I hate to say it, but when you look at his stats reality is they aren't very good for such a high pick compared to other rookie QB's this year and last, especially compared to guys like Wilson, Dalton, drafted later. Not even as good as Ponder which isn't saying a lot. Foles has looked comparable


Maybe it is good to find out what we have, we don't have any real WR weapons so stats are somewhat misleading. I have seen some promising things, but nothing showing he is the real deal

We are the sixth lowest scoring team in the league


With Mooore I think we are 7-5 right now going possibly 9-7, but tanking it for a better pick helps more, if we make the right picks

jlyell13 Wrote:
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> I hate to say it, but when you look at his stats
> reality is they aren't very good for such a high
> pick compared to other rookie QB's this year and
> last, especially compared to guys like Wilson,
> Dalton, drafted later. Not even as good as Ponder
> which isn't saying a lot. Foles has looked
> comparable
>
>
> Maybe it is good to find out what we have, we
> don't have any real WR weapons so stats are
> somewhat misleading. I have seen some promising
> things, but nothing showing he is the real deal
>
> We are the sixth lowest scoring team in the
> league
>


Exactly. Nothing has really changed with Tannehill over the season. We may need to seriously consider drafting another QB.


>
> With Mooore I think we are 7-5 right now going
> possibly 9-7,

Yes.

> but tanking it for a better pick
> helps more, if we make the right picks


That trick never works. We have been tanking it for how many years now? This team has had high draft picks for the past 7 years and nothing has come of it.

We need to start with the GM. But since the owner is too spineless to fire this GM, we need to get a new owner.

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DolfanKing Wrote:
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>
> Exactly. Nothing has really changed with
> Tannehill over the season. We may need to
> seriously consider drafting another QB.
>

RESPONSE: Finally, you've unleashed the NUCLEAR BOMB!

Not sure next year we will be looking for a QB but we could be in a few, but have to get some weapons to know where we are. Slow WR or fast WR projects (Ginn & Gates) don't cut it in the NFL

As far as the pick history, some teams turn it around but as mentioned our track record since marino left is pretty bad. Hoping Ireland & Philbin didn't get sold a bill of goods from Sherman, after a year and a half of college experience. Has there ever been a successful pro QB with this few college game experience?

This is basically RT's junior year...only instead of playing Big 12 defenses, he's playing NFL defenses on a team that's rebuilding.

Out of 11 starters, we have about exactly 1 player that is consistently good. Mike Pouncey. You know, the guy some of you also said was a reach...and that would never reach the level of his brother. It's just another knee jerk reaction by people who think they know more than NFL coaches.

EVERY other guy on that offense is good to great one week...and then disappears for the next 3 weeks.

And you expect Tannehill to be consistent?

You don't think Andrew Luck is helped a bit by his 5 time pro bowl WR? His team as a whole?

You don't think Russell Wilson is helped by his #4 ranked defense and #7 ranked running game?

The point is...the teams that are doing well are doing well as a team.

Juat ask RG3. He is probably the most talented rookie to ever play the game....and his TEAM has won exactly ONE more game than Miami.

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samsam3738 Wrote:
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> eesti Wrote:
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> > This is basically RT's junior year...only
> instead
> > of playing Big 12 defenses, he's playing NFL
> > defenses on a team that's rebuilding.
>
>
> By that logic id say he is doing very good. No
> running game and no receivers. He is doing better
> than we thought he would.
>

Wow you have some short memories.

This was my exact argument as to why we shouldn't use a top ten pick on this guy. You two flamed me for that.

Glad to see you are finally seeing things my way.

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Only in your warped and exaggerated imagination. You are the only one that said he isn't worth a top 10 pick.

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jlyell13 Wrote:
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> I hate to say it, but when you look at his stats
> reality is they aren't very good

You're right. His stats are horrible. His QB rating ranks him at 31st in the league. We went from having the 12th ranked QB in the league last year to the 31st this year all for the sake of building for the future.

eesti Wrote:
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> Only in your warped and exaggerated imagination.
> You are the only one that said he isn't worth a
> top 10 pick.


Hardly true. Before the Dolphins made it clear they would draft Tannehill, most mock drafts had him going in the second.

As soon as all the draft pundits realized the Dolphins were picking him, they adjusted their mock drafts to represent this.

Last January, nobody had Tannehill going in the first round. Nobody.

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I think we were lucky to be in the position to get him at 8. He would have been gone by 12. Tanny is our future. I hope we can take advantage of the picks we have early in the draft as well as a few Gems later on.

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> I think we were lucky to be in the position to get
> him at 8. He would have been gone by 12. Tanny is
> our future. I hope we can take advantage of the
> picks we have early in the draft as well as a few
> Gems later on.

I think he was only taken at #8 because of his familiarity with Sherman and his offense. I believe his overall inexperience would have had him further down the board placed just above Weeden had it not been for Sherman coming to Miami. I like his moxie but he definitely has a way to go - I cringe whenever RT throws a pass.

I'm pretty disappointed though that Ireland left him out in the cold and fed him to the wolves without improving the receiver corps to help him out some. Look at Washington for example - although they sold the farm to get RGIII, they still went and got Pierre Garcon. Seems like every other team out there whose starting their rookie QB as of late has done a better job than Miami of getting people for their QB to throw the ball to.

My personal opinion is that Ireland should be held fully accountable and fired if this team doesn't improve as a whole within two years from now.

