The owner has been itching to move to LA.

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Miami Dolphins. Always Perfect.

I don't think there is a chance in hell the Dolphins relocate.. Mr Ross is just a rich guy that didn't get his way.. So now he will go after the Political enemies that prevented him from getting his way.. The bottom line is if the Dolphins win, the franchise will be successful business wise.. If they aren't it doesn't matter where u move them, the business will not be successful... Ross and Dee just want to manipulate the public opinion on the matter with these relocation what if possibilities and threats... Not a good move IMO.. He is already unpopular, making these type of threats will make him hated in South Florida.. Not something Mr Ross wants his legacy to be IMO..

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Crowder52 Wrote:
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> I don't think there is a chance in hell the
> Dolphins relocate.. Mr Ross is just a rich guy
> that didn't get his way.. So now he will go after
> the Political enemies that prevented him from
> getting his way.. The bottom line is if the
> Dolphins win, the franchise will be successful
> business wise.. If they aren't it doesn't matter
> where u move them, the business will not be
> successful... Ross and Dee just want to manipulate
> the public opinion on the matter with these
> relocation what if possibilities and threats...
> Not a good move IMO.. He is already unpopular,
> making these type of threats will make him hated
> in South Florida.. Not something Mr Ross wants his
> legacy to be IMO..


Ross isn't making any threats.

He's said publicly that he won't move the team while he owns it and he hasn't changed that stance...at least not yet.

He put up his own money to pay for a vote he was guaranteed would take place and then didn't for purely political reasons.

He did this in order to lock this franchise into S.Florida for the next 30 years. And he bent over backwards to craft a deal that was insanely friendly to the state/city.

What more do you want from the guy?


The sad fact of the matter is that now the board is WIDE open. ANYTHING can happen.

If they did the stadium deal, the team is here for 30 years regardless of who owns it.

Now they are stuck with one of the oldest/worst facilities in the league. They are the single most important franchise in the state and they are the only one without public funding for its facility.


Now Ross has no reason to hang onto this team. He's losing money or barely braking even. The value of the facility he bought is declining. Some fans can't stand him. The state told him to piss off.

What's to stop him from saying "I tried. I'm out. I don't need to own the team to be a fan." And then to sell it to a person or group who is only worried about making money... one who would take a sweetheart deal in LA in a heartbeat?


Stephen Ross is 73 this week. He's not going to own this team for much longer.

Soon he's going to put this team up for sale. Frankly, he really doesn't have much of a reason to keep it at this point.

Ask yourself this...when that happens... if you were a group looking to buy a team and to it to LA, which franchise is at the top of your list: Jacksonville, Buffalo, Carolina or Miami?

Because Miami has a lot of value for the NFL, if you put up a good team, those other cities don't have prestige or disposable income that south Florida has in the area..
The stadium isn't that bad, it just doesn't have a roof... How many stadiums still had multiple prestigious Bowl games last year... None more then Miami... It isn't as bad as Ross would like it to appear in order to get public money.. Wayne put multiple hundreds of millions of dollars into the stadium just 5 years ago.. The entire club level and concourse areas are brand new along with other upgrades.. If the team starts winning he will get public funds in the next few years... All of this is really about value for Ross.. To be honest I think he is more likely to sell the team if he was able to increase the value of his property with this major overhaul.. So I am not exactly buying the exact story Dee and Ross are selling to the public right now.. He doesn't want to upgrade the stadium as much as he wants the public money for free to add value to his franchise..

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Crowder52 Wrote:
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> Because Miami has a lot of value for the NFL, if
> you put up a good team, those other cities don't
> have prestige or disposable income that south
> Florida has in the area..

What value, prestige or disposable income does Miami have that LA doesn't over it by a factor of 10?

Miami is the 16th largest TV market in the nation, LA is 2nd.

If you bought the Dolphins, you weren't a fan, you weren't a local, you were just a guy looking to make as much money as possible...you are going to JUMP at the LA deal because they are giving you a brand new stadium in downtown LA for next to nothing.





