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one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: dolfan1 ()
Date: November 16, 2013 03:50AM

NO PASSION.....llok at Wallace commented on about the Martin situation...

"He's got to do what he's got to do. I'm never going to tell somebody how to run their life," wide receiver Mike Wallace said. "You got to get your money, man. I don't really have too much to say about it."

"you got to get your money, man."

Yup, its al;l they want is a paycheck. And we idiots support these dumb idiots who would be in prison if we didnt watch and go to the games. lol

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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: November 16, 2013 03:57AM

Are you 10 years old or have a mental handicap in any way, shape or form? Just curious

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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: November 16, 2013 04:01AM


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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: FinFanNo1 ()
Date: November 16, 2013 05:00AM

I want to get fairly paid for what I do, so I have no problem with the statement in itself. But I also know my employer expects me to be professional and give my best. That means I work at it, set the example for others, give it my all, and --- the most major point --> BE EFFECTIVE. I can be all the other things... But if I can't get the job done, all is for "0"... And that would be my value to my employer.

You are underperforming! STOP DROPPING BALLS !!! Get with Tanny and get on the same page. Help your QB out by fighting for a catch, making a key block, making catches you should catch,,, and some that nobody thought you could. PLAY UP TO YOUR CONTRACT DOLLAR FIGURE !!!! Right now, Hartline and (recently) Matthews are more productive receivers than you and that should be eating you alive inside. "You are either part of the solution or part of the problem". You were paid big money to be here and part of the solution.... So, what does that mean to you? More importantly: What are you DOING NOW to change that?

A player needs to understand that and look in the mirror before he makes a statement like that. I don't see him near the top of any of the league's receiving stats; so, he Has no credibility and just sounds stupid. Right now, Wallace is playing like another Ireland "bust"... And only Wallace can change that.

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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: November 16, 2013 09:23AM


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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: November 16, 2013 09:43AM

chyren, he's working on his 6th grade term paper. "sports is the opium of the masses and nfl players would be in jail if they weren't playing." and something about a hurricane or earthquake or some nonsense he will probably get a "D" on from Miss Crabtree.

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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: Wulf ()
Date: November 16, 2013 10:21AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> dolfan1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Yup, its all they want is a paycheck. And we
> > idiots support these dumb idiots who would be
> in
> > prison if we didnt watch and go to the games.
> lol
>
> You've made this comment more than once. You
> know, it is capable of being interpreted as having
> a tinge of racism since a disproportionate number
> of NFL players are Black as opposed to the general
> population and a disproportionate number of the
> population of prison is Black in comparison to
> their percentage of the general population.
>
> Is that what is behind your assumption that these
> players would be in prison except for playing the
> game?


Chy, if that is the same Dolfan1 who used to visit the Herald, and now posts on Phinatics, I doubt that he says that based on racial issues. More likely based on the "big kid" mentality of many pro athletes. DF1 has always been straight with me, and never been disrespectful due to my being black...

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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: November 16, 2013 10:49AM

I think he says it because when interviewed most NFL players don't sound too smart.

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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: dolfan1 ()
Date: November 16, 2013 11:05AM

Wulf Wrote:
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> ChyrenB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > dolfan1 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > > Yup, its all they want is a paycheck. And we
> > > idiots support these dumb idiots who would be
> > in
> > > prison if we didnt watch and go to the games.
> > lol
> >
> > You've made this comment more than once. You
> > know, it is capable of being interpreted as
> having
> > a tinge of racism since a disproportionate
> number
> > of NFL players are Black as opposed to the
> general
> > population and a disproportionate number of the
> > population of prison is Black in comparison to
> > their percentage of the general population.
> >
> > Is that what is behind your assumption that
> these
> > players would be in prison except for playing
> the
> > game?
>
>
> Chy, if that is the same Dolfan1 who used to visit
> the Herald, and now posts on Phinatics, I doubt
> that he says that based on racial issues. More
> likely based on the "big kid" mentality of many
> pro athletes. DF1 has always been straight with
> me, and never been disrespectful due to my being
> black...


TY

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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: November 16, 2013 11:53AM

I don't know if he is a racist, but his comments and insight are not only insulting but also very short sighted and simple minded.... To group NFL players the way he does, is ignorant...

TO say any group of people would or should be in prison, who aren't is an overwhelming sign he lacks any logical insight.... The fact he says it, as if he is trying to give others insight, is delusional...
Generalizing any group of people the way he does, proves while he might not be a racist, he is definitely a bigot... Which is no better.... Bigoted opinions of others, is no better then a racist...

