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dolphaholic Wrote:
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> Chyren, i'm not trying to get in-between you and
> The Truth or you and Samsam, but this might be
> your most ridiculous argument to date, you can
> argue Carpenter sucked (which in my opinion would
> be wrong), but at least that would be a valid
> argument, but to say that Philbin ruined him by
> asking to kick a 48 yard game winning FG is
> ludicris, you're making a mountain out of a
> molehill, and IMO you are 100% wrong.
> These guys get paid to do one thing (and he was
> getting paid quite handsomely I might add) and
> thats kick FG, if things didn't work out and
> Philbin couldn't get him any closer, so be it, hit
> the damn FG and get carried off the field, get
> over it.
Holic, Carpenter was a pro bowl kicker up to that point and since that point he has been on a downhill slide.
At the time I screamed that it cost us the game because we went for a long bomb instead of TRYING to run the ball to get him closer.
I'll bet if your entire savings was on winning that game, I'll bet you would clearly disagree with Philbin's decision to go for a Hail Mary on third down instead of running the ball to get him closer. It's as simple as that.
You guys can talk all your macho talk about being paid to make the kick or whatever. Bottom line Philbin not only screwed Carpenter but screwed us out of that game.
You know it's amazing that as many times as I have tried to stress the subtleties of the point I am trying to make, only Northeast has understood...and of course BNF. Everybody else has been unable to discuss the matter above the level of the reptilian brained thoughts of 1) a kicker should make a 48 yarder more than a 54 yarder and 2) a kicker is paid to make those kicks.
I know my posts are long and boring, you guys, but don't try to respond to me if all you can say to yourself is....."Boy that's long. I won't read but let me try and figure out what he is saying without reading all he wrote. Oh, he seems to be mad at Philbin for asking Carpenter to make a 48 yard kick which Carpenter lost. Wow! That's crazy.
It's like that thread about whether Tanny was making a forward pass or a fumble and whether the refs got it right.
Only a few people (certainly NOT including Truth) actually read the NFL rules EVEN THOUGH TRUTH reprinted it. He didn't even read it. or at least had an interpretation of it that even a 3rd grader would not have adopted.