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Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: October 09, 2013 12:26PM

Local Dolphins fans are very upset with the performance of the team and I expect that there will be fewer fans attending the next game because of it. I'm one of them.

From my perspective, the MNF loss to the Saints, lost us quite a bit of respectability nationally. Our team was on stage. No celebrity "expert" gave us a thumbs up in that one. They were right! Even with the Ravens losing their previous game they were picked to beat the Dolphins. They were right. That bad press about losing and all the problems we have keeps some fans from believing and that stops them from going to the stadium and rooting for the team. Fan interest is on the slide.

The Dolphins are not exciting to watch. Much of the entertainment factor has "left the building." There was a time when getting a group together to watch the team beat an opponent was easy to do even if it wasn't at the stadium but simply in front of a 27" TV. Today's team (past decade) is a facade of it's former self. We've endured. We aren't happy.

The efforts to generate a winning team just aren't happening. Too many missteps have put the team behind the 8 ball. We can all name missteps from bad coaches, poor draft picks, weak FAs, and terrible, unimaginative play calling.

To add insult to injury, our stadium and South Florida were over looked in the quest to host another Super Bowl.

Repercussions continue and will continue until winning becomes a new trend.

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: October 09, 2013 12:39PM

It is frustrating colonel, I feel your pain... I am hoping they can coach them up, off the bye, get the issues fixed or find a way to minimize their impact.

The local buzz really started to get going after week 3... Going into a bye after 2 losses is just deflating... Our next 2 games are divisional, so we have a chance to redeem and get that buzz going again...keep the faith...


YOu knew the NFL wasnt going to give us the Super Bowl bid, no disappointment there...

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All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: October 09, 2013 12:44PM

Colonel- Are you telling me when RT threw that beautiful pass on 4th down at the end of the game to Charles Clay, it didnt excite you like the old days?
I was in awe.....

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: chatafkup ()
Date: October 09, 2013 01:01PM

Crowder52 Wrote:
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> Colonel- Are you telling me when RT threw that
> beautiful pass on 4th down at the end of the game
> to Charles Clay, it didnt excite you like the old
> days?
> I was in awe.....

It would if it was consistent, but it is not.

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: October 09, 2013 01:09PM

This post is further proof of why I think Miami's local fan base is one of the worst in the NFL.....not all of you <Crowder>, but on a whole, pretty bad

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: October 09, 2013 01:50PM

SMH

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: October 09, 2013 02:43PM

Crowder52--the pass to Charles Clay was a thing of beauty. It was exciting. No doubt about it. Even the naysayers have to admire that play on a highlight reel.

Yes, I knew the NFL wasn't going to award another SB to SF because of the old stadium. Yet the SB is more than a stadium it's more than 3 hours of football too; it's a week long extravaganza. It should be held in a location where the fans from across the country can come and enjoy good weather. SF fits that perfectly.

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: KB ()
Date: October 10, 2013 05:04AM

colonel Wrote:
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> Local Dolphins fans are very upset with the
> performance of the team and I expect that there
> will be fewer fans attending the next game because
> of it. I'm one of them.
>
> From my perspective, the MNF loss to the Saints,
> lost us quite a bit of respectability nationally.
> Our team was on stage. No celebrity "expert" gave
> us a thumbs up in that one. They were right! Even
> with the Ravens losing their previous game they
> were picked to beat the Dolphins. They were right.
> That bad press about losing and all the problems
> we have keeps some fans from believing and that
> stops them from going to the stadium and rooting
> for the team. Fan interest is on the slide.
>
> The Dolphins are not exciting to watch. Much of
> the entertainment factor has "left the building."
> There was a time when getting a group together to
> watch the team beat an opponent was easy to do
> even if it wasn't at the stadium but simply in
> front of a 27" TV. Today's team (past decade) is
> a facade of it's former self. We've endured. We
> aren't happy.
>
> The efforts to generate a winning team just aren't
> happening. Too many missteps have put the team
> behind the 8 ball. We can all name missteps from
> bad coaches, poor draft picks, weak FAs, and
> terrible, unimaginative play calling.
>
> To add insult to injury, our stadium and South
> Florida were over looked in the quest to host
> another Super Bowl.
>
> Repercussions continue and will continue until
> winning becomes a new trend.


