This is a moderated phorum for the CIVILIZED discussion of the Miami Dolphins. In this phorum, there are rules and moderators to make sure you abide by the rules. The moderators for this phorum are JC and Colonel.
1 Detroit Matthew Stafford QB Georgia
2 St. Louis Andre Smith OT Alabama
3 Kansas City Mark Sanchez QB USC
4 Seattle Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
5 Cleveland Aaron Curry LB Wake Forest
6 Cincinnati Jason Smith OT Baylor
7 Oakland Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri
8 Jacksonville Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
9 Green Bay Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio St.
10 San Francisco Aaron Maybin DE/OLB Penn St.
11 Buffalo Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma St.
12 Denver B.J. Raji DT Boston College
13 Washington Brian Orakpo DE Texas
14 New Orleans Vontae Davis CB Illinois
15 Houston Everette Brown DE Florida St.
16 San Diego Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia
17 New York Jets Percy Harvin WR Florida
18 Chicago Tyson Jackson DE LSU
19 Tampa Bay Josh Freeman QB Kansas St.
20 Detroit (from Dallas) Rey Maualuga LB USC
21 Philadelphia Chris "Beanie" Wells RB Ohio St.
22 Minnesota Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina
23 New England Brian Cushing LB USC
24 Atlanta Larry English DE/OLB No. Illinois
25 Miami Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland
26 Baltimore D.J. Moore CB Vanderbilt
27 Indianapolis Peria Jerry DT Mississippi
28 Philadelphia (from Carolina) Michael Oher OT Mississippi
29 New York Giants James Laurinaitis LB Ohio St.
30 Tennessee Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
31 Arizona LeSean McCoy RB Pittsburgh
32 Pittsburgh Alex Mack C California
Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> If Michael Oher drops to us, I dont care who is on
> the board, we take Oher!
Why must we take ANOTHER OT? We've drafted 2 in the first round in the last 5 years. And why spend a 1st rounder on a RT anyway?
I like Heyward-Bey but not enought to take him over OHER, LAURI, or maybe even MACK. aND wow WHAT A DIFFERENCE A YEAR MAKES FOR lAURINITIS, HE SHOULD'VE COME OUT LAST YEAR, HE COST HIMSELF ALOT OF DOUGH$$$.
WR is a position you take as the "sprinkles" on the cake. We are still in the process of adding the meat and bones to this team. We need DT, OLB, MLB....the anchors.
Not a flashy WR.
Plus I don't see Parcells taking a WR in Rd 1 under any circumstance
MikeO Wrote:
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> WR is a position you take as the "sprinkles" on
> the cake. We are still in the process of adding
> the meat and bones to this team. We need DT, OLB,
> MLB....the anchors.
>
> Not a flashy WR.
>
> Plus I don't see Parcells taking a WR in Rd 1
> under any circumstance
I don't agree. We're in desperate need of a #1 WR, and I'm not sure Ginn will mature into that role. We should be ok at NT next year, with Ferguson and Soliai (who started showing some dominance at the end of the year). We DO need help at LB, but that can be shored up in later rounds and/or in free agency. There aren't any good WR prospects in free agency this year, so I could definitely see us taking one in the 1st round.
DaytonaDolfan13 Wrote:
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> montequi
> There aren't any
> > good WR prospects in free agency this year, so
> I
> > could definitely see us taking one in the 1st
> > round.
>
> WRONG.... TJ, BRYANT JOHNSON, ANTONIO BRYANT,
> ASHLEY LELIE, DREW CARTER
>
> I think we've seen what we can expect from ROOKIE
> RECEIVERS, not much.
Kiper is losing it. He picked five wideouts in the first round. How many were picked in the first round last year? Also Heyward-Bey is a major reach at that slot. However, if Darrius does run in the 4.3's at the combine then, at 6-2 205, he would be intriguing.
A&O is right. If Oher is available there then you have to select him. A team should never pass on such a quality tackle. Vernon Carey, if signed, can always slip inside. If Oher isn't availabe then Guard Duke Robinson is certainly worth considering. Of course so much of this depends on free agency. If we sign Gross or Brown then the point may be moot.
