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Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: December 30, 2013 04:19AM

That Ryan Tannehill has lost all faith in Mike Sherman.

Thats huge words coming from a QB who has been with a Coach for 7 years.

Wow.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: Hooligan2 ()
Date: December 30, 2013 04:25AM

So, Tanny is throwing his coach under the bus? Classy.

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The Clown Show Continues



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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: December 30, 2013 04:30AM

Time to make changes, Tanne understands that. Forcing Philbins hand.

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: December 30, 2013 04:31AM

Tanny is just stating the truth.


3rd and inches and you run a play that takes the rb 5 minutes to get off the backfield.


He is just stating the truth.

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: December 30, 2013 04:35AM

samsam3738 AND that same call didnt work the other 10 times you called it.

Tannehill can check out of plays correct?

The play calling was horrible all year for sure, but not Shermans fault Tannehill can't hit Wallace.

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: December 30, 2013 04:36AM

Hooligan2 Wrote:
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> So, Tanny is throwing his coach under the bus?
> Classy.


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Actually, the one thing Tannehill is, is classy. So, for him to feel this way speaks very negatively of Sherman.

Listen, Ive got my concerns about Ryan as a QB, he played absolutely Shitty yesterday.

But, Ryan is a professional and all class. That shouldnt be debated.

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: December 30, 2013 04:37AM

Quote: Tannehill can't hit Wallace.


And the Oline is made of sweeze cheese. But whos counting.

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: December 30, 2013 04:38AM

Reports are that most of the players are laying the offensive woes at Sherman's feet...

If these reports are true, I'll be very suprised if he's retained. The question is who do we bring in to replace him?

I just hope we don't go off the rails with coaching changes...we don't need to to replace everyone, just the right ones.

I'd start with Sherman, and Turner...both would be fired today if I was in charge.

Ireland would be kept BUT he'd be having a meeting with me today and he'd be told that he's getting a new boss and that the O-Line and LB's had to be immediately fixed...and not with project guys. I'd let him know that more struggles would come at the cost of his job.

Coyle would also have a meeting today...the focus of this meeting would be that we have too much talent on defense to have struggled as we did. His job would hinge on him fixing tose struggles...no more excuses.

Philbin would also have a meeting...he'd be kept also but he'd be told that he's getting a new boss.

This new boss would be give the title; director of personnel and football operations. He would oversee the entire football operation...Ireland and Philbin would report to him and he would report to no one except me.

Immediate cantidates for this job would be, in no particular order:

Jon Gruden
Tony Dungey
Bill Cowher

Cost would not be a factor.

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: December 30, 2013 04:52AM

no doubt the play calling was horrible and I would fire sherman, but again when the QB completes 50% of his throws and misses a wide open deep receiver at least once a game that is not on the OC.

Even the national sports guys make comments like we've seen him miss that throw before.

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: December 30, 2013 04:54AM

Hooligan2 Wrote:
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> So, Tanny is throwing his coach under the bus?
> Classy.


Where is the quote that RT said anything? These things are usually locker room rumors. I highly doubt Tannehill said anything to a reporter or anyone outside the locker room.

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: Hooligan2 ()
Date: December 30, 2013 05:24AM

I agree Eesti, all we have so far are rumors and I don't have a clue who Ian Rapaport is. I don't twitter or twerk.
Also, I agree that Tannehill probably would never say anything negative about his boss "on the record" but, I believe he may be naive enough to say something in confidentiality and actually expect it to stay confidential or, locker room banter as you say.

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: December 30, 2013 05:34AM

One thing is for certain, Sherman needs to go.

7 points in two weeks ? for the playoffs? bye bye.

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: cshashaty ()
Date: December 30, 2013 05:35AM

It seems unlikely to me that Ryan Tannehill would throw his college coach, and his OC the past two seasons, under the bus. They have a strong personal relationship that suggests he wouldn't do that. I don't buy it.

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: December 30, 2013 05:45AM

Probably rumors.

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: December 30, 2013 05:54AM

"I don't buy it." Me either. There's loyalty between RT and Sherman, IMO.

Probably scuttlebutt. Hogwash! Horse Hockey...