Very well said. I was afraid of EXACTLY what happened in the Saints game. we were playing pretty well early on, but once a few mistakes were made and bad breaks happened, the team showed no poise or backbone, the coaching staff showed no leadership and the team just laid down.

I've notice for years the preponderance of visitors fans at all the home games. Seems that the only American football fans in Miami theses days are from somewhere else sad smiley

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: Fins72 ()
Date: October 10, 2013 05:32AM

The question to ask is this: If the Dolphins had an even average NFL offensive line, what would their record be? In my opinion, 4-1 and we're not even having this discussion. I don't think there was any way they would have beaten New Orleans on the road on a Monday night. But Balt would have been a win. And that's the frustrating thing. One unit, in my opinion, stands between an exciting season filled with promise and another same old season of disappointment. This failure lands right at the feet of Jeff Ireland for doing nothing to improve what everyone knew was going to be our Achilles heel. While he was looking for acorns, he found several turnstiles instead.

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Date: October 10, 2013 06:57AM

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> This post is further proof of why I think Miami's
> local fan base is one of the worst in the
> NFL.....not all of you , but on a whole, pretty
> bad


Not me. I'm going to the Jets and the Pats game even though the new logo is more offensive then their Offensive Oline........

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: October 10, 2013 07:07AM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> dolphaholic Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > This post is further proof of why I think
> Miami's
> > local fan base is one of the worst in the
> > NFL.....not all of you , but on a whole, pretty
> > bad
>
>
> Not me. I'm going to the Jets and the Pats game
> even though the new logo is more offensive then
> their Offensive Oline........


thumbs up

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Date: October 10, 2013 08:21AM

I've come to view each game as its own little Victory. If I thought about the big picture all the time, I couldn't be a Dolphins fan. My Kids love it , so I had to find a way to love it as well. thumbs up

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: October 10, 2013 03:13PM

colonel Wrote:
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> Crowder52--the pass to Charles Clay was a thing of
> beauty. It was exciting. No doubt about it. Even
> the naysayers have to admire that play on a
> highlight reel.
>
> Yes, I knew the NFL wasn't going to award another
> SB to SF because of the old stadium. Yet the SB
> is more than a stadium it's more than 3 hours of
> football too; it's a week long extravaganza. It
> should be held in a location where the fans from
> across the country can come and enjoy good
> weather. SF fits that perfectly.


It sucks that people not at the stadium or area can not understand what you are talking about. And in the eyes of some, make us as an area of bad fans. Just remember it is easy to take that position thousands of miles away.... We support the team, and have gone through a long stretch of disappointment.. If it makes us bad fans, because we express that disappointment, to fans from a far, it is what it is... Miami has a long tradition of supporting this team, but the let downs are tough, and easier to experience when you are not in the stadium spending hard earned money, and can just change channel or turn off the TV and mow your lawn... Hell it is why I dont go as often as I use to, so I can turn off the channel or go work in my yard...

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All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
Nietzsche



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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: October 11, 2013 02:24AM

Crowder52--My family came to South Florida before there was a team. We had a smaller population then and lots of rural, undeveloped property. When the team finally came, there was minor interest. People didn't go to the Orange Bowl to watch. TV coverage was scant too. As time passed, interest grew and when Shula became HC and winning occurred, interest blossomed because it was exciting. Very exciting. South Floridians had something to crow about! We've always had good weather and that's why this is a vacation destination state.

One of the things we have going for us is good weather, but the downside is that going to any stadium during the day, being outdoors, is damn hot, especially in August, September and October. Got Sunburn? Night games are more tolerable. There are also many things to do that other locations don't have, IMO, once the weather cools off. Folks in Florida have many things to do to pass their free time away. Why go to an expensive football game when you can do something more enjoyable, especially when there is such a let down with a poor performing team.

Let's face it, we have it good and when the team doesn't match up to the other things that are good, we have a tendency to go in the more enjoyable direction.

We have suffered hard because we had is great with Don Shula and his very competent band of assistant coaches. The group of knuckle heads that followed him...a joke book could be written about them.

