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Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: Northeast Fin Fan ()
Date: March 08, 2013 03:59AM


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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: March 08, 2013 04:01AM

What? I can't access the link.

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: March 08, 2013 04:21AM

Nice.

Wasn't expecting this one at all.

Now lets trade him!!! spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: March 08, 2013 04:43AM

Wow. Who is this? Bill Parcels? smiling smiley

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 08, 2013 04:52AM

good---big question is, how much did we pay him?

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: Northeast Fin Fan ()
Date: March 08, 2013 04:58AM

I suspect he will be among the highest paid backup QBs in the league. He is certainly one of the best backup QBs in the league.

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: March 08, 2013 05:03AM

That's good news we don't have to draft a qb in this years draft.

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: March 08, 2013 05:14AM


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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: March 08, 2013 05:27AM


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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: March 08, 2013 05:32AM

2 years 8 million! That's almost as much as Tannehill.

Tannehill's contract....

Signing bonus: $7.653 million
2012 salary: $390,000 base
2013 salary: $480,000 base + $485,841 bonus if he is on the roster the 6th day of training camp
2014 salary: $570,000 base + $971,682 bonus if he is on the roster the 6th day of training camp
2015 salary: $660,000 base + $1.457 million bonus if he is on the roster the 6th day of training camp

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/08/2013 05:37AM by eesti.

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: March 08, 2013 05:48AM


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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: March 08, 2013 05:59AM

So, is Devlin gone, then?

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 08, 2013 06:00AM

4mm per year, that is A LOT for a backup QB.
Seems we are blowing a lot of our cap wad already

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: March 08, 2013 06:01AM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> 4mm per year, that is A LOT for a backup QB.
> Seems we are blowing a lot of our cap wad already

Maybe this will be a sign-and-trade deal?

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 08, 2013 06:07AM

this ain't the nba

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: March 08, 2013 06:10AM

His last deal was 2.5 a year, 4 isn't horrible.. When we needed him last year, he lit up the Jets and played at a high level... When Henne got hurt he played at high level as well. He was going to get more then that elsewhere... Fair deal IMO

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: March 08, 2013 06:11AM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> this ain't the nba

Yeah, I'm reminded of that whenever I watch the Heat...then think about our Phins. spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: March 08, 2013 06:15AM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> 4mm per year, that is A LOT for a backup QB.
> Seems we are blowing a lot of our cap wad already


Not really. It's a pretty small raise over what we paid him last year. We signed Garrard for $3M. Kyle Orton and Jason Campbell got $3.5M. Chad Henne got $3.4M. Any team signing Moore to come in and compete for the starting job would have to have paid him at least $4M. I'd much rather have Moore at $4M as the backup than to be pursuing Jason Campbell for $3M to come in.

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: March 08, 2013 06:27AM

It comes down to how much is guaranteed.

Could be he's a $2mill cap hit this year and 6mill next year.

If that's the case, he'll get cut or traded after next season.

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: March 08, 2013 07:37AM

Another way to think of this. For less than $7M, the Fins have 3 QBs on the roster. I am happy with that.

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: March 08, 2013 07:58AM

Joe Flacco will make 36.1 mil over the next 3 years. His cap hit in 2016 in 28 mil.

No one will be complaining when we are in the playoff race and Moore has to step in for a week or two.

Seattle's cap hit for their backup QB in 2014 will be 7.25 mil.

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: March 08, 2013 08:00AM

So much money for a scrub.

thanks ireland. you are at it again.....Now lets blow the rest of the cap in ex OLINEMEN from dallas.

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 08, 2013 08:52AM

montequi Wrote:
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> So, is Devlin gone, then?


This is the Key question. All last year when we were clearly out of everything but a higher draft choice, we should have been giving playing time to Devlin to see if he could be a replacement for Matt Moore.

Moore was injured. So now we sign a person coming off of injury and there may be some hidden "Russell Wilsons" in the draft but we don't know how durable Moore is or how good Devlin is or whether we should use a draft pick to bring in an intriguing prospect for back QB.

This is why I'm always on their back (Ireland that is).

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 08, 2013 08:54AM

don't know why devlin would be gone. we kept him around as a #3 with RT and MM and nothing has changed

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: March 08, 2013 08:59AM

Ireland doesn't control who gets playing time and I think everyone involved thought it was more important to get Tannehill the reps.

Moore was injured? How did that happen?

The coaches liked Devlin but that doesn't mean he was ready to take the field. He is a developmental player. I see no reason to take another one. If they want to try to improve the competition for him they can bring in a guy from someone else's D-squad or sign an undrafted guy.

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 08, 2013 09:59AM

Wasn't Moore injured early in the year? Or was that the prior year? But even if he was on the bench, still all the more reason, since although his contract was coming up, we knew what he could do, to find out about what Devlin can do.

On Ireland, don't YA think that if you were Ireland, you'd go to Philbin and say,

"Hey Joe. There's always a next April and there's always an end to this season and there's always a next year. In order for me to do my job, I've got to know what to do with the QB situation next year as Matt Moore is in his contract year. Maybe, you ought to find out what this Devlin kid can do."

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 08, 2013 10:09AM

Moore wasn't injured. Not sure what you are suggesting. That Devlin be elevated to 2d string last year and MM made 3d string? Or that Devlin be made 2d string this year? What would that accomplish? The only way the #2 will play is if RT goes down, in which case the better backup player should be taking over. If you want to boost Devlin's trade value the way to do that is in the preseason (which is how guys like Hasselbeck and Flynn got noticed).

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: March 08, 2013 10:40AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> montequi Wrote:
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> > So, is Devlin gone, then?
>
>
> This is the Key question. All last year when we
> were clearly out of everything but a higher draft
> choice, we should have been giving playing time to
> Devlin to see if he could be a replacement for
> Matt Moore.
>

So, we should have taken playing time and experience away from Ryan Tannehill in order to see if Pat Devlin is ready to be a backup?

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: March 08, 2013 11:04AM

dolfanmark Wrote:
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> ChyrenB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > montequi Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
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> > -----
> > > So, is Devlin gone, then?
> >
> >
> > This is the Key question. All last year when
> we
> > were clearly out of everything but a higher
> draft
> > choice, we should have been giving playing time
> to
> > Devlin to see if he could be a replacement for
> > Matt Moore.
> >
>
> So, we should have taken playing time and
> experience away from Ryan Tannehill in order to
> see if Pat Devlin is ready to be a backup?


It makes perfect sense D-mark...........that is if you smoked alot of skunk weed in West Lafeyette back in the 60's............

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Re: Matt Moore staying put
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: March 08, 2013 11:05AM

Moore is worth the money, how many backups can come into a game after injury with next to zero snaps in practice most of that year and win a division game on the road... Yep, that is worth a lot in my book.. If we can't dedicate 4 million of a 126million or so cap towards that insurance, we aren't going to deal with the unknown very well.. Moore is also good support for RT as he was last season... It was a strong move by Ireland IMO...

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