> The stadium isn't that bad, it just doesn't have a
> roof...


The stadium is almost 30 years old. The owner and the state are not putting any more money into it. Its not going to be getting better. its going to be getting worse.




> How many stadiums still had multiple
> prestigious Bowl games last year... None more then
> Miami...


So what? Those games were awarded to Miami years ago.

The NFL has said no Super Bowls unless the stadium is upgraded.

And now the NCAA is going to a 4 team playoff where the 3 3 games in the series will be awarded tot he highest bidder.

How many of those do you see Miami getting with a decaying Dolphins Stadium?



> It isn't as bad as Ross would like it to
> appear in order to get public money.. Wayne put
> multiple hundreds of millions of dollars into the
> stadium just 5 years ago.. The entire club level
> and concourse areas are brand new along with
> other upgrades.. If the team starts winning he
> will get public funds in the next few years... All
> of this is really about value for Ross..


I really don't think Ross is overly concerned with lining his pockets. He was going to put in 60% of the money out of his own pocket. It was a good deal for everyone.



>To be
> honest I think he is more likely to sell the team
> if he was able to increase the value of his
> property with this major overhaul.. So I am not
> exactly buying the exact story Dee and Ross are
> selling to the public right now.. He doesn't want
> to upgrade the stadium as much as he wants the
> public money for free to add value to his
> franchise..


Sorry, but thats BS. You don't have to like the guy, but the deal he worked out that would have been voted on was anything but a gift from the people to a billionaire to prop up the value of his team.

That's just a bum rap. Ross has spent more money on players the last 5 years than any owner in the league and his franchise is worth 100m less than when he bought it 5 years ago.

The guy was looking for a partner to invest in his business and to use it to make money when he wasn't. He wasn't looking for a hand out. He could sell this team tomorrow for half what he bought it for and not miss the money.

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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>
> Maybe Weatherford didn't like the New team logo
> either?


Hahahahahaha!

what's the story why the state house didn't put it to a vote? did someone get to the speaker ($$$)? don't follow FL politics (thankfully)

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crowder what's your opinion of what the leg did?

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Truth- If LA was such a supportive market they would have never lost the Rams and Raiders... Gaining LA and losing Miami as a market does nothing but hurt the NFL.. While losing markets such as Jacksonville of Buffalo are much different stories... The Miami Dolphins are not going anywhere.. This is all just manifested passive aggressive threats to try and garner support for a billionaire to get free money... Now he is burning bridges out of scorn, like the little kids who is gonna take all of his toys from the sandbox if you don't play his game... Ross is an outsider in this market and it continues to show... He over pays for the team doest a lot of unpopular stuff, still doesnt have a winner for the community yet, and then wants hundreds of millions from the taxpayers. When he doesn't get it, he acts like, well his reputation... The whole franchise might not be safe in Miami, is foolish and just going to piss people off about him even more.. No matter that he is attempting to do it passive aggressively.. People down here see right through it..

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berkeley223 Wrote:
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> crowder what's your opinion of what the leg did?


I think they should have let it go to vote by the public.. But I understand why they didn't...

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Crowder52 Wrote:
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> Truth- If LA was such a supportive market they
> would have never lost the Rams and Raiders...
> Gaining LA and losing Miami as a market does
> nothing but hurt the NFL.. While losing markets
> such as Jacksonville of Buffalo are much different
> stories... The Miami Dolphins are not going
> anywhere.. This is all just manifested passive
> aggressive threats to try and garner support for a
> billionaire to get free money... Now he is burning
> bridges out of scorn, like the little kids who is
> gonna take all of his toys from the sandbox if you
> don't play his game... Ross is an outsider in this
> market and it continues to show... He over pays
> for the team doest a lot of unpopular stuff, still
> doesnt have a winner for the community yet, and
> then wants hundreds of millions from the
> taxpayers. When he doesn't get it, he acts like,
> well his reputation... The whole franchise might
> not be safe in Miami, is foolish and just going to
> piss people off about him even more.. No matter
> that he is attempting to do it passive
> aggressively.. People down here see right through
> it..