A winning team will do a lot toward filling seats at the stadium. Remember the old sales pitch from Pontiac Motor Division? Pontiac-We Build Excitement! Well that's what the Dolphins need. Not a marketing slogan but one that corresponds to the team's play. Build it and they will come.

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: October 11, 2013 06:56AM

Crowder52 Wrote:
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> It sucks that people not at the stadium or area
> can not understand what you are talking about.
> And in the eyes of some, make us as an area of bad
> fans. Just remember it is easy to take that
> position thousands of miles away.... We support
> the team, and have gone through a long stretch of
> disappointment.. If it makes us bad fans, because
> we express that disappointment, to fans from a
> far, it is what it is... Miami has a long
> tradition of supporting this team, but the let
> downs are tough, and easier to experience when you
> are not in the stadium spending hard earned money,
> and can just change channel or turn off the TV and
> mow your lawn... Hell it is why I dont go as often
> as I use to, so I can turn off the channel or go
> work in my yard...

Thanks for clarifying, sorry I gave you the benefit of doubt

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Date: October 11, 2013 09:51AM

Crowder52 Wrote:
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> Colonel- Are you telling me when RT threw that
> beautiful pass on 4th down at the end of the game
> to Charles Clay, it didnt excite you like the old
> days?
> I was in awe.....


I got a chubby........But what followed made the turtle hide in its shell again.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 11, 2013 09:59AM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> Crowder52 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Colonel- Are you telling me when RT threw that
> > beautiful pass on 4th down at the end of the
> game
> > to Charles Clay, it didnt excite you like the
> old
> > days?
> > I was in awe.....
>
>
> I got a chubby........But what followed made the
> turtle hide in its shell again.

yes that was spectacular...


only thing is the next play he didnt throw the ball away like he was supposed to and allowed the defender to sack him....

then it was a 10 yard longer field goal try.


________________________________________________________________


Tannehill sits back there all helpless and along waiting to be dressed........i just got 2 words to descrive this...


1CLUE_2LESS.


and in the next game its going to be the same thing...


2 snaps up and a rewind.

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Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 11, 2013 10:05AM


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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 11, 2013 10:09AM

he needs to move like that qb from the seahawks......maybe we should had drafted him instead.

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: October 11, 2013 10:19AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> he needs to move like that qb from the
> seahawks......maybe we should had drafted him
> instead.


Now you HAVE to change your signature.

If you are off the bandwagon then get off the bandwagon. Stop keeping one foot on...just to cover your bases...smiling smiley

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 11, 2013 11:11AM

Don't get off the bandwagon, SamSam. Don't change your signature either. Just keep demanding that the coaches let Tannehill be Tannehill. He will never be Bob Griese. He will never be Dan Marino either but it's interesting you talk about Russell Wilson. That is precisely what Tannehill will be if the coaches ALLOWED him to be instead of trying to fit him in.........................their system.

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 11, 2013 11:32AM

Chren you mean to tell me tannehill just sits there and gets sacked with out trying to avoid been sacked therefore running around and buying time for a receiver to get open?


And the coaches tell him to sit there and get sacked?


I dont think so...


He doesnt move around and buys time because he just doesnt want to.


If he doesnt move and buys time he is going to get injured youll see.

He is just sitting there waiting to be popped like a balloon.

He will not last long.

And then someone even better than him "MATT MOORE" will come in. Spare me.

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: October 11, 2013 11:41AM

truth im just sick every year is the same thing.


IMHO we have not moved an inch from last year.


The Oline stinks, on top of that now receivers are dropping the ball.

the dbs cant cover anyb ody.

Did we really upgrade the LB position?

Because the Tends and beating them like there is no tommorrow. and dont even get me started on the screens to that tiny midget rb from the saints. Please...


Our rbs stink. and cant run.

Only bright spot was the Dline and now we arent getting that many sacks anyways.

__________________________________________________________________


On top of all this....Tannehill seems to lock on receivers and waits too long locked on a receiver and when he should be scrambling buying some time for the receivers to get open......he just looks lost then he gets sacked.......inside the pocket.......Ive never seen a qb so lost in my life.

____________________________________________________________________


OK Now ive vented my frustrations...............


We are 3-2 maybe we can make a season out of this mess.

