Does anyone else think that our attempts at stripping the ball often lead to extra yards after initial contact? It seems to be the case to me. Are we over doing it?

I've been wondering the title of this thread for a couple of years now.

The difference between this front 7 and the one that ranked in the top 3 for the first half of the season in 2012....

Wheeler, Ellerbe and Odrick was the base 4-3 DE

I like Wheeler a lot but haven't seen much impact at all from Ellerbe...or Vernon.

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Ellerbe seems out of position and Vernon is being outplayed. He's a "wannabe" pass rusher and isn't. I don't think he'll be on the roster next season.

Ellerbe may be out this week...and Misi is ailing as well.

Hey I think Richard Seymour is a FA...wonder what's up with him. Could be a good replacement for Solia if he misses time.

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Yeah the problem was missed tackles more then anything...

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Also Crowder, the failure to simply tackle when you put both arms around the guy. I can take a fake and leaving the tackler behind. That's football. The crafty and fakey guys have always gotten away since Walter Peyton.

What I can't stand is, unless you're dealing with Larry Csonka, you wrapping both arms around a ball carrier who is the same size or smaller and him taking you about 5 yards backwards and then shaking you off and keep going forward and that happened too much in the first half and early second half of the game.

I have an idea. Put Zack Thomas in Ellerbe's body!

That would be wicked awesome!

BNF. And forgive my Massholeish venacular.

Ellerbe is 2nd in the NFL in tackles

Crowder was right up there in that category as well but it was usually on the wrong side of the sticks. Zach on the other hand....

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The NFL player is the problem.

It's rare to see anyone "tackle" anyone, anymore. These guys go for the big hits, and they normally just bounce off of the guy and the runner continues on his merry way.

With Miami, along with the above, our guys are just not in position to make the play, either because they have screwed up on their assignment or they are taken out of the play.

And....as was said on the telecast vs the Falcons, Miami's defense is out-thinking themselves. Just play ball!