TannyDaMan Wrote:
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> THE Truth Wrote:
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> > JoeFootball Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > Then I tell Philbin he's gone at the end of
> the
> > > year and I tell Hickey to start thinking
> about
> > > replacements who would fit with Lazor as oc.
> > >
> > > What exactly has Lazor proven up to this
> point
> > to
> > > be worthy of retaining?
> >
> > I like the system.
> >
> > I think with better interior linemen and a qb
> with
> > better ball placement, especially on crossing
> > routes and slants, and a legit RB.. the sky
> is
> > the limit for this scheme.
> >
> >
> > I wouldn't force him on a great hc but if I
> went
> > with another inexperienced hc I'd prefer one
> that
> > has similar offensive philosophies to Lazor.
>
>
> This is why I am calling for Moore to start. I
> believe this is his game and he would really
> accelerate at this offense.

Starting Moore is an epic mistake. It's short sighted and it's an error in evaluating his skill set.

He's not more accurate on short and intermediate stuff which is the foundation of this offense.

As long as tannehill is here he starts and you hope it clicks for him late like it did for guys like brees, Alex Smith and rich Gannon. If you decide to pull the plug on the guy with the biggest, longterm upside then you don't want to replace him with a caretaker who will win just enough games to keep you from being able to draft an elite prospect this year.

Your right I'll just keep not watching our team win and stop stressing over it. I hope we get top 3 pick next years draft!

Duh Truth Wrote: Starting Moore is an epic mistake. It's short sighted and it's an error in evaluating his skill set. He's not more accurate on short and intermediate stuff which is the foundation of this offense. As long as tannehill is here he starts and you hope it clicks for him late like it did for guys like brees, Alex Smith and rich Gannon. If you decide to pull the plug on the guy with the biggest, longterm upside then you don't want to replace him with a caretaker who will win just enough games to keep you from being able to draft an elite prospect this year.

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As absolutely nauseating as this subject is, i.e., dealing with yet another flunked-out coitisback -- I have to agree with the general assertion; More Moore is not not the answer.

Thill is the ONLY hope we have (as slim as that may be) and trashing the kid now really seems more desperation than anything else.

Once we get rid of Ross, Phlimflam and pardon my Aponte, we'll have a clue as to what to do.

BNF.

THE Truth Wrote:
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> JoeFootball Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Then I tell Philbin he's gone at the end of the
> > year and I tell Hickey to start thinking about
> > replacements who would fit with Lazor as oc.
> >
> > What exactly has Lazor proven up to this point
> to
> > be worthy of retaining?
>
> I like the system.

You mean the idea of the system? In theory? Because the system is not working. Granted we still need OG's and receivers to catch the ball.

>
> I think with better interior linemen and a qb with
> better ball placement, especially on crossing
> routes and slants, and a legit RB.. the sky is
> the limit for this scheme.

I'm not sold yet. We have the same players with improvements on the o-line and we have dropped from 19.8 ppg to 19.3 from last year.

>
>
> I wouldn't force him on a great hc but if I went
> with another inexperienced hc I'd prefer one that
> has similar offensive philosophies to Lazor.

I would not place blame on any one person but if we can blame Philbin because he is in charge then we can blame Lazor when he has not gotten his offensive players to produce. He has proven exactly nothing yet. Thus far he has been worse than Sherman.

Now, maybe we don't get a fair assessment until the players start playing but he also holds responsibility for that as well. Not all of it but a portion. I do hold him responsible for trying to force the pass when the run game was the only thing working.

The only thing he has proven so far is that Chip Kelly was the offensive guru.

It is still on Philbin to identify and remedy the situations in all 3 phases. I'm not holding my breath.

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> THE Truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > JoeFootball Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Then I tell Philbin he's gone at the end of
> the
> > > year and I tell Hickey to start thinking
> about
> > > replacements who would fit with Lazor as oc.
> > >
> > > What exactly has Lazor proven up to this
> point
> > to
> > > be worthy of retaining?
> >
> > I like the system.
>
> You mean the idea of the system? In theory?
> Because the system is not working. Granted we
> still need OG's and receivers to catch the ball.
>
> >
> > I think with better interior linemen and a qb
> with
> > better ball placement, especially on crossing
> > routes and slants, and a legit RB.. the sky
> is
> > the limit for this scheme.
>
> I'm not sold yet. We have the same players with
> improvements on the o-line and we have dropped
> from 19.8 ppg to 19.3 from last year.
>
> >
> >
> > I wouldn't force him on a great hc but if I
> went
> > with another inexperienced hc I'd prefer one
> that
> > has similar offensive philosophies to Lazor.
>
> I would not place blame on any one person but if
> we can blame Philbin because he is in charge then
> we can blame Lazor when he has not gotten his
> offensive players to produce. He has proven
> exactly nothing yet. Thus far he has been worse
> than Sherman.
>
> Now, maybe we don't get a fair assessment until
> the players start playing but he also holds
> responsibility for that as well. Not all of it but
> a portion. I do hold him responsible for trying to
> force the pass when the run game was the only
> thing working.
>
> The only thing he has proven so far is that Chip
> Kelly was the offensive guru.
>
> It is still on Philbin to identify and remedy the
> situations in all 3 phases. I'm not holding my
> breath.



