaum: "Dennis has final say on 53-man roster. I know it sounds confusing. He does report to me. It's about making best decision."

@AbramsonPBP

Tannenbaum says "no question" everyone in organization wanted Ndamukong Suh.

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