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This is a moderated phorum for the CIVILIZED discussion of the Miami Dolphins. In this phorum, there are rules and moderators to make sure you abide by the rules. The moderators for this phorum are JC and Colonel.
Blaine Gabbert has potential...unfortunately he's playing for the JAGS who are currently the "bottom feeder" of the NFL. Give him some time. He can only get better.
I wasn't trying to spin anything, I posted the links to both articles for full context.. JC does not like when we post paragraphs from articles, being you we're once a moderator here I imagine you know this but spin it anyways to mean I was hiding context. Brandt and Mayock both were gushing over Gabbert as a prospect pre draft, both suggested or flat out said he has a right to be #1 overall after watching all of their games and both pro days. Do you think he should have been the first Qb off the board? Do you think the 49ers, Bengals, Vikings and panthers would trade their choice in 2011 for Gabbert?
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All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
Nietzsche
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/22/2012 07:04AM by Crowder52.
Crowder52 Wrote:
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> I wasn't trying to spin anything, I posted the
> links to both articles for full context..
If you say so. But the quote in your post reads very differently than what Brandt said in the article.
> JC does
> not like when we post paragraphs from articles,
> being you we're once a moderator here I imagine
> you know this but spin it anyways to mean I was
> hiding context.
As someone who volunteered their time as a moderator here, I know that you can post a paragraph or two from an article when you provide the link. JC has ZERO issues with that. What he has issues with, and what creates potential liability for curt is when posters cut and paste an entire article....often without even providing the link.
JC usually deletes those as soon as he sees them.
As a longtime poster here...I'd have figured you'd have caught onto that by now.
> Brandt and Mayock both were
> gushing over Gabbert as a prospect pre draft, both
> suggested or flat out said he has a right to be #1
> overall after watching all of their games and both
> pro days.
Mayock had him as the top QB. Brandt said BOTH he and Newton could go #1 depending on the system the team picking them used.
> Do you think he should have been the
> first Qb off the board? Do you think the 49ers,
> Bengals, Vikings and panthers would trade their
> choice in 2011 for Gabbert?
Nope...I didn't like Gabbert at all. A&O was they guy who loved him.
I think its pretty apparent I was a Mallet guy...presuming he passed the sniff test off the field...which he didn't. I remember saying he's they type of talent I'd take in the top 5 overall based on skills. But if the off the field stuff kept me from taking him in the first round I wouldn't draft him.
I also remember saying Newton grew on me more and more as I watched him and would be happy if we drafted him.
Well, Crowder, I don't know what the Truth is talking about. I read your post before I read the article. After reading the article, the bottom line was clear. That bottom line is at that particular point in history, although only one day, these experts were clearly in love with Gabbert and based on their analysis that day if they were to have had Carolina's pick, they would not have selected Cam Newton.
And I have edited this to make clear that I did those readings yesterday before I read THE Truth's posting that you were being misleading.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/22/2012 08:31AM by ChyrenB.
Chyren this is a typical Truth response when he doesn't like what you post but doesn't really have anyway to dispute it. So he changes the direction of the post to be about me misleading people.
The colonel made a legit dispute, maybe Gabbert never had a shot and Jax was his doom...
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All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
Nietzsche
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/22/2012 09:42AM by Crowder52.
Just curious JC, is it ok to post paragraphs from somebody else's blog or article as long as we post the link.. I could have sworn you don't like this and would rather us post a sentence or 2 that references the link, so as this site was not using others content for its own content? I could have sworn I have been reprimanded and post shortened for doing just that...
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All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
Nietzsche
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/22/2012 11:53AM by Crowder52.
I'm still trying to figure what the point of this post is now? I could see 4 or 5 months ago, but what's the point now, are you trying to prove a point about Tannehill by pointing out that these two were wrong last year? If so, how? Are you trying to prove that soo called experts are wrong once in a while? Wow shocking news!
Being wrong with what to do with the number 1 overall pick is a big deal.. It's not like missing on a mid third rounder... The post is about Brandt and Mayock, who people like to use their opinions as gospel.. If you guys want to make it about something more then that, that is on you.. I didn't say crap about it... I jus posted on how they had Gabbert ahead of 4 others guys that have succeeded while Gabbert so far has not.. I have heard people claim around here Brandt is never wrong and the best in the bizness.... Clearly he was wrong with regards to Gabbert so far who does not seem on equal par with Newton...
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All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
Nietzsche
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/23/2012 10:15AM by Crowder52.
Crowder you'd make a good receiver with all the toe tapping you do. Just come out a say you don't think Tannehill has what it takes so we can hopefully call you out on it at a later date. At least dolfanking had the jewels to draw the line in the sand.
Dolph- this post is not about Tannehill not matter how much some of you want to make it about him. It is about Mayock and Brandt's analysis of Blaine Gabbert...
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All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
Nietzsche
Yes I think after 2 seasons, it is fair to say Andy Dalton, Kapernick, Newton and Ponder seem far ahead of the guy they called the first off the board or deserving of first off the board... It is hard to say after only a couple games...
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All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
Nietzsche
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/23/2012 01:04PM by Crowder52.
Exactly. The entire point of this was to discredit Tannehill to back an old agenda. It's the first thing I thought of when I read it, knowing the author.