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: December 30, 2013 05:55AM

cshashaty Wrote:
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> It seems unlikely to me that Ryan Tannehill would
> throw his college coach, and his OC the past two
> seasons, under the bus. They have a strong
> personal relationship that suggests he wouldn't do
> that. I don't buy it.

He certainly wouldn't do it publicly, but that doesn't mean he doesn't feel this way.

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: December 30, 2013 06:15AM

Tired of dinosaurs....time for innovators.

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Posted by: BigNastyFish ()
Date: December 30, 2013 06:30AM


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Date: December 30, 2013 12:01PM


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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: Sickofit+1 ()
Date: December 30, 2013 12:07PM

Hey I hate McFagels, but I also think he is a amazing OC. Also it is Shaermans fault that Tanny couldn't hit Wallace deep. He admitted to not practicing the deep ball in training camp. Every damn coach needs fired, except special teams guy. He is decent.

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: Dolphacolyte ()
Date: December 30, 2013 12:17PM

Whether fact or fiction on Ryan's comments. Doesn't matter. Sherman is as good as gone. Should not take that long for the announcement. Ireland should follow soon after.

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: December 30, 2013 01:24PM

If Tanny wants Sherman gone then I have to ask "Why?"

Is it to save his own skin?

Is it the scheme or the playcalling?

I'm gonna run a poll to see what you guys think.

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: December 30, 2013 02:14PM

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> That Ryan Tannehill has lost all faith in Mike
> Sherman.
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> Thats huge words coming from a QB who has been
> with a Coach for 7 years.
>
> Wow.

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I've heard that reported, but who actually said it, if anyone?

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: December 30, 2013 02:17PM

I didn't realize that jim turner and zac taylor, our qb coach were related to Sherman.

even more reason to get rid of him. those stiffs won't be far behind.

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: December 30, 2013 02:20PM

dolphin Wrote:
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> no doubt the play calling was horrible and I would
> fire sherman, but again when the QB completes 50%
> of his throws and misses a wide open deep receiver
> at least once a game that is not on the OC.
>
> Even the national sports guys make comments like
> we've seen him miss that throw before.

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It is partly on the OC: already been reported they don't practice the long throws during practice. With that being the case, extremely hard to time the passes, especially with a guy that has Wallace's speed.

No arguing that RT misses the long ones.

The receivers don't do a great job of getting open; case in point yesterday: On one particular play, RT had time in the pocket like I have never seen him have. He throws an incomplete pass. Why? You gonna tell me that with that much time, not one damn receiver could get open? Wallace couldn't break off his pattern and go deep?

Take a look at the yards after catch for our receivers....not good. That should say a lot right there.

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: December 30, 2013 04:23PM

As I said on another thread, Cap. Tanny's problem is the passes are too long or two short.

When you say to me that a hypothetical quarterback has not practiced the long ball, I would expect the passes to be all over the place. Too far to the left, too short, too far to the right.

but when the passes are RIGHT ON THE MONEY BUT JUST EITHER TOO SHORT OR TOO LONG, then what you are seeing is the quarterback's inability to judge the speed of the receiver's stride and place the ball in a speed zone that will match that stride and get to him without him breaking that stride.

That is what is happening with Tanny.

And if this problem keeps happening again and again and again and not just at the beginning of his career, you are dealing with a "natural deficiency."

And that's what Tanny has.

I used to think it was because of the collapsing pocket and he didn't have time to judge the speed of the receivers but yesterday he had plenty of time.

He just doesn't know how to throw a deep ball to a running receiver.

He can probably hit a stationary target at 50 yards but that's not the same thing as a moving receiver.

He is GREAT at passes under 20 yards but..............

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Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: December 31, 2013 02:52AM


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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: December 31, 2013 04:45AM

Uh no Aqua and Orange Tannehill was his QB.

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: December 31, 2013 05:17AM

dolphin Wrote:
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> Uh no Aqua and Orange Tannehill was his QB.


Not in green bay genius

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Re: Ian Rapaport is reporting...
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: December 31, 2013 11:39AM

Come on, holic, no one was talking about Green Bay. dolphin, and everyone else, was talking only about when Sherman and Tanny were together and since obviously Tanny never played for GB, that could not have been reasonably construed to be part of the argument.

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