Since it seems readily apparent that Crowder will be gone, conventional wisdom says that the pick is James Laurinaitis. Kiper must have overlooked the likelyhood that Crowder will not be returning to the Dolphins.
Mel Kiper is a moron, i dont know how he still has his job, i could do better than him and Im no "expert". Why get bey when you can get a guy like kenny brit who is just as good in the late second or maybe 3rd (depending on how is combine is). If we go offense we should go interior line, I like Alex Mack out of cal. Otherwise it is best defensive guy avaialbe between Saftey/ILB or Interior DL
I'd love to see us take a big, tall and fast WR in the first round but I have to agree that we most likely won't even though we need a big time player in that position. The only player worth the money this year would be Bolden and I don't see us paying him what he'd want. Especially after his extremely juvenile pouting incident. I think O-Line or D-Line is the best bet pick at #25 unless a "can't miss" LB or S is there. I think a safer bet for us to pick a WR is in the 2nd round.
MikeO Wrote:
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> DaytonaDolfan13 Wrote:
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> > WILLIAM MOORE FS
>
>
> He was TERRIBLE in the senior bowl workouts
> according to reports.
There's no way Trifecta picks a WR in the first round. We need a WR desperately, but no way. And if Laurinaitis is there, why would we pass on him, makes no sense. Plus we need O line help.
Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> Michael Oher and Jake Long would make for an
> *AMAZING* offensive line.
yeah but we cannot run between the tackles, getting another tackle will not help that much. We need interior line men. I like herman johnson out of LSU- something like 6-7' 365lbs he is a beast of a man (OG)
Mike Mayock had William Moore as only the 5th best safety right now.
Another reason why we'll take a WR high in this draft. It takes time for a WR to develop. Rookie wideouts rarely step in and make a huge impact. If we want a young #1 guy, this is when we have to draft him, so that he'll be a bigger factor in 2010 and 2011. There are no options in free agency that fit our needs. Houshmandzadeh will be 32 years old when next season starts, and will be extremely expensive. And he's not much of a downfield threat. Antonio Bryant was run out of town in Dallas after he and Parcells got into an altercation on the sidelines. He's also missed an entire season for a drug suspension, and really has no established track record of being a top guy. We tried to go the route of signing a career #3 WR and hoping for the best with Wilford. This front office won't make the same mistake again.
If Heyward-Bey runs in the low 4.3's, it certainly could vault him into the first round. Personally, I'm skeptical that we'll take a WR in the first round. Especially if guys like Britt, Nicks, Iglesias, Barden, or Robiskie can be had in rounds 2 or 3. My favorite is Britt. I think he has the polish and size to contribute significantly as a rookie, and can develop into a star down the road.
dolfanmark Wrote:
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> Personally,
> I'm skeptical that we'll take a WR in the first
> round. Especially if guys like Britt, Nicks,
> Iglesias, Barden, or Robiskie can be had in rounds
> 2 or 3.
That may be the answer afterall. I was all for us taking a WR in the first round, but at this point I'd be happy with a Chris Chambers-like guy. Chambers was a 2nd rounder.
HERMAN JOHNSON has been playing RT as well as G in the Senior Bowl. He is GIGANTIC. And remember SIZE MATTERS. His block was critical in the shortyardage touchdown run for the South.
Is it possible he's still on the board in the second round? I think NO
yeah i was watching something last year on him that said that he has the record for largest baby born in louisiana. He was born a 16 lbs baby!!! OMG how do you push that out. I dont think his senior year was as good as his junior year and he may have lost a bit of steam (actually LSU did worst this year so the way it works if your team does poorly then your stock falls). But if he does fall to the second I would love to take him with that 2a pick.
I wonder if mack in the first and H. Johnson in the second would be overkill... I tell you what their is no reason we should not be a strong run offense over the next 5 years if we can get those two guys.
Heck no thats NOT overkill. Having time to pass the ball and being able to run between the tackles is what wins the games. Ginn and everybody else would look much better if there was time for plays to develop.