I agree with everything you say, and it really gets my back up that he isn't given credit nowadays for the things he could do. Later in his career, he didn't have those great backs and so he had to throw much more often. I can remember many games that he threw multiple TD's, four in one game. His scrambling was excellent, his run fakes were excellent, he was a deadly accurate passer, and he did something no QB of today does..he called his own plays. He was so good at that skill that the winningest coach in pro football history, Don Shula, relied on him to do that. Besides all of that, he was a winner who used the resources available to him brilliantly.

When he was inducted into the HOF, the voters at that time had all seen him play, and there was apparently no question in their minds he belonged. In pro football, sometimes hindsight gets a bit foggy.

Rick

Not cool. Bob was PERFECT once.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

No he wasnt perfect. The dolphins had a perfect record....Im sure he threw a few ints here and there.


Nobody is perfect.

dolphan4545 Wrote:
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> I agree with everything you say, and it really
> gets my back up that he isn't given credit
> nowadays for the things he could do. Later in his
> career, he didn't have those great backs and so he
> had to throw much more often. I can remember many
> games that he threw multiple TD's, four in one
> game. His scrambling was excellent, his run fakes
> were excellent, he was a deadly accurate passer,
> and he did something no QB of today does..he
> called his own plays. He was so good at that skill
> that the winningest coach in pro football history,
> Don Shula, relied on him to do that. Besides all
> of that, he was a winner who used the resources
> available to him brilliantly.
>
> When he was inducted into the HOF, the voters at
> that time had all seen him play, and there was
> apparently no question in their minds he belonged.
> In pro football, sometimes hindsight gets a bit
> foggy.

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yes, Griese did throw multiple TDs. A perfect example was in a game vs St Louis where he threw for six TDs and should have had seven, but TE Lee couldn't bring it in. I don't think Bob even played all of the fourth quarter.

Bob's strength, however, was his mind.

Unitas even said Griese was a better QB than Namath.

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> Not cool. Bob was PERFECT once.


He was on a perfect team, but was injured for a majority of the season.

Despite the over-emphasis on statistics, most people don't realize that Griese called his own plays.

Yeah, that perfect season was capped off by Shula making the most difficult decision in coaching history. Griese had gotten injured early in the season and was out until the Super Bowl. There were many fans, including me, who were saying that since Earl Morrall had taken the team to the SuperBowl, Earl should be the quarterback in that game instead of bringing Griese back.

Shula gave Griese the nod nonetheless and of course he capped off that perfect season with a SB win.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Yeah, that perfect season was capped off by Shula
> making the most difficult decision in coaching
> history. Griese had gotten injured early in the
> season and was out until the Super Bowl. There
> were many fans, including me, who were saying that
> since Earl Morrall had taken the team to the
> SuperBowl, Earl should be the quarterback in that
> game instead of bringing Griese back.
>
> Shula gave Griese the nod nonetheless and of
> course he capped off that perfect season with a SB
> win.

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You have the right idea, Chryen, but not exact.

It was the playoff game vs Pitt where at halftime, Shula asked Griese if he was ready, and of course the reply was yes. He led the second half Miami surge, then started the Super Bowl.

Well, memory fades after so many years but the controversy was probably that many fans including me, felt that it's one thing to put him in in the third quarter of even the Championsip game against the Steelers but another to have him start the SuperBowl. I just remember many people, myself included, not thinking it was a good idea to have him as the QB in the SuperBowl. If it ain't broke, don't fix it was the argument.

Meaning even given the fact that Griese had come in in the third quarter of the AFC champ game, some, including me, were still not convinced that we had the ole Griese back fully and wanted to stay with the guy who had taken us to an undefeated season so far, Cap.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Meaning even given the fact that Griese had come
> in in the third quarter of the AFC champ game,
> some, including me, were still not convinced that
> we had the ole Griese back fully and wanted to
> stay with the guy who had taken us to an
> undefeated season so far, Cap.

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Understood, Chryen, but the reason Shula put Griese back in was because Morrall was having trouble moving the Miami offense. Griese came in and provided the spark.

Yeah but to me if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

ChyrenB, it may not have "broke" yet, but was on the way..there were multiple cracks developing. The engine was starting to misfire, and Shula saw it happening and his bringing in Greise smoothed everything out and got the offense running on all cylinders again.
(sorry for the automotive simile)

Rick

Well, there's always two ways of looking at anything.

Great clip. I had completely forgotten it.