so now we are going to invade chechnya?
great

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berkeley223 Wrote:
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> so now we are going to invade chechnya?
> great

Wouldn't it have to be Russia?

If they were only born in Chechnya but got trained in Moscow and we didn't invade Saudi Arabia after 9/11 then precedent is that Chechnya is safe and Russia is in deep do-do.

Invade Russia. An even better idea

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berkeley223 Wrote:
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> Invade Russia. An even better idea

Hey JC, what about my question about the location of Watertown. I know it's Middlesex County but where.

Crowder52 Wrote:
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> For every Mcveigh, there is a Jim Jones, radicals
> exist on both sides... The difference is I wasn't
> trying to demonize americans because of my
> political beliefs...
> I appreciate the defense Chyren, at least I know
> there are some reasonable democrats on this
> site... Not trying to demonize and blame the right
> for everything they can, whether true or not...
> And then after that trying to demonize me, when
> their posts were proven not on point at all... I
> guess if I would follow MSNBC and liberal biased
> media, everybody would have liked my opinion
> better, whether accurate or not... Good thing
> these werent the guys in charge of this
> investigation or they still might be chasing some
> false lead on some michigan militia member, while
> the real perpetrators of this crime escaped...
>
> The funny thing, is I have never read the NY post
> once in my life until the other day when Truth
> posted a link...ironic, I know.. I never even
> watched Fox news about this story, I am in the
> Bahamas and been here all week with my family only
> catching bits of pieces of information from CNN..
>
> I am glad they are caught, and I hope everyone who
> was attempting to place blame in the wrong
> direction, sees the error of their ways, although
> I am certainly not holding my breath on that
> one....


Man you are really full of yourself.

Show me in this thread where I blamed the you, the right wing or any politically affiliated group. Or better yet, where I tried to "demonize" them?

All I did was offer an opinion on, and provide links to, the information being sent out by the media (the right wing media for what its worth). That is that the Murdoch owned NY post was reporting: That the investigators had cleared the Saudi kid they had in custody and were looking at domestic perpetrators.

That means Militia "types" like McVeigh or a lone wolf "loonie" (left or right) like the liberal in Texas who flew a small plane into the IRS office a few years ago. I NEVER said it was one or the other, only that the information out there was pointing it that direction, at least according to the Murdoch Press.

I NEVER made it political and I didn't criticize, demonize or attack you in ANY fashion until you felt the need to climb up on your political soap box, spike the football and take a swipe at me. Up until then the worst thing I said is that "I disagreed" with you. A thing that up until now I would never have considered a political statement.

You really need to get over yourself Crowder. And while your are at it, learn how to have a constructive debate/discussion with people who don't agree with you on something. Its one thing to get up in arms and argue over something fun and meaningless like football. Its an entirely different thing when you do it over something serious and real like this incident.

Show me where I posted what you are accusing me of having said. Show me the post in this thread where I went after you for your view of this thing, where I "demonized" you or any right wing group. Heck, show me where I mentioned the political right at all.

When you can't, feel free to post an apology.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> THE Truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> >
> > Man you are really full of yourself.
> >
> > Show me in this thread where I blamed the you,
> the
> > right wing or any politically affiliated group.
>
> > Or better yet, where I tried to "demonize"
> them?
> >
> I NEVER made it political and I didn't
> criticize,
> > demonize or attack you in ANY fashion until you
> > felt the need to climb up on your political
> soap
> > box, spike the football and take a swipe at me.
>
> > Up until then the worst thing I said is that "I
> > disagreed" with you. A thing that up until now
> I
> > would never have considered a political
> > statement.
> ...................................
> >
> > Show me where I posted what you are accusing me
> of
> > having said. Show me the post in this thread
> > where I went after you for your view of this
> > thing, where I "demonized" you or any right
> wing
> > group. Heck, show me where I mentioned the
> > political right at all.
> >
> > When you can't, feel free to post an apology.
>
> RESPONSE BY CHYRENB
>
> Here was the post in which THE Truth did it. You
> can look above if you think I am counterfeiting
> it.
>
> Re: Boston Marathon
> Posted by: THE Truth ()
> Date: April 19, 2013 12:46PM
>
> Crowder wrote:................etc., etc., and THE
> Truth responded with the following:
>
> Please allow me to offer my sincerest apologies
> for questioning/disagreeing with your
> interpretation. Let me extend that apology beyond
> you to also include any right wing militia and/or
> any home grown loonies who may have been offended
> by my misinterpretation of the information being
> disseminated over the past 3-4 days. Clearly they
> are a misunderstood cornerstone of our society and
> should be revered for their actions instead of
> being portrayed as moronic, homicidal maniacs
> existing on the fringe of society capable of
> killing innocents.
>
> Mea culpa. Mea maxima culpa.