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Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 11, 2013 11:59AM


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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 11, 2013 12:29PM

But I admire you SamSam because you care enough about the team to get frustrated and want to do something about it.

What I hate is people who get mad but take out their frustrations on other fans who are trying to solve the problem by criticizing the parts of the team that are clearly failing such as the coaching, playcalling, and offensive line.

They're like little children. They're mad too but they don't want to hear people criticize the team. In their infantile way of looking at things, they view criticism as hate for the team when they should be looking at it as a way to make the team better.

There have been some pretty idiotic coaching decisions made the past two games we have played but instead of the people I'm talking about saying "yeah, what's up with that too?" they attack the people who point it out.

Now let me say that for once I'm NOT talking about the Truth. He defends the coaching and explains the coaching but I have never known him to attack the attackers just for the sake of doing so.

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: October 11, 2013 12:45PM

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> Crowder52 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > It sucks that people not at the stadium or area
> > can not understand what you are talking about.
> > And in the eyes of some, make us as an area of
> bad
> > fans. Just remember it is easy to take that
> > position thousands of miles away.... We support
> > the team, and have gone through a long stretch
> of
> > disappointment.. If it makes us bad fans,
> because
> > we express that disappointment, to fans from a
> > far, it is what it is... Miami has a long
> > tradition of supporting this team, but the let
> > downs are tough, and easier to experience when
> you
> > are not in the stadium spending hard earned
> money,
> > and can just change channel or turn off the TV
> and
> > mow your lawn... Hell it is why I dont go as
> often
> > as I use to, so I can turn off the channel or
> go
> > work in my yard...
>
> Thanks for clarifying, sorry I gave you the
> benefit of doubt


Sorry you gave me the benefit of doubt for exactly what? That I am part of one of the worst local fan bases in the NFL in your opinion and words...lol... At least I am still part of a local fan base my friend..... You honestly think Colonel is a bad fan as well for this honest post he made, that you did nothing but insult from afar... SOrry but your distance keeps you from true insight.. And your lack of insight and understanding has lead you to cheap insults to those that have actual insight.... If you dont know what he is talking about, which you dont, why dont you just keep your lips zipped on the matter... Simple minded insults to locals, only make you look jealous or resentful in some weird way...

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All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: BigNastyFish ()
Date: October 11, 2013 12:50PM

The repercussions of losing is that the fan base just doesn't care.

If you lose long enough -- and in a number of iterations -- as the My Yammie Flounder have -- you become a "joke." A satirical irony. A franchise clinging to its undefeated "glory days" which have been over since half the population on the planet was born.

Whatever "resemblance" the contemporary team has to its ancestral roots is merely coincidental and NOT to be confused with reality (in the here and now) in any way shape or form.

At least the uniform change helped clarify that demarcation.

My opinion. Of course.


BNF.



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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: October 11, 2013 01:06PM

Good point BNF- if you keep paying for something expecting results but the results never come, how long do you keep paying without any return on your investment but promises and excuses... That tends to have a negative effect/backlash on your customers/fans... That is pretty natural... and not something the customer/fan should be insulted over... Especially from those who are not regular customers, towards those who are customers in the area for over 30+ years...
It is awesome the Dolphins have such dedicated fans all over the world and country. But come on, insulting the local fan base over what Colonel said is ludicrous and out of line IMO..

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All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: October 12, 2013 05:56AM

Tell that to Browns fans, Bills fans, Packers fans, Bears fans and the list goes on and on, plain hard fact, Miami's local fan base is not that loyal to endure down years like other fan bases. Kinda proving my point that some of you are jumping off the cliff because we're 3-2 losing to one of the 2 best teams this year and the reigning Super Bowl champs.

And you wanna talk about how tough its been being a Dolphins fan the last decade, try asking guys like JC and The Truth how tough its been living in places like NE and NY. Still don't understand how you think you have some sort of special fan rites because you live in Miami?

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Re: Repercussions from Losing
Posted by: BigNastyFish ()
Date: October 12, 2013 06:13AM

For sure, there are a lot "dead behind the eyes" living their lives surreptitiously through a de facto tribal relationship with a sports team.

Personally I'm not into tribalism and have no clan allegiance with ANY sports team.

It's a simple formula. Winning is entertaining and fun. Losing is not.

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