LOL, now he's a greedy billionare, but a year and a half ago during the lockout, he was poor old soul who the greedy unions were raking over the coals. Funny how you can frame your arguments.

There is a difference between govt subsidies and union deals, Dolph, I would think you have the ability to understand that.. I don't blindly support Ross.. I actually look at positions and they might change sides depending on the circumstances.. Is that really that hard to understand? Or you would just like to make a shallow attempt at some shot at me? Ok, enjoy yourself...Imagine that, A guy that doesn't support the unions position also doesn't support govt subsidies... Lol...

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Crowder52 Wrote:
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> Truth- If LA was such a supportive market they
> would have never lost the Rams and Raiders...
> Gaining LA and losing Miami as a market does
> nothing but hurt the NFL.. While losing markets
> such as Jacksonville of Buffalo are much different
> stories... The Miami Dolphins are not going
> anywhere.. This is all just manifested passive
> aggressive threats to try and garner support for a
> billionaire to get free money... Now he is burning
> bridges out of scorn, like the little kids who is
> gonna take all of his toys from the sandbox if you
> don't play his game... Ross is an outsider in this
> market and it continues to show... He over pays
> for the team doest a lot of unpopular stuff, still
> doesnt have a winner for the community yet, and
> then wants hundreds of millions from the
> taxpayers. When he doesn't get it, he acts like,
> well his reputation... The whole franchise might
> not be safe in Miami, is foolish and just going to
> piss people off about him even more.. No matter
> that he is attempting to do it passive
> aggressively.. People down here see right through
> it..


The Rams and The Raiders left for far more lucrative opportunities. It had little to do with the city's ability to support an NFL franchise.

But you are missing the bigger picture here Crowder.



Its not that there won't be a football team in Miami 40 years from now. Its just after this debacle in the Florida Legislator it might not be the Dolphins.


Right now there is on HUGE payday out there for an NFL franchise. Its in LA.

Someday, someone will move there. They will vacate their current city and chase the financial promise that is Southern California.

That could set off a game of musical chairs.

If the team that goes to LA is Buffalo then that's the end of it. No other franchise is going to look to fill the void created by that move. But if its the Dolphins that head west, then Buffalo and Carolina, et al will look at the void created in S. Florida and perhaps see if they can cut a deal better than what they have now. So if the Dolphins left, its possible another team could fill that void in time.

Nobody in Cleveland ever thought they could lose the Browns until they woke up one day and found out they were moving to Baltimore.

Right now you have an owner, who you don't like or want, who is a Dolphin fan and has no desire to move the team.

If he sells, you had better hope he finds another Fins fan or a businessman with deep roots in S. Florida, or you could wake up one day and find that you have more in common with the people of Cleveland than anyone should.

Crowder52 Wrote:
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> There is a difference between govt subsidies and
> union deals, Dolph, I would think you have the
> ability to understand that.. I don't blindly
> support Ross.. I actually look at positions and
> they might change sides depending on the
> circumstances.. Is that really that hard to
> understand? Or you would just like to make a
> shallow attempt at some shot at me? Ok, enjoy
> yourself...Imagine that, A guy that doesn't
> support the unions position also doesn't support
> govt subsidies... Lol...


I'd buy the "gov't subsidy" argument if this were Buffalo and there was no chance of getting a Super Bowl every 5-7 years. i'd even agree with it.

But its not. Its S.Florida. An area that LIVES off of tourism. This was a business deal that was designed to improve a facility with private and public money, not just to create the jobs that come with having an NFL franchise in town, but the revenues that come with hosting a Super Bowl every 5 years or so.


They just aren't the same thing.


Anyway, it should have gone to a vote by the people who live there. The idea that some politician could open up Pandora's box over his own personal politics is disgusting.

