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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Posted by: BigNastyFish ()
Date: December 09, 2013 12:01PM

RG3 is a college track athlete impersonating a QB.

He's NOT N F L material. Never was. Just the product of an immense hype machine.

The real question is --- how about Russell Wilson!

Do you think RG3 has a chance to ever hand-wash Russell Wilson's jock?

That's as close as RG3 will ever get to being a decent N F L player.

True story!

BNF.

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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Posted by: dolfan1 ()
Date: December 09, 2013 12:22PM

The issue with RG3 is that he exposes himself to hard hits which of course will make his stint in the NFL a short one. I like Tanny and still say he is the future.

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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Date: December 09, 2013 01:36PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> This discussion is hypothetical. I think they are
> both good quarterbacks with room to grow.


Yes, But you don't throw away and entire draft and the next years for him. For anyone. Because no one player makes a Team.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Date: December 09, 2013 01:38PM

People figured RGIII out already. Got to be able to think and throw on your feet. Tanny rolls out sometimes, stays in the pocket sometimes, RUNS sometimes. He will be deadly with a better Oline.

1 trick ponies don't cut it in the NFL no matter how good that 1 trick is.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: December 09, 2013 02:18PM

RGIII is a 2nd year qb that's running his coach out of town.

I think that speaks volumns.

He's a me first media hound that loves to hear himself talk. When he fails with his hand picked successor in Briles he'll be full of excuses then too.

When he's done with that rookie contract he'll turn into the next tebow with the circus following his every move.

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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: December 09, 2013 02:21PM

but to answer the question I wanted to draft Luke Keuchly(sp) and get Wilson in the second to groom behind Moore for a year.

Watch your back, Ireland.

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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Posted by: Dolphacolyte ()
Date: December 09, 2013 02:44PM

RT is the QB the organization needed. Getting now into draft mode. The recent groove of winning games is good, but it might get us out of the Jake Matthews sweepstakes. All accounts have him #1 at OL. Still as I like this Aggie thing, there is also WR Mike Evans. Wow. 6 foot and 5 inches tall plus 225 pounds of lean meat. Wallace would need a stool to see him right on the face.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/09/2013 02:47PM by Dolphacolyte.

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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Date: December 09, 2013 04:13PM

Dolphacolyte Wrote:
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> RT is the QB the organization needed. Getting now
> into draft mode. The recent groove of winning
> games is good, but it might get us out of the Jake
> Matthews sweepstakes. All accounts have him #1 at
> OL. Still as I like this Aggie thing, there is
> also WR Mike Evans. Wow. 6 foot and 5 inches tall
> plus 225 pounds of lean meat. Wallace would need a
> stool to see him right on the face.



How many great Olineman are there in the NFL? How many went Top 10 in the draft? Don't get all caught up with Rated #1. I'd rather have a good/reliable/durable starter that I can count on for the next 10 yrs then a superstar like Jake Long who burns out in 3-5 and causes us Cap problems.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Posted by: phinsfan402 ()
Date: December 09, 2013 05:14PM

How loaded is that draft class going to end up? Luck, Wilson, Tannehill are almost sure things at this point. Foles is looking really good since he's been starting. Even Cousins looked good in his limited PT. Osweiler could be good as well with learning under Peyton. Weeden is the only real bust at his point.

I'm not as down on RGIII as some, I think he could bounce back.

Also I have to agree that RGIII has got some insane tools. His accuracy in college was unreal, especially the deep ball, and if you can't see that then you weren't watching his games. Problem is, his accuracy has dropped off a cliff. He rushed back from injury and that impacted his mechanics, which is really where all of his issues have stemmed from this season. It's gonna take a full off season of work to get his mechanics back to where they were and that's no guarantee.

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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: December 09, 2013 05:57PM

phinsfan402 Wrote:
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> How loaded is that draft class going to end up?
> Luck, Wilson, Tannehill are almost sure things at
> this point. Foles is looking really good since
> he's been starting. Even Cousins looked good in
> his limited PT. Osweiler could be good as well
> with learning under Peyton.

You forgot Russell Wilson.

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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: December 09, 2013 06:41PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> phinsfan402 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > How loaded is that draft class going to end up?
>
> > Luck, Wilson, Tannehill are almost sure things
> at
> > this point. Foles is looking really good since
> > he's been starting. Even Cousins looked good
> in
> > his limited PT. Osweiler could be good as well
> > with learning under Peyton.
>
> You forgot Russell Wilson.

it was the second guy he named

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The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: December 09, 2013 06:45PM

I'm going blind I guess.

