1 Tennessee Titans 2 13 0.487
2 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2 13 0.491
3 Jacksonville Jaguars 3 12 0.513
4 New York Jets 3 12 0.551
5 Oakland Raiders 3 12 0.560
6 Washington Redskins 4 11 0.476
7 Chicago Bears 5 10 0.531
8 Atlanta Falcons 6 9 0.484
9 Minnesota Vikings 6 9 0.491
10 New York Giants 6 9 0.507
11 New Orleans Saints 6 9 0.509
12 St. Louis Rams 6 9 0.516
13 Carolina Panthers 6 8 1 0.496
14 Cleveland Browns 7 8 0.464
15 San Francisco 49ers 7 8 0.520
16 Houston Texans 8 7 0.464
17 Cleveland Browns (BUF) 8 7 0.502
18 Kansas City Chiefs 8 7 0.511
19 Miami Dolphins 8 7 0.529
20 Baltimore Ravens 9 6 0.482
21 Philadelphia Eagles 9 6 0.496
22 San Diego Chargers 9 6 0.507
23 Pittsburgh Steelers 10 5 0.431
24 Indianapolis Colts 10 5 0.504
25 Cincinnati Bengals 10 4 1 0.482
26 Detroit Lions 11 4 0.451
27 Dallas Cowboys 11 4 0.458
28 Green Bay Packers 11 4 0.464
29 Arizona Cardinals 11 4 0.529
30 Seattle Seahawks 11 4 0.536
31 Denver Broncos 11 4 0.549
32 New England Patriots 12 3 0.509

This has us picking lower than others. Not sure what is going on.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/28/2014 06:59PM by JoeFootball.

If Cleveland owns Buffalo's pick. That could be lower than ours if we lose and they win. If both teams have the same record, we have a better division and conference record so we pick later.

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> 1 Tennessee Titans 2 13 0.487
> 2 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2 13 0.491
> 3 Jacksonville Jaguars 3 12 0.513
> 4 New York Jets 3 12 0.551
> 5 Oakland Raiders 3 12 0.560
> 6 Washington Redskins 4 11 0.476
> 7 Chicago Bears 5 10 0.531
> 8 Atlanta Falcons 6 9 0.484
> 9 Minnesota Vikings 6 9 0.491
> 10 New York Giants 6 9 0.507
> 11 New Orleans Saints 6 9 0.509
> 12 St. Louis Rams 6 9 0.516
> 13 Carolina Panthers 6 8 1 0.496
> 14 Cleveland Browns 7 8 0.464
> 15 San Francisco 49ers 7 8 0.520
> 16 Houston Texans 8 7 0.464
> 17 Cleveland Browns (BUF) 8 7 0.502
> 18 Kansas City Chiefs 8 7 0.511
> 19 Miami Dolphins 8 7 0.529
> 20 Baltimore Ravens 9 6 0.482
> 21 Philadelphia Eagles 9 6 0.496
> 22 San Diego Chargers 9 6 0.507
> 23 Pittsburgh Steelers 10 5 0.431
> 24 Indianapolis Colts 10 5 0.504
> 25 Cincinnati Bengals 10 4 1 0.482
> 26 Detroit Lions 11 4 0.451
> 27 Dallas Cowboys 11 4 0.458
> 28 Green Bay Packers 11 4 0.464
> 29 Arizona Cardinals 11 4 0.529
> 30 Seattle Seahawks 11 4 0.536
> 31 Denver Broncos 11 4 0.549
> 32 New England Patriots 12 3 0.509
>
> This has us picking lower than others. Not sure
> what is going on.



We are in the right slot if that winning % is correct.

It will change when we play the Jets, but if the draft were today we'd be the last of the 8-7 teams.

That's SOS. Not win %

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> That's SOS. Not win %


You are quite correct. That's what I meant.

We once had a raging debate over what the tie breakers were for playoff spots, and how they differed from establishing the draft order.

One poster had a particularly hard time reconciling the use of SOS for breaking ties on winning % for the draft order.

Fun times...

Sucks that a division winner (NFC South) earns a playoff spot and still picks before we do.

808phan Wrote:
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> Sucks that a division winner (NFC South) earns a
> playoff spot and still picks before we do.

They won't.

They'll end up with the earliest pick in whatever round they get eliminated.

If they get eliminated in the wild card week they'll pick 21st. If the get eliminated in the Division week it would be 25th, and so on.

Whoever put this list together probably had an oversight or they just put together a list of all the teams based on winning% and SOS.

Move the Atlanta/Carolina winner into the 21st spot and slide everyone before that up a spot.

Looks like the best we can do right now is 14 IF SF beats the Cardinals. As of now we are 15th.

The good news is Buffalo gave up pick 19 for Sammy. Jets move to 6th.

Where do the QB's land?