dude. really? that's your evidence?
truth's post you're quoting was obviously dripping with sarcasm and his last on the subject (made after crowder got all indignant about how anyone could possibly think the perpetrators of domestic terrorism could ever be a tim mccveigh/michigan militia type).

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berkeley223 Wrote:
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> ChyrenB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > THE Truth Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Man you are really full of yourself.
> > >
> > > Show me in this thread where I blamed the
> you,
> > the
> > > right wing or any politically affiliated
> group.
> >
> > > Or better yet, where I tried to "demonize"
> > them?
> > >
> > I NEVER made it political and I didn't
> > criticize,
> > > demonize or attack you in ANY fashion until
> you
> > > felt the need to climb up on your political
> > soap
> > > box, spike the football and take a swipe at
> me.
> >
> > > Up until then the worst thing I said is that
> "I
> > > disagreed" with you. A thing that up until
> now
> > I
> > > would never have considered a political
> > > statement.
> > ...................................
> > >
> > > Show me where I posted what you are accusing
> me
> > of
> > > having said. Show me the post in this thread
> > > where I went after you for your view of this
> > > thing, where I "demonized" you or any right
> > wing
> > > group. Heck, show me where I mentioned the
> > > political right at all.
> > >
> > > When you can't, feel free to post an apology.
> >
> > RESPONSE BY CHYRENB
> >
> > Here was the post in which THE Truth did it.
> You
> > can look above if you think I am counterfeiting
> > it.
> >
> > Re: Boston Marathon
> > Posted by: THE Truth ()
> > Date: April 19, 2013 12:46PM
> >
> > Crowder wrote:................etc., etc., and
> THE
> > Truth responded with the following:
> >
> > Please allow me to offer my sincerest apologies
> > for questioning/disagreeing with your
> > interpretation. Let me extend that apology
> beyond
> > you to also include any right wing militia
> and/or
> > any home grown loonies who may have been
> offended
> > by my misinterpretation of the information
> being
> > disseminated over the past 3-4 days. Clearly
> they
> > are a misunderstood cornerstone of our society
> and
> > should be revered for their actions instead of
> > being portrayed as moronic, homicidal maniacs
> > existing on the fringe of society capable of
> > killing innocents.
> >
> > Mea culpa. Mea maxima culpa.
>
> dude. really? that's your evidence?
> truth's post you're quoting was obviously dripping
> with sarcasm and his last on the subject (made
> after crowder got all indignant about how anyone
> could possibly think the perpetrators of domestic
> terrorism could ever be a tim mccveigh/michigan
> militia type).


So Bob's evidence of my guilt is my sarcastic response to the original accusation?

Classic. Pathetic, but classic Bob nonetheless.

I suppose I should probably make some snarky comment about his being a prosecutor but what's the point?

People with an agenda are gonna do what they are gonna do, facts be damned.

WhatEVER (as the Valley girls say).

berk, That sarcasm was directed at Crowder as well.

Like I said, I'm a Black man and I reasoned that it was neither Right wing fanatics or the Left Wing Weathermen or SDS types.

Crowder agreed. He said this smelled of foreign terrorism if not foreigners themselves at least Foreign or Islamist sympathizers.

I said the same thing at the same time.


Truth came with his usual Imperial decree that this was probably the right wing and of course when both Crowder and I pointed out that the Right Wing only attacks the government or racial groups, not just any and every body who happens to be in a crowded, he came back with that sarcasm.

