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Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 07, 2014 05:06AM

For the first time this year...or pretty close to it.

QB Tannehill
HB Miller/Moreno
TE Clay
WR1 Wallace
WR2 Hartline
WR3 Gibson/Landry/Mathews/Williams

LT Albert
LG Colledge
C Satele
RG Pouncey
RT Albert

LDE Wake
DT Mitchell/Odrick
DT Starks
RDE Vernon

SLB Wheeler
MLB Misi
WLB Jenkins

CB Finnegan
CB Grimes
NCB Wilson
FS Delmas
SS Jones

Can't wait but I'm trying not to get my hopes up.

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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 07, 2014 05:17AM

Quote: Can't wait but I'm trying not to get my hopes up.


Me too.

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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: October 07, 2014 05:32AM

Is Pouncey a go? Haven't heard that yet.

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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 07, 2014 05:35AM

colonel this from twitter...

James Walker ?@JamesWalkerNFL 57m57 minutes ago
My exception is if Mike Pouncey (hip) is on a limited snap count. If he can only do 15-20 snaps in first game Sunday, playing G makes sense.

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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 07, 2014 08:01AM

Pouncey said he was not limited in any way.

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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Date: October 08, 2014 11:08AM

I really predict Tannehill to have a breakout season from this point on despite Philbin and his douchebaggary. .....

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: tsstamper ()
Date: October 08, 2014 09:37PM

Jenkins playing pretty well...does Ellerbe have any chance of coming back with nearly $10 million cap number in 2015? Slim to none...though the $4 million dead money hurts.

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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 09, 2014 03:36AM


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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: October 09, 2014 07:02AM

JoeFootball Wrote:
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>
> Lots of FA's too...(probably resign 4)
>
> Matt Moore
> Louis Delmas
> Knowshon Moreno
> Jared Odrick
> Daryn Colledge
> Samson Satele
> Charles Clay
> Jimmy Wilson
> Jason Trusnik
> Jason Fox
> Kelvin Sheppard
>
> We are going to need one hell of a draft.

I'm not really concerned with anyone on that list. Maybe Clay, but the rest are replaceable.

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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 09, 2014 07:58AM

The problem with moreno is his health.


But if he was healthy he is the kind of talent you do not replace that easily.

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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 09, 2014 08:01AM

You could say that about 99% of the team but I would rather have Moreno than have to go looking for one as good.

Same goes for Jared Odrick. He is an unheralded player but one of the top and versatile DL'men in the league.

Wilson is a good nickle corner.

Clay should be back in PB form once he get's his knee right, IMO.

Delmas? Hard to say at this point.

Point is...you lose them and you have to replace them. I wouldn't want it to cost us a game or the season because Tannehill got hurt and we had to depend on Matt Flynn or whatever sub par backup Qb we end up with...

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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 09, 2014 08:04AM

I agree about jared Odrick Joe.....

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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: October 09, 2014 10:01AM

I could see the Dolphins signing 8 of those. worthy of being signed.

Tannehill had 1 good half against a very bad team, dont get your hopes up way to high!

The next several games should be telling.

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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Date: October 09, 2014 01:14PM

dolphin Wrote:
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> I could see the Dolphins signing 8 of those.
> worthy of being signed.
>
> Tannehill had 1 good half against a very bad team,
> dont get your hopes up way to high!
>
> The next several games should be telling.


Looks like you are. Tannehill will do great anyway.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: davdoldew4 ()
Date: October 09, 2014 02:18PM

In regard to the Raiders and Dolphins game now in the books, objectively speaking try this on for size,

In contrast or comparing Greenbay and Oakland, to say Greenbay and the Dolphins, they ( Greenbay ) have a much better QB, secondary, and over all a better team not to even mention better coaching.

But then there is always hope, that on any given Sunday, etc any team can beat any other team or so they say..

I do hope the Dolphins win this game and that Tannehill shows he is a good QB, not great, just good. They ( Dolphins )could snatch victory out of the jaws of defeat !

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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 09, 2014 03:29PM

Good post dav, and good to see you back after awhile.

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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 10, 2014 02:03AM

The one player who needs most to get to full strength is Charles Clay. He has been nonexistent through 4 games. This offense will struggle until he gets on track, Hopefully he gets on track!

The importance of the TE shouldn't be understated. Most of the top offenses are getting top end TE play. NOLA, SD, Chi, Car, Den, KC, Phi...Some teams have 2 like Indy, etc.

12 TE's have 3 or more TD's this year. Out of those 12 teams, 11 are top offenses. Julius Thomas has 7 td's. Antonio gates has 5 td's.

I have heard several talk about how important the TE is today. They are mismatches no matter who guards them and great red zone targets. They are bigger than all DB's and faster than most LB's.

I am hoping for breakout game from Clay. This offense is missing his big play ability. He is about the only receiver on this team that offers that talent. The ability to turn nothing into something.

He doesn't even have to have a huge yardage game. He only had one, 100 yard game all of last year. It's the fact that he did it at crunch time.

Everyone wants to put all the blame on Tannehill and he has not played very well but the thing is, this offense has rarely clicked on all cylinders. In 2013 or this year. Either the running game is working and not the passing game or vice-versa. This same line has also struggled at times in pass protection and RT follows.

We know this offense can run. Now all we need is for Clay to get back and we are legit. If he continues to struggle, so will this offense. I think he is the one who opens things up for the other receivers because defenses have to pay so much attention to him. Not this year. He is only on pace for 56 receptions, 444 yards and ZERO td's. At this point last year he was on pace for 980 yards and 8 td's.

5th game, 6th week. It's time!

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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: Hooligan2 ()
Date: October 10, 2014 08:36AM

For Clay to actually have an impact on a game first, he has to be targeted by Tannehill. If he's number 3 or 4 on the check-down list he's not going to get many balls thrown his way. That's on the OC for what plays are called or, on the O-line for not giving the QB the time to go through his progressions or, on the QB for not being able to process the information fast enough.
It's not on Clay unless he's running poor routes and not getting separation or, dropping everything thrown his way. I think I've seen him drop one ball so far.

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The Clown Show Continues



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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 10, 2014 08:58AM

incoming PM joe and tcpf..



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/10/2014 09:02AM by samsam3738.

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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 11, 2014 04:03AM


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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: October 11, 2014 04:17AM

davdoldew4 Wrote:
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> In regard to the Raiders and Dolphins game now in
> the books, objectively speaking try this on for
> size,
>
> In contrast or comparing Greenbay and Oakland, to
> say Greenbay and the Dolphins, they ( Greenbay )
> have a much better QB, secondary, and over all a
> better team not to even mention better coaching.

I'll give you the coaching and QB but the secondary is very close except that now we are getting back Jones and getting players back into more comfortable positions. Delmas moves back to FS. Wilson back to the nickle. That could be enough to give us the edge.

Our defensive line is better and believe it or not our LB play has been better. Now we get back Misi who is a clear upgrade over Trusnik, especially in coverage even though Misi is not great in coverage. Clay Mathews hasn't been playing well and has been terrible vs the run. GB is last is yards allowed rushing (163 per game) and has given up 6 rushing TD's to our 3. Miami is ranked 12th.

Their o-line is good in pass pro but we have been running the ball much better than GB.

I'm not saying we are a better team but we do match up well against them. Aaron Rodgers is ridiculously good.

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Re: Starting Lineup @ full strength
Posted by: TannyDaMan ()
Date: October 11, 2014 07:50AM

If Moreno plays and gets significant opertunities then we win period.

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