Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
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This is a moderated phorum for the CIVILIZED discussion of the Miami Dolphins. In this phorum, there are rules and moderators to make sure you abide by the rules. The moderators for this phorum are JC and Colonel.
The issue with RG3 is that he exposes himself to hard hits which of course will make his stint in the NFL a short one. I like Tanny and still say he is the future.
ChyrenB Wrote:
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> This discussion is hypothetical. I think they are
> both good quarterbacks with room to grow.
Yes, But you don't throw away and entire draft and the next years for him. For anyone. Because no one player makes a Team.
People figured RGIII out already. Got to be able to think and throw on your feet. Tanny rolls out sometimes, stays in the pocket sometimes, RUNS sometimes. He will be deadly with a better Oline.
1 trick ponies don't cut it in the NFL no matter how good that 1 trick is.
RT is the QB the organization needed. Getting now into draft mode. The recent groove of winning games is good, but it might get us out of the Jake Matthews sweepstakes. All accounts have him #1 at OL. Still as I like this Aggie thing, there is also WR Mike Evans. Wow. 6 foot and 5 inches tall plus 225 pounds of lean meat. Wallace would need a stool to see him right on the face.
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Dolphacolyte Wrote:
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> RT is the QB the organization needed. Getting now
> into draft mode. The recent groove of winning
> games is good, but it might get us out of the Jake
> Matthews sweepstakes. All accounts have him #1 at
> OL. Still as I like this Aggie thing, there is
> also WR Mike Evans. Wow. 6 foot and 5 inches tall
> plus 225 pounds of lean meat. Wallace would need a
> stool to see him right on the face.
How many great Olineman are there in the NFL? How many went Top 10 in the draft? Don't get all caught up with Rated #1. I'd rather have a good/reliable/durable starter that I can count on for the next 10 yrs then a superstar like Jake Long who burns out in 3-5 and causes us Cap problems.
How loaded is that draft class going to end up? Luck, Wilson, Tannehill are almost sure things at this point. Foles is looking really good since he's been starting. Even Cousins looked good in his limited PT. Osweiler could be good as well with learning under Peyton. Weeden is the only real bust at his point.
I'm not as down on RGIII as some, I think he could bounce back.
Also I have to agree that RGIII has got some insane tools. His accuracy in college was unreal, especially the deep ball, and if you can't see that then you weren't watching his games. Problem is, his accuracy has dropped off a cliff. He rushed back from injury and that impacted his mechanics, which is really where all of his issues have stemmed from this season. It's gonna take a full off season of work to get his mechanics back to where they were and that's no guarantee.
phinsfan402 Wrote:
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> How loaded is that draft class going to end up?
> Luck, Wilson, Tannehill are almost sure things at
> this point. Foles is looking really good since
> he's been starting. Even Cousins looked good in
> his limited PT. Osweiler could be good as well
> with learning under Peyton.
ChyrenB Wrote:
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> phinsfan402 Wrote:
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> > How loaded is that draft class going to end up?
>
> > Luck, Wilson, Tannehill are almost sure things
> at
> > this point. Foles is looking really good since
> > he's been starting. Even Cousins looked good
> in
> > his limited PT. Osweiler could be good as well
> > with learning under Peyton.
>
> You forgot Russell Wilson.
it was the second guy he named
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The beatings will continue until morale improves.
ChyrenB Wrote:
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> I'd grab Tanny but still that doesn't mean that
> RGIII sucks.
>
> But you answer me a question, WHO AM I DRAFTING
> FOR??
>
> If I'm drafting for the Redskins, I draft Tanny
> because I think he's the better of the two to run
> the kind of game the Redskins coaches want to run.
> He more durable and can take the punishment
> more.
>
> If I'm drafting for the Dolphins, I still draft
> Tanny because knuckleheaded Philbin would try to
> force RGIII to STAY IN THE POCKET thus minimizing
> his best assets and that would be even worse than
> what he is doing to Tanny.
Shallow.
The only prayer that RGIII has of being a solid NFL QB is to learn how to play QB from "the Pocket". Many of you don't remember, but NAMATH at ALABAMA was a running QB, who seemed to love/specialize in "Pass/run option off of roll-out right". Even before he was drafted, he had multiple operations on each knee. He learned to NOT run...probably "the hard way", and a little late in the game...but at least he DID learn, and become a "pocket QB"...and a very good one (as evidenced by his SB III ring, won while playing for a team that wasn't really that strong).
Those who DON'T learn don't last. It's that simple. RGIII, barely past being a Rookie, has had his first very bad injury! And i/m/o, he ALREADY looks like he's lost something.
The injury he suffered, he suffered in the midst of a run away from a sack that any quarterback, or even running back for that matter could have suffered.
I don't know whether he ever really fully recovered from it.
His performance since certainly did not match his performance before in the NFL or in college.
Maybe that did him in.
In addition, the team around him ain't that great either.
Washington needs a good coach Shanahan needs to get canned. I really thought he wanted to get RG III injured by leaving him in that game last year. He sucks, not sure what his problem with RG III Pat Bolwen treated Elway differently from others players in Denver. He gives his son the OC position when there are more qualified guys out there. I lost a lot of respect for Shanahan on this one.
If Washington finds the right guy they can fix this thing quickly.
mizzou15 Wrote:
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> Washington needs a good coach Shanahan needs to
> get canned. I really thought he wanted to get RG
> III injured by leaving him in that game last year.
> He sucks, not sure what his problem with RG III
> Pat Bolwen treated Elway differently from others
> players in Denver. He gives his son the OC
> position when there are more qualified guys out
> there. I lost a lot of respect for Shanahan on
> this one.
>
> If Washington finds the right guy they can fix
> this thing quickly.
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How many coaches has Snyder hired? They are averaging two years on the job.
Sure, if they find the right guy...but that can be said for every team on the planet. Gotta have the players, also.