If you look at it from the house members position who have been very tough on wasteful govt spending, they have made many tough public cuts. To then vote to fund 397 million dollar bill for a pvt business and billionaire out of town owner. They would get crucified in upcoming elections as hypocrites. They will not fund growth in Medicaid but they will give their republican buddy hundreds of millions.. The politicians that voted for it would have put their political future in jeopardy and Ross didn't convince them it was worth it, or convinced Ross had enough of a positive spin to the move I assume...

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I agree Truth, that it is reasonable to allow the people of Miami Dade, to have a say as to where they wanted their hotel tax spent and dare I say invested... I could live with that.. I think the difficulty was that the full amount needed to be funded now and the Dolphins were then suppose to pay back the money over 30 years.. So in essence the state was funding the project, not a pvt bank to which the city and state would contribute.. That is a sweet deal, and affected the whole state, not just those to vote in the referendum..

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ChyrenB Wrote:
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> One of the downsides of blocking people is that
> you miss information.
>
> For all of THE Truth's statements that the
> Dolphins could move to LA (I've been used to
> hearing that about all of the teams that have some
> kind of discontent, LA is used as a convenient
> threat) here is why it will never happen
>
> Re: Proposed Realignment
> Posted by: ChyrenB ()
> Date: May 03, 2013 09:27PM
>
> Even though they would be here in LA... I would
> like them to stay in Miami because there is
> something that an old-timer like me can never get
> used to is the Dolphins not being the Miami
> Dolphins.
>
> But Hell! I would be at every game.
>
> But it's not going to happen as a practical
> matter.
>
> Here, Bob, the Centrist waxes on politics again.
>
> The reason it's not going to happen is that it
> would be cool to build a stadium downtown near or
> in conjunction with the Staples Center.
>
> But it ain't gonna happen for the same reason that
> the Irwindale stadium got shot down for the
> Raiders and Rams years ago.
>
> The politicians that control the City Council are
> from South Central L.A.
>
> They want the stadium to either be the Coliseum or
> be built nearby in South Central Los Angeles.
>
> Hell the Rams and even the Raiders (as rowdy as
> their fans are) don't want to go down there
> because there's too much crime.
>
> Hey when I left Oklahoma at age 15, I went to
> South Central Los Angeles, first for one summer
> only in 1964, and then permanently in June of
> 1965, and settled in
> comfortably........................
>
> just in time for the Watts Riot of August of
> 1965.
>
> However, then the gangs were only like "Westside
> Story" and they only fought with knives at worst
> but mainly fists.
>
> They also only fought other members of rival
> gangs, and then only in an arranged "rumble." You
> might get roughed up a little if you were caught
> in another territory but that was about it.
>
> Now, from baby to old man, you risk your life
> going down there for something like a game where
> you have to walk several city blocks before
> reaching the Coliseum.
>
> Football owners are not stupid. They know why the
> Raiders and Rams left.
>
> They are not going to risk a huge investment by
> putting either a stadium and/or a team down
> there.
>
> But the Liberal politicians refuse to have it
> anywhere else.
>
> Bottom Line, the Dolphins AIN'T coming to L.A.,
> nor is any other pro football team. Hell, the
> Lakers, who used to play at the Sports Arena,
> which is right next to the Coliseum, play at the
> Staples Center, downtown. But they are
> grandfathered in from all the politics.
>
> When you say new stadium with new money, then the
> politicians want to direct it to their district.
>
> They are so stupid they can't see that when money
> comes into the LA City Coffers, no matter from
> where the money is generated, there is more money
> for their own district, ultimately. The only
> difference is that local stores and vendors don't
> profit as much from off-site sales.
>
> But they can't see that. They'd rather not have
> the money at all.
>
> For the same reasons, the Chargers coming back to
> L.A. where they originated in the old stadium that
> used to hold the Dodgers when they first came from
> Brooklyn, ain't coming back here either.