One only has to ask themselves why, to understand, how shallow his existence and outlook on others appear to be... I feel sorry for him, must be a sad, painful existence to have that type of outlook towards others, day in day out.....
Relish in your bigotry all you want DF1, if somehow it fills the holes you obviously have straight through your soul... I will pray for you...it must be hard to carry around that garbage day in and day out....
regards,
Crowder

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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: dolfan1 ()
Date: November 16, 2013 12:21PM

Crowder52 Wrote:
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> I don't know if he is a racist, but his comments
> and insight are not only insulting but also very
> short sighted and simple minded.... To group NFL
> players the way he does, is ignorant...
>
> TO say any group of people would or should be in
> prison, who aren't is an overwhelming sign he
> lacks any logical insight.... The fact he says it,
> as if he is trying to give others insight, is
> delusional...
> Generalizing any group of people the way he does,
> proves while he might not be a racist, he is
> definitely a bigot... Which is no better....
> Bigoted opinions of others, is no better then a
> racist...
>
> One only has to ask themselves why, to understand,
> how shallow his existence and outlook on others
> appear to be... I feel sorry for him, must be a
> sad, painful existence to have that type of
> outlook towards others, day in day out.....
> Relish in your bigotry all you want DF1, if
> somehow it fills the holes you obviously have
> straight through your soul... I will pray for
> you...it must be hard to carry around that garbage
> day in and day out....
> regards,
> Crowder


LOL, not a bigot, but whatever you feel. No I live very well and sleep even better.

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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: dolfan1 ()
Date: November 16, 2013 12:25PM

jsm08 Wrote:
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> I think he says it because when interviewed most
> NFL players don't sound too smart.


+1

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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: dolfan1 ()
Date: November 16, 2013 12:27PM

Crowder52 Wrote:
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> I don't know if he is a racist, but his comments
> and insight are not only insulting but also very
> short sighted and simple minded.... To group NFL
> players the way he does, is ignorant...
>
> TO say any group of people would or should be in
> prison, who aren't is an overwhelming sign he
> lacks any logical insight.... The fact he says it,
> as if he is trying to give others insight, is
> delusional...
> Generalizing any group of people the way he does,
> proves while he might not be a racist, he is
> definitely a bigot... Which is no better....
> Bigoted opinions of others, is no better then a
> racist...
>
> One only has to ask themselves why, to understand,
> how shallow his existence and outlook on others
> appear to be... I feel sorry for him, must be a
> sad, painful existence to have that type of
> outlook towards others, day in day out.....
> Relish in your bigotry all you want DF1, if
> somehow it fills the holes you obviously have
> straight through your soul... I will pray for
> you...it must be hard to carry around that garbage
> day in and day out....
> regards,
> Crowder


Lawrence Taylor on Jonathan Martin: ‘If you are that sensitive and weak-minded, then find another profession’


My comment to you: "If you are that sensitive and weak minded then find another forum" lol

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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: November 16, 2013 12:38PM

DOlfan1- that is pretty funny, let me guess you don't know what the definition of a bigot is, so why don't you go look it up and then get back to me...
You are a class a typical bigot.... But I guess it is easy to deny you are something, when you have no idea what it actually means.... In life, ignorance is not an excuse my friend... But I guess that is how you convince yourself you are not something, because, you don't even know what it really means....pretty funny

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Nietzsche



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/16/2013 12:41PM by Crowder52.

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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: November 16, 2013 12:59PM

dolfan1 Wrote:
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> jsm08 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I think he says it because when interviewed
> most
> > NFL players don't sound too smart.
>
>
> +1


bullcrap. there are plenty on this board who "don't sound too smart" (ahem) but I don't expect that they are in jail

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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: dolfan1 ()
Date: November 16, 2013 01:41PM

Hey berk, why don't you go root for the redskins, they are more in line with your intellect.

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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: November 16, 2013 01:45PM

> jsm08 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I think he says it because when interviewed
> most
> > NFL players don't sound too smart.

but I think berk nailed it right. Even if based on that, people are not "too smart" are not the same as criminal and that is a very "bigoted" thing to say, which is much worse than racist.

A racist statement is directed at a race of people but a bigoted statement such as those who get poor grades are synonymous with being criminal is more than awful.

These people are hard working people who may not work in science labs but are the backbone of not only our society but every society of the world.

We owe our advancement to those who are "too smart" but we owe all of our civilization to the average Joe and indeed the below average Joe and I'll bet if you go back in your own genealogy, whoever you may be, you will find one of these "not too smart" people who you probably praise as being key to the success of your family.

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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: November 16, 2013 02:17PM


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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: November 16, 2013 02:26PM


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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: November 16, 2013 02:46PM

Being a Pats fan whatever, we can all laugh and joke, being a bigot is pretty shameful and on a whole different level that shouldn't be taken lightly... There is no place for spewing that nonsense over and over as he has done.

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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: dolfan1 ()
Date: November 17, 2013 10:47AM

Crowder52 Wrote:
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> Being a Pats fan whatever, we can all laugh and
> joke, being a bigot is pretty shameful and on a
> whole different level that shouldn't be taken
> lightly... There is no place for spewing that
> nonsense over and over as he has done.


Get over it, you read way too much into things.

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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: November 17, 2013 10:59AM

There is nothing worse in this world then racist and bigots, right now with your statements, you fall into that category.... Nothing to get over... You want to act tough and be a bigot, to each their own... But I am going to call you out as the dirtbag bigot you are all day long and twice on sundays... Take that crap somewhere else...

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All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
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Re: one of the reasons we are not winning
Posted by: dolfan1 ()
Date: November 17, 2013 01:28PM

Crowder52 Wrote:
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> There is nothing worse in this world then racist
> and bigots, right now with your statements, you
> fall into that category.... Nothing to get over...
> You want to act tough and be a bigot, to each
> their own... But I am going to call you out as the
> dirtbag bigot you are all day long and twice on
> sundays... Take that crap somewhere else...


What ever douche bag

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