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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Posted by: LUDUPORCU ()
Date: December 09, 2013 07:58PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> I'd grab Tanny but still that doesn't mean that
> RGIII sucks.
>
> But you answer me a question, WHO AM I DRAFTING
> FOR??
>
> If I'm drafting for the Redskins, I draft Tanny
> because I think he's the better of the two to run
> the kind of game the Redskins coaches want to run.
> He more durable and can take the punishment
> more.
>
> If I'm drafting for the Dolphins, I still draft
> Tanny because knuckleheaded Philbin would try to
> force RGIII to STAY IN THE POCKET thus minimizing
> his best assets and that would be even worse than
> what he is doing to Tanny.

Shallow.

The only prayer that RGIII has of being a solid NFL QB is to learn how to play QB from "the Pocket". Many of you don't remember, but NAMATH at ALABAMA was a running QB, who seemed to love/specialize in "Pass/run option off of roll-out right". Even before he was drafted, he had multiple operations on each knee. He learned to NOT run...probably "the hard way", and a little late in the game...but at least he DID learn, and become a "pocket QB"...and a very good one (as evidenced by his SB III ring, won while playing for a team that wasn't really that strong).

Those who DON'T learn don't last. It's that simple. RGIII, barely past being a Rookie, has had his first very bad injury! And i/m/o, he ALREADY looks like he's lost something.

He had better learn quickly.

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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: December 09, 2013 09:06PM

The injury he suffered, he suffered in the midst of a run away from a sack that any quarterback, or even running back for that matter could have suffered.

I don't know whether he ever really fully recovered from it.

His performance since certainly did not match his performance before in the NFL or in college.

Maybe that did him in.

In addition, the team around him ain't that great either.

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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Date: December 11, 2013 07:50AM


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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: December 11, 2013 08:00AM

RG3 was clearly a different player last year. He was also a very good passer with a 66% completion rate, 20 TD's and 5 int's. 102.5 QB rating.

He was the 2nd most accurate QB in the league last year and had great deep passing numbers.

He came back too soon from the injury and it has set him back big time.

2012 PFF rating: +30.6
2012 PFF rating: -6.4

Sophomore slump aided by a balky knee. This is on Shanahan (and staff) for worrying about his job instead of his players.

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“I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers

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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: December 11, 2013 08:36AM

shanahan didn't want him. Snyder did and pissed away a lot of draft picks for him.

by benching him shanahan knows he'll get canned and collect the balance of his contract.

rgiii is running back that can throw a football.

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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: December 11, 2013 10:32AM


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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Posted by: phinsfan402 ()
Date: December 11, 2013 10:38AM

Washington is a mess. Shanahan is done. St. Louis is going to get a top 5 pick from them. Absolute disaster.

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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: December 11, 2013 11:03AM

Washington needs a good coach Shanahan needs to get canned. I really thought he wanted to get RG III injured by leaving him in that game last year. He sucks, not sure what his problem with RG III Pat Bolwen treated Elway differently from others players in Denver. He gives his son the OC position when there are more qualified guys out there. I lost a lot of respect for Shanahan on this one.

If Washington finds the right guy they can fix this thing quickly.

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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: December 11, 2013 11:13AM

mizzou15 Wrote:
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> Washington needs a good coach Shanahan needs to
> get canned. I really thought he wanted to get RG
> III injured by leaving him in that game last year.
> He sucks, not sure what his problem with RG III
> Pat Bolwen treated Elway differently from others
> players in Denver. He gives his son the OC
> position when there are more qualified guys out
> there. I lost a lot of respect for Shanahan on
> this one.
>
> If Washington finds the right guy they can fix
> this thing quickly.

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How many coaches has Snyder hired? They are averaging two years on the job.

Sure, if they find the right guy...but that can be said for every team on the planet. Gotta have the players, also.

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Re: Still think Grabbing Tanny over RGIII wasn't the right move?
Date: December 11, 2013 11:40AM

How much do you want to bet ......The Jets Trade two first rounders' for RGIII............smoking smiley

Com on REX.......I have the Hammer, lets put those last nails in your coffin!

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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