Nothing like local insight, LA sounds a lot like south Florida politics... So you don't think LA will get a team in the next 5 years? Where was the stadium that AEG was building that was tied to Ross when he bid on the parent company?

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Crowder52 Wrote:
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> ChyrenB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > One of the downsides of blocking people is that
> > you miss information.
> >
> > For all of THE Truth's statements that the
> > Dolphins could move to LA (I've been used to
> > hearing that about all of the teams that have
> some
> > kind of discontent, LA is used as a convenient
> > threat) here is why it will never happen
> >
> > Re: Proposed Realignment
> > Posted by: ChyrenB ()
> > Date: May 03, 2013 09:27PM
> >
> > Even though they would be here in LA... I would
> > like them to stay in Miami because there is
> > something that an old-timer like me can never
> get
> > used to is the Dolphins not being the Miami
> > Dolphins.
> >
> > But Hell! I would be at every game.
> >
> > But it's not going to happen as a practical
> > matter.
> >
> > Here, Bob, the Centrist waxes on politics
> again.
> >
> > The reason it's not going to happen is that it
> > would be cool to build a stadium downtown near
> or
> > in conjunction with the Staples Center.
> >
> > But it ain't gonna happen for the same reason
> that
> > the Irwindale stadium got shot down for the
> > Raiders and Rams years ago.
> >
> > The politicians that control the City Council
> are
> > from South Central L.A.
> >
> > They want the stadium to either be the Coliseum
> or
> > be built nearby in South Central Los Angeles.
> >
> > Hell the Rams and even the Raiders (as rowdy as
> > their fans are) don't want to go down there
> > because there's too much crime.
> >
> > Hey when I left Oklahoma at age 15, I went to
> > South Central Los Angeles, first for one summer
> > only in 1964, and then permanently in June of
> > 1965, and settled in
> > comfortably........................
> >
> > just in time for the Watts Riot of August of
> > 1965.
> >
> > However, then the gangs were only like
> "Westside
> > Story" and they only fought with knives at
> worst
> > but mainly fists.
> >
> > They also only fought other members of rival
> > gangs, and then only in an arranged "rumble."
> You
> > might get roughed up a little if you were
> caught
> > in another territory but that was about it.
> >
> > Now, from baby to old man, you risk your life
> > going down there for something like a game
> where
> > you have to walk several city blocks before
> > reaching the Coliseum.
> >
> > Football owners are not stupid. They know why
> the
> > Raiders and Rams left.
> >
> > They are not going to risk a huge investment by
> > putting either a stadium and/or a team down
> > there.
> >
> > But the Liberal politicians refuse to have it
> > anywhere else.
> >
> > Bottom Line, the Dolphins AIN'T coming to L.A.,
> > nor is any other pro football team. Hell, the
> > Lakers, who used to play at the Sports Arena,
> > which is right next to the Coliseum, play at
> the
> > Staples Center, downtown. But they are
> > grandfathered in from all the politics.
> >
> > When you say new stadium with new money, then
> the
> > politicians want to direct it to their
> district.
> >
> > They are so stupid they can't see that when
> money
> > comes into the LA City Coffers, no matter from
> > where the money is generated, there is more
> money
> > for their own district, ultimately. The only
> > difference is that local stores and vendors
> don't
> > profit as much from off-site sales.
> >
> > But they can't see that. They'd rather not have
> > the money at all.
> >
> > For the same reasons, the Chargers coming back
> to
> > L.A. where they originated in the old stadium
> that
> > used to hold the Dodgers when they first came
> from
> > Brooklyn, ain't coming back here either.
>
> Nothing like local insight, LA sounds a lot like
> south Florida politics... So you don't think LA
> will get a team in the next 5 years? Where was the
> stadium that AEG was building that was tied to
> Ross when he bid on the parent company?


Lots of ways to cut a deal.

We'll just have to see how it plays out.

Crowder52 Wrote:
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> Nothing like local insight, LA sounds a lot like
> south Florida politics... So you don't think LA
> will get a team in the next 5 years? Where was the
> stadium that AEG was building that was tied to
> Ross when he bid on the parent company?