So how does sarcasm excuse him for making fun of all of us who thought it to be foreign-INSPIRED terrorism as being apologists for right wing nuts and loonies?????????????????????????

That's my evidence, Counselor.

We never attacked your side except to say that you guys were wrong, something which time proved you to be. We never tried to tie, as does the above posting, your position with Radical Islamists (except not wanting to offend them).

Treasure, if you're reading, this is why I didn't want to hug and sing Kumbaya after the true situation came to light.

It seems that THE Truth and his worshippers follow a certain pattern.

Crowder52 Wrote:
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> I appreciate the defense Chyren, at least I know
> there are some reasonable democrats on this
> site... Not trying to demonize and blame the right
> for everything they can, whether true or not...
> And then after that trying to demonize me, when
> their posts were proven not on point at all..

Crowder there are two kind of Democrats like there are two kind of Republicans.

There are Liberal Democrats and there are Labor Democrats.

I am a Labor Democrat. Liberal Democrats seem to get NOT excited about helping the Homeless but BOY do they get excited with sympathy when anyone hates America and performs a hostile act and the Liberals want to explain how we had it coming, if not outrightly justifying it.

There are two kind of Republicans. There are Moderate Republicans and there are Tea Party Republicans who actually believe that the Government itself is plotting a takeover. These people would actually allow people to own their own private drones and small tactical nuclear devices if they had their way. They read the Second Amendment that broadly and defend the right of people to own these "semi" assault rifles which to me are the functional equivalent of what we used to call "Tommy guns" in the 1920's.

What we really need is to have the two rational wings of the parties LEAVE BOTH the Democrats and Republicans and form "The Center Party."

It would win every election.

Wow. You do have a knack for characterizing people into categories you seem to feel need it. I know a lot of Republican's and democrats that don't fall into any of the ones you have listed.

People interpret things as they effect their agenda.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

calling JC....

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Nt trashing anyone Bud. I still dig your points of view and look forward to a whole season of posting with you. But ....I got to call B.S. when I see it. Sorry. I think politically you and I are probably on opposite sides of the spectrum so its best just not to go political anymore. JC afforded us an opportunity to discuss this tragedy and lets leave it at that. We all have one thing in common though......the Miami Dolphins. And I'll have a beer with you and discuss that anytime.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

Well I am a conservative Democrat. If that is BS to you, then either you must be either a liberal or must be SO right wing, you cannot envision any Democrat except the ones you've been used to seeing on television.

My political philosophy is stuck back when I was twelve years old living in essentially Fort Sill, Oklahoma, with politicians like Eisenhower, Kennedy, Nixon, Johnson and Nelson Rockefeller. Frankly, I was for Nixon-Lodge and my father had to explain to me why he was voting for that guy I had never heard of from Boston and that Southerner from Texas.

Now I know that doesn't fit with today's philosophy which to me means you have to be a radical of one sort or the other.

Either you have to live or die with the right wing or the left wing.

Sorry to disappoint you bud but that's not me.

So in the final analysis, it is not ME putting people in boxes but other people who just can't seem to think beyond either the New York Times or Fox News.

Hey, there are others of us out here who want to vomit when they hear either of them.

Problem is most Centrists tend to sit on their butts and let the kooks of both parties run things. We end up making a choice between intolerable and even more intolerable.

I'll tell you all one thing. I'm going to be completely self absorbed and selfish now. Just look at all the Press the Red Sox are getting. I'm just glad as hell its not Football season!

Chyrenne I won't get into politics.....but I will say a few yrs back while learning how to clear a building with some Top cops from around the country, I had the pleasure of training with a certain famous Bow Hunter from Michigan and lets leave it at that.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

Some people act like babies......If someone dont want to read a thread just dont click on it.

Remember OneFundBoston.Com.

What fun would this board be without posts like these.....


ChrenB Quote: My point being essentially the point you're making.....but then again you wouldn't be able to suck up to Truth if you considered that.

Like JJ From goodtimes used to say.....TOO MUCH

Such a crazy rational........God forbids us to indulge. No alcohol, no weed. But God is OK with us slitting throats and killing innocent women and children. Idiots.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!