1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2-14)

2. Tennessee Titans (2-14)

3. Jacksonville Jaguars (3-13)

4. Oakland Raiders (3-13)

5. Washington Redskins (4-12)

6. New York Jets (4-12)

7. Chicago Bears (5-11)

8. Atlanta Falcons (6-10)

9. New York Giants (6-10)

10. St. Louis Rams (6-10)

11. Minnesota Vikings (7-9)

12. Cleveland Browns (7-9)

13. New Orleans Saints (7-9)

14. Miami Dolphins (8-8)

15. San Francisco 49ers (8-8)

16. Houston Texans (9-7)

17. Kansas City Chiefs (9-7)

18. San Diego Chargers (9-7)

19. Buffalo Bills (9-7) -- pick is owed to Cleveland

20. Philadelphia Eagles (10-6)

You guys don't like read option quarterbacks. But just having seen him play, if he comes out, what you guys want in a traditional pocket QB is Cody Kessler.

From stellar 2014 season we get "14th" pick. Okay. Do we select the best player available in the draft that's left or pick a needed position to fill?

Ah, yes...the speculation begins.

I sure hope, but realize it's probably unlikely, that Philbin will be relieved of his duties and that Ross will change his mind and hire a better coach. Coyle should go back to doing something else too. (Dream on--I know.)

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Where do the QB's land?
>
> 1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2-14)
>
> 2. Tennessee Titans (2-14)
>
> 3. Jacksonville Jaguars (3-13)
>
> 4. Oakland Raiders (3-13)
>
> 5. Washington Redskins (4-12)
>
> 6. New York Jets (4-12)
>
> 7. Chicago Bears (5-11)
>
> 8. Atlanta Falcons (6-10)
>
> 9. New York Giants (6-10)
>
> 10. St. Louis Rams (6-10)
>
> 11. Minnesota Vikings (7-9)
>
> 12. Cleveland Browns (7-9)
>
> 13. New Orleans Saints (7-9)
>
> 14. Miami Dolphins (8-8)
>
> 15. San Francisco 49ers (8-8)
>
> 16. Houston Texans (9-7)
>
> 17. Kansas City Chiefs (9-7)
>
> 18. San Diego Chargers (9-7)
>
> 19. Buffalo Bills (9-7) -- pick is owed to
> Cleveland
>
> 20. Philadelphia Eagles (10-6)


After Marriota to Tampa, the earlest J. Winston goes is #6 to the Jets unless someone trades to get him. If the Jets and Bears pass, he could slide all the way to the Texans at #16

It would serve him right. I would think that teams would be very hesitant to sign head case players with the new guidelines for discipline in the NFL.

Teams that SHOULD draft a first round QB.....

1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2-14)

2. Tennessee Titans (2-14)

5. Washington Redskins (4-12)

6. New York Jets (4-12)

7. Chicago Bears (5-11)

10. St. Louis Rams (6-10)

12. Cleveland Browns (7-9)

16. Houston Texans (9-7)

19. Buffalo Bills (9-7) -- pick is owed to Cleveland. Too bad!

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> JoeFootball Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Where do the QB's land?
> >
> > 1. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2-14)
> >
> > 2. Tennessee Titans (2-14)
> >
> > 3. Jacksonville Jaguars (3-13)
> >
> > 4. Oakland Raiders (3-13)
> >
> > 5. Washington Redskins (4-12)
> >
> > 6. New York Jets (4-12)
> >
> > 7. Chicago Bears (5-11)
> >
> > 8. Atlanta Falcons (6-10)
> >
> > 9. New York Giants (6-10)
> >
> > 10. St. Louis Rams (6-10)
> >
> > 11. Minnesota Vikings (7-9)
> >
> > 12. Cleveland Browns (7-9)
> >
> > 13. New Orleans Saints (7-9)
> >
> > 14. Miami Dolphins (8-8)
> >
> > 15. San Francisco 49ers (8-8)
> >
> > 16. Houston Texans (9-7)
> >
> > 17. Kansas City Chiefs (9-7)
> >
> > 18. San Diego Chargers (9-7)
> >
> > 19. Buffalo Bills (9-7) -- pick is owed to
> > Cleveland
> >
> > 20. Philadelphia Eagles (10-6)
>
>
> After Marriota to Tampa, the earlest J. Winston
> goes is #6 to the Jets unless someone trades to
> get him. If the Jets and Bears pass, he could
> slide all the way to the Texans at #16


Its going to depend on his interviews.

He could still go #1 if he nails that and it wouldn't surprise me if he did.

Winston is a pocket passer and a big kid. He's what teams want at QB physically.

It will be interesting to see how it shakes out but Tenn can't be thrilled with Locker or Mettenberg at this point.

colonel Wrote:
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> From stellar 2014 season we get "14th" pick. Okay.
> Do we select the best player available in the
> draft that's left or pick a needed position to
> fill?
>
> Ah, yes...the speculation begins.
>
> I sure hope, but realize it's probably unlikely,
> that Philbin will be relieved of his duties and
> that Ross will change his mind and hire a better
> coach. Coyle should go back to doing something
> else too. (Dream on--I know.)

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I'll tell ya, Colonel, with as many holes Miami needs to fill, just get the best player available and that player will fill a position of need.