It never got built. That was the one around the Staples Center downtown whose building the Local Politicians are basically letting die on the vine.

They want it further south.

As it is, it's only about 15-20 blocks north of The Coliseum but for the reasons I explained above, it's a no go.

I can tell you first hand that Joe Robbie Stadium is a great stadium. Its got great bones and a overhaul would have done it well for the next 15-20 yrs.The best part would have been a seat restructure that placed the fans 20 feet from the side lines. The Baseball shape and dugouts need to go. Ross could do at least that.

Look at the Stupid Jets and Giants. TWO NFL teams and they still didn't have the sense to put a roof on the place in the NYC Tri state area. Yet they are getting a SuperBowl this winter. GOD Please let it rain that day! PLEEEEEEASE! Cold nasty chilly windy rain. ICE and hail.

The NFL is about TV and ratings. That's how they make their money. Bottom line.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

What I think is foolish on the Dolphins and Ross's part, is how they are handling themselves right now.. They are pissed and acting like a scorned lover. The Marlins were trying to get funding for years, just because it doesnt work out the first go around for the Phins, they shouldnt have been so nasty that it didnt happen this moment. This is politics, nothing happens as fast as you would like.. Expecting it to was their mistake... Making politicians look foolish will only hamper their efforts, because politicians dont like getting in bed with loose cannons or guys that act as Ross/Dee are acting after not getting their way.

Dust yourself off, be polite, be the bigger man, and work towards passing it next session.. Acting as they are, hurts their future chances and Ross's relationship with the politicians he needs to eventually pass the bill.. Buck up...

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THE Truth Wrote:
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> Crowder52 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ChyrenB Wrote:
> >

>
> Lots of ways to cut a deal.
>
> We'll just have to see how it plays out.

I agree there are lots of ways for LA to cut a deal from my perspective.. In south florida when this type of dilema happens, normally you could appease the commissioners of the district that wants the stadium to be built in a rough area of town, by guaranteeing the commissioners of those districts that companies from with in that district will be used as major subcontractors for the construction.. This way everybody does what is best for their constituents and district supporters... Money and jobs still help all areas...

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Crowder52 Wrote:
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> What I think is foolish on the Dolphins and Ross's
> part, is how they are handling themselves right
> now.. They are pissed and acting like a scorned
> lover. The Marlins were trying to get funding for
> years, just because it doesnt work out the first
> go around for the Phins, they shouldnt have been
> so nasty that it didnt happen this moment. This is
> politics, nothing happens as fast as you would
> like.. Expecting it to was their mistake... Making
> politicians look foolish will only hamper their
> efforts, because politicians dont like getting in
> bed with loose cannons or guys that act as
> Ross/Dee are acting after not getting their way.
>
> Dust yourself off, be polite, be the bigger man,
> and work towards passing it next session.. Acting
> as they are, hurts their future chances and Ross's
> relationship with the politicians he needs to
> eventually pass the bill.. Buck up...

I agree. I don't even live in Miami anymore and this is pissing me off. All we heard for weeks is about how much the stadium needs renovation and how great it will be for the community. Now their rushed request for public funds gets shot down and Ross'd response is that he won't do any renovations at all, he's taking his ball and going home. I thought these renovations were imperative? Only if he doesn't have to pay for them, apparently. Ross still is the owner and has an obligation to do what is necessary for the team. Or maybe not.

And now these not-so-subtle threats about the team moving because they didn't get their way? They are overplaying their hand and can expect a backlash if the keep this up.

Finally, did you hear Mike Dee say Ross had no idea the condition of JRS when he paid 1 billion for the team? Are you freaking kidding me? They expect us to believe that a guy who made his money in real estate paid 1 billion for a team and stadium without knowing the condition of the stadium? I mean, who among us has bought a house without having it inspected? Insulting.

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DolfanKing Wrote:
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> The owner has been itching to move to LA.


Come on down!