Andrew Luck or The real Deal tannehill?
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This is a moderated phorum for the CIVILIZED discussion of the Miami Dolphins. In this phorum, there are rules and moderators to make sure you abide by the rules. The moderators for this phorum are JC and Colonel.
I mean if the real deal loses to the panthers 11 to 41 just like that superstar luck did you would want the real deal thrown from a plane without a parachute and a 500 pound weight bling bling on his neck.
Luck is the kind of quarterback Philbin THINKS he has. The damn fool! Either that or he is so stupid he doesn't recognize that quarterbacks come in types just like horses do. You don't strap a thoroughbred to a plow.
But Put Ryan Tannehill on Seattle or SF or Washington DC and WoW!
Andrew Luck is a once in a generation franchise QB. If RT could be 3/4 of what Luck is today I'd be happy. The guy already has tremendous pocket awareness, sees all receivers, is very smart and accurate and throws a good deep ball.
Only people way drunk on phins kool aid could even consider this seriously.
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The beatings will continue until morale improves.
Luck...but I'm pleased with RT. I think he's developing and that's all I can ask of him right now.
He's not playing badly and his numbers are not bad either. I'd like to see him cut down the Int's but given the situation he's had to play in this year I'm ok there too.
I think he'll continue to improve and the rest of the team too, but continuity is the key...we simply can't have another rebuild. JMO.
Luck is a traditional pocket QB. Philbin THINKS Ryan is or can be made into being one. You can't say that of RGIII, Russell Wilson, or Colin Kaepernick. But the coaches at Washington, Seattle, and SF don't try to make them into an Andrew Luck either. Philbin is trying to force Tanny into being an Andrew Luck TYPE OF QUARTERBACK. Tanny has neither the cool pocket presence, the eye, the intelligence or the throwing skills (from a standing still position) to be an Andrew Luck, a Tom Brady, a Peyton Manning, an Eli Manning, a Drew Brees, etc.
But he can become a RGIII, Russell Wilson or Colin Kaepernick.
If they continue to force him into being a traditional pocket QB, he may be great but it won't be on our team. We will have dropped him and some other "NON-FOOL" coach will snap him up and ride him to glory.
samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Who would you rather have?
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> I mean if the real deal loses to the panthers 11
> to 41 just like that superstar luck did you would
> want the real deal thrown from a plane without a
> parachute and a 500 pound weight bling bling on
> his neck.
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> GO PHINS.
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> Beat the crap off the jets...
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> If we beat the jets twice this year im satisfied.
I'm not satisfied by either Tanne-Henne-Hill OR just beating the Jests twice. Although the latter would do wonders for my attitude.
If you beat all the crap out of the Jets you know whats left???......Nothing
ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Luck is a traditional pocket QB. Philbin THINKS
> Ryan is or can be made into being one.
Tannehill's rushing stats at A & M: 80 attempts, 353 yrds 3 TD's
Luck's rushing stats at Stanford (just using 2010/2011 like Tannehill):102 attempts, 603 yards, 5 TD's
Luck's rushing stats in the pros: 105 attempts, 517 yards, 9 TD's
Tanny's stats in the pros: 80 attempts, 353 yards, 3 TD's
You sure about that champ?????? You keep wanting to make Tannehill something he's never been, not saying he can't be a read option QB, but he's never been one.......that's college or the pro's
davdoldew4 Wrote:
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> Five years from now we will continue to hear how
> great Tannehill is.
I'm pretty sure you mean "WAS" since this franchise will fkn it up once again and trade him at his peak to another system/team with competent coaching where Tannehill will probably flourish. Then you'll hear those words uttered. In this coaching scheme Tannehill will continue his inconsistent play.
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dolphaholic Wrote:
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> ChyrenB Wrote:
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> > Luck is a traditional pocket QB. Philbin
> THINKS
> > Ryan is or can be made into being one.
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> Tannehill's rushing stats at A & M: 80 attempts,
> 353 yrds 3 TD's
> Luck's rushing stats at Stanford (just using
> 2010/2011 like Tannehill):102 attempts, 603 yards,
> 5 TD's
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> Luck's rushing stats in the pros: 105 attempts,
> 517 yards, 9 TD's
> Tanny's stats in the pros: 80 attempts, 353 yards,
> 3 TD's
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> You sure about that champ?????? You keep wanting
> to make Tannehill something he's never been, not
> saying he can't be a read option QB, but he's
> never been one.......that's college or the pro's
I think Chreyn is referring to him being a QB that can move around in the pocket and throw on the run, not just being a running QB
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The beatings will continue until morale improves.
You might wanna read your own link there killer, that was this last off season after Tanny and Sherman were long gone, Ryan Tannehill did not run a read option offense at Texas A&M.......PERIOD! Maybe they ran a couple of plays per game, but RT's rushing stats in college compared to your example of a "pure pocket QB" in Luck should tell you that.
> So comparing the running stats of a pocket QB like
> Luck at Stanford and comparing the running stats
> of a read option QB like Tanny at TAM is like
> comparing apples and oranges and hoping to end up
> with grapes.
I'm patiently waiting for my apology berk...........
eesti, I'm trying to run it down. I'm coming up with 10 pages of google hits on Texas A & M and the read option with Tannehill but am trying to find one that actually says that this was run WHEN Tannehill was still there.
tsstamper Wrote:
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> I'd like to see him cut down the Int's but given
> the situation he's had to play in this year I'm ok
> there too.
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> I haven't done a game-by-game review, but at least
> a couple of those have been on last-play prayer
> heaves.
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> There's no doubt he's developing and improving,
> and I think he'll continue to. I need to see him
> get better with the game on the line, and that's
> one of those "can it be developed at this point or
> you either go it or you don't?" things that
> worries me. For now, I think I'm going to
> optimistically hope he develops it further.
With the game on the line.....Big time WR's make that play to win the game. Mike Wallace did not fight for the ball that would have won the game. There is more to it than having "it" or not. The players around you have to have "it" as well.
Tannehill has consistently put us in a position to win at the end. Missed FG's, defensive break downs at crucial times, WR drops....RT is not ready to carry a team like Manning does but he is getting closer. Our LB's (once again) let us down on that final drive.