I agree. Lazor is no different then Sherman. OR Was it really Philbin then calling the shots all along? The shotgun passes on 3 and 1!? The 48 yard field goal attempts on 4 and 2? Dumb dumb play calling either way.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

Moore is the short term answer.

Hennehill would be a great redzone target.

We have a receiver trying to learn the most important position in football at the pro level.

Here's a tip. If your wrs aren't open within 3 seconds run for your life.

Here's another. If it's 2nd and 1 and there's 10 yards of clean real estate in front of you, get the first down don't chuck it deep and out of bounds.

Matt Moore is definitely not the long term answer but after 2 yrs and 3 games it appears hennehill isn't either. You can't teach instincts.

Again, $20mm and a hot wife. No one should feel sorry for him. It's about my viewing pleasure.

Mark Anthony and J Lo will get this shit turned around. They'll hire Denzel Washington (he was a head coach in a movie once) and he'll steer this ship in the right direction.



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or we can continue to blame the coaches, receivers, oline, play calling, the defense, the new logo, the scheme.

Denzel won't put up with that shit.

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> THE Truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > JoeFootball Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Then I tell Philbin he's gone at the end of
> the
> > > year and I tell Hickey to start thinking
> about
> > > replacements who would fit with Lazor as oc.
> > >
> > > What exactly has Lazor proven up to this
> point
> > to
> > > be worthy of retaining?
> >
> > I like the system.
>
> You mean the idea of the system? In theory?
> Because the system is not working. Granted we
> still need OG's and receivers to catch the ball.
>
> >
> > I think with better interior linemen and a qb
> with
> > better ball placement, especially on crossing
> > routes and slants, and a legit RB.. the sky
> is
> > the limit for this scheme.
>
> I'm not sold yet. We have the same players with
> improvements on the o-line and we have dropped
> from 19.8 ppg to 19.3 from last year.
>

Fair enough, there's nothing to point to as proof this offense works or doesn't. But when it had a competent all around RB in Moreno it worked really well. There were a TON of big passing plays to be had with better passes and better hands.



> >
> >
> > I wouldn't force him on a great hc but if I
> went
> > with another inexperienced hc I'd prefer one
> that
> > has similar offensive philosophies to Lazor.
>
> I would not place blame on any one person but if
> we can blame Philbin because he is in charge then
> we can blame Lazor when he has not gotten his
> offensive players to produce. He has proven
> exactly nothing yet. Thus far he has been worse
> than Sherman.

Coaches can only put players in position to be successful. Players have to execute.

As for Philbin, he needed to go with Ireland.

It was silly to bring him back.



>
> Now, maybe we don't get a fair assessment until
> the players start playing but he also holds
> responsibility for that as well. Not all of it but
> a portion. I do hold him responsible for trying to
> force the pass when the run game was the only
> thing working.



It's all guess work at this point. There isn't enough track record to prove anything.


>
> The only thing he has proven so far is that Chip
> Kelly was the offensive guru.

Or that foles and McCoy are far superior to tannehill and Miller.


>
> It is still on Philbin to identify and remedy the
> situations in all 3 phases. I'm not holding my
> breath.

That's not going to happen. It's been clear for a year or more that Joe isn't a difference maker as a hc.

LMAO

I bet you I could throw that football over them mountains!

"Back in 82, I could throw a football a quarter mile"

Welcome aboard, Uncle Rico.

Im all for J Lo getting involved!Even Joe Philbin would show some kind of emotion over that.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

Matt More can not do any worse. At least he had moxie and shows emotion, also has pocket awareness. He also throws a more catchable ball and does not have the chronic batted passes Tannehill poses.

exactly!!!

Moore has done well (he was team MVP) the only year he got to start any.

He did well in carolina, but got concussion early the year he was named the starter and was injured most of the year.

3 year!!!! Tannehill has done nothing, not sure why some of you cannot see that.

you are right dolfin.....I mean let matt moore air it out and we be getting the first pick overall in the first round in next years draft.

I think starting Matt Moore is a big mistake. He would just throw ints. IMHO he is not ready.

pretty sure that Warner was not drafted either!

He was traded because another team wanted him and only after they drafted a QB 1.

dolphin Wrote:
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> pretty sure that Warner was not drafted either!
>
> He was traded because another team wanted him and
> only after they drafted a QB 1.


And that proves what? Your such a dolt grasping at anything just throwing shit and hoping it sticks. How many Warners were there and how many hundreds moore like Matt? WRONG AGAIN. God you are stupid.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

LOL you crack me up treasure!!!

you try to make a point moore is bad cause he wasnt drafted. I make a point that neither was Warner and perhaps Moore should get a shot, and you cant comprehend the point even though you tried to make a similar one first.

LOL classic

Serious question for you. What exactly would it take or does it take for you to determine that Tannehill is not good?

I think it's time to form an alliance to ignore the brain damaged poster. it so easy to prove him wrong, it's not even fun any more.

Tannehill is struggling and he still can't make a rational, logical assessment. LOL

I know. I feel like I'm beating up the poor red headed retarded boy in the 5th grade.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

Joe make a poll.

1.Ignore dolfin

2.Keep reading his nonesense.


If everyone agrees to block him iam onboard.

Let him talk to himself. He will get bored and leave.

Dolfin has gotten two of the best posters treasurecoast and joe offtrack...

Its time for a poll

treasurecoast?

Joe?

I enjoy using him as a toilet seat. But I'll go with the poll.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!