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> I think we were lucky to be in the position to get
> him at 8. He would have been gone by 12. Tanny is
> our future. I hope we can take advantage of the
> picks we have early in the draft as well as a few
> Gems later on.

Definetely agree with this.

I'd be happy if he turns out another Joe Flacco.

2 words. JAY FEILDER. he had the stats to win him the starting job and an exention. Big fing whoop those stats did us huh?

I see a kid with heart desire and tenacity. Smart as heck. He has the Intangibiles that you can't teach. Missing on heartline when he was wide open is stuff that's fixable. Reading defenses better, all that stuff you just can't learn without getting in there and taking your lumps.

We had one of the all time best pure passers the league will ever see in #13 Dan Marino. All those records and stats equated to Nantz. Doughnuts. No Championships.

Tanny has what it takes. Stop looking into all of the negatives and see what else he has acomplished this season. And its not over yet.

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> 2 words. JAY FEILDER. he had the stats to win
> him the starting job and an exention. Big fing
> whoop those stats did us huh?
>


That is rich. Jay Fiedler?!? Stat?!? In his best year, he barely broke 200ypg and only once got 20TDs. Would I rather have Fiedler in his prime than Tannehill right now? Yes. But does that make Jay Fiedler a good QB to anyone other than Dave Wanny? No.

Jay Fiedler having good stats is a laugher. The exhibition of your football knowledge is going in reverse.

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TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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>
>
> Your such an ignorant douchbag.

And yet you go on below to prove your ignorance. Irony is a bitch.


> Your the one that
> cries stats stats stats.
>

You are the one that brought up Fiedler's stats. You are the one saying Fiedler's stats are good. Don't know what planet you are on here.



> Fiedler's stint with the Miami Dolphins featured
> three 10+ win seasons in four years, two 11–5
> seasons in 2000 and 2001, an AFC East title, and
> two postseason appearances including a victory for
> the Miami Dolphins. During these years, the
> Dolphins' offense lagged notably behind its
> defense, which featured perennial Pro-Bowlers in
> linebacker Zach Thomas, defensive end Jason
> Taylor, and cornerbacks Sam Madison and Patrick
> Surtain.
>

Do you even know what a stat is?

You listed a couple season records and names. But sorry, I don't see a single passing statistic listed.


> My point is that Going by those numbers you would
> think Feidler was a damn good Qback instead of the
> poster child for medicore. Numbers are and stats
> are not everything. You know that but you are
> hanging on to anything negative to make your
> pathetic points.

First of all, you haven't listed any statistics that make me think anything about Fiedler.

But if I look up his stats, I find Fiedler was pretty damned mediocre.

So, all and all, I have no clue what you are talking about. I suppose you are just looking for a reason to bitch and call someone a douche?

Yea, you are the smart one.

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Scary henne has more TD's in fewer games! Yikes!

The Jacksonville game should be interesting

colonel Wrote:
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> The point is...the teams that are doing well are
> doing well as a team.
>
> Excellent--right on target! Bullseye.
>
> Performing well as a unit...a team. That's were
> football success comes from.


times two.

Times Three.........

Ryan is a great driver , but he can't win a race in a 2 door hatchback. When given the Tools he will excell.

And, of course, BUT FOR that fortuitous injury of De Berg, who knows what Elway's career would have been but the lesson for me is, "Give the rookie a chance."

Gasp. Some folks on tyhis board, although not saying it directly, think that RT is worse than Ryan Leaf.

RT is still a rookie, guys, and I do have eyes; I can see what the other rookie QBs have been doing. Different teams, different situations. And has been said, ad nauseum, RT didn't have that much experience as a college QB. He's basically learning on the job, and IMO, doing pretty well.

Yeah,he does have a long way to go, but give him some top-notch weapons and an OL that is consistent, then grade him.

That's why I am saying give him next year and see how he does.

He has shown the skills and intangibles of an NFL QB.

Let's draft some players next year that can help him, along with a few key defenders.

captkoi Wrote:
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> Gasp. Some folks on tyhis board, although not
> saying it directly, think that RT is worse than
> Ryan Leaf.
>
> RT is still a rookie, guys, and I do have eyes; I
> can see what the other rookie QBs have been doing.
> Different teams, different situations. And has
> been said, ad nauseum, RT didn't have that much
> experience as a college QB. He's basically
> learning on the job, and IMO, doing pretty well.
>
> Yeah,he does have a long way to go, but give him
> some top-notch weapons and an OL that is
> consistent, then grade him.
>
> That's why I am saying give him next year and see
> how he does.
>
> He has shown the skills and intangibles of an NFL
> QB.
>
> Let's draft some players next year that can help
> him, along with a few key defenders.




Ditto. Great first year for the Kid.

I fail to see how being in the first year makes him miss on wide open receivers.

he has not improved any during the year.

I would say his weapons have all been consistant this year, but Tannehill has not been.

It looks like he thinks ok ill throw 3 passes to Bess then 3 to hartline, then .... how about reading the defense????

Let's keep things on the bright side shall we.
Tanny's development is so far ahead of the curve that he hit his "sophomore slump" a full year ahead of time.

Consistent weapons?

What weapons?

He has no talent around him to help him out.

Hooligan2 Wrote:
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> Let's keep things on the bright side shall we.
> Tanny's development is so far ahead of the curve
> that he hit his "sophomore slump" a full year
> ahead of time.

LOL